Been a rogue "main" for a while and I have been playing tempo rogue since the expansion, but I feel it under performs. Is aggro rogue really the best deck rogue has right now? Just looking for something fun that I can climb with.
I think aggro (tempo) is probably the best, but quest is fun. Secret Rogue can be fun.
If you just want fun, deathrattle Rogue is fun. Eggs, Akama, Lilian, and whatever other deathrattles you want. Add Vectus and Teron Gorefiend. Put in 1-2 of those spells that gives you 1/1 copies of all your minions.
You can combo that with the stealth package or the secret package. You can make it fast, or you can try to go for bigger deathrattles like the dragon and use the apothecary.
There are three available decks - secret, stealth weapon, and quest. First two are good, I don't have the quest to testify on it, but it's a miracle rogue, which is a fun deck.
Right? Starting to feel that way. Thinking about hanging up this random ass game. Can't seem to climb with any rogue deck. Whenever I play I feel like I'm playing with a handicap.
Right? Starting to feel that way. Thinking about hanging up this random ass game. Can't seem to climb with any rogue deck. Whenever I play I feel like I'm playing with a handicap.
Druid can play the most powerful 7 manas card in the game history in turn 3 and is fine, not a single nerf in that BS.
Hunter can have insanely OP undercosted minions with hero power sinergy, even better with the 1 mana minion making the hero power 0 mana, 1 mana 1/3 minion can free kill a 2 health minion in turn 1 or 2, a 2 manas 2/3 beast tag can draw and play for free a secret getting insane value and tempo and a 4 manas 3/5 free 5 damage, all of them with permanent effects if not removed and is fine, not a single nerf in that BS.
Rogue? Every time a single deck of rogue manage to reach the Tier 2 spot is nerfed to oblivion:
Highlander? Nerf Alex.
Galakrond? Nerf Galakrond.
Hyper aggro? Nerf the card draw.
Rogue not allow to have a single competitive deck even when other classes have way more broken cards untouched.
Why they hate rogue so badly is something beyond my understanding.
Right? Starting to feel that way. Thinking about hanging up this random ass game. Can't seem to climb with any rogue deck. Whenever I play I feel like I'm playing with a handicap.
Druid can play the most powerful 7 manas card in the game history in turn 3 and is fine, not a single nerf in that BS.
Hunter can have insanely OP undercosted minions with hero power sinergy, even better with the 1 mana minion making the hero power 0 mana, 1 mana 1/3 minion can free kill a 2 health minion in turn 1 or 2, a 2 manas 2/3 beast tag can draw and play for free a secret getting insane value and tempo and a 4 manas 3/5 free 5 damage, all of them with permanent effects if not removed and is fine, not a single nerf in that BS.
Rogue? Every time a single deck of rogue manage to reach the Tier 2 spot is nerfed to oblivion:
Highlander? Nerf Alex.
Galakrond? Nerf Galakrond.
Hyper aggro? Nerf the card draw.
Rogue not allow to have a single competitive deck even when other classes have way more broken cards untouched.
Why they hate rogue so badly is something beyond my understanding.
What you mention is true, but with a big difference. All these decks have their counters, decks from which they lose almost hands down.
Spell Mage and Priest counter Druid easily -and let's not forget Animals Druid is one of the most inconsistent decks out there atm- Just look at what happened at the GM yesterday. Bomb Warrior feasts on Hunters and so on.
Meta is in on of the healthiest states its has ever been, with 8/10 decks being played on ladder. Personally the last time I saw this was when Witchwood launched and before the nerfs started.
Whenever rogue reaches tier 1 with a deck though, it is unstopppable. Pre-nerf Gala could draw 0 mana Edwin, Togwaggle, etc. And don't even get me started on pre-nerf quest rogue. That thing was an insta-concede for the opponent during its reign.
What I'm trying to say is that every deck has its turn to shine, you can't have all 10 decks at the same power level at the same time. Rogue is surely not as powerful as it was, but it's still tier 1-2. A lot of high legend streamers still play rogue and the class will continue to have its place in the meta at least until the next expansion.
Rogue is dead, the class can't keeping up after a non stop wave of endless nerfs after nerfs after nerfs.
This is just not true. I’ve been playing a fair amount of weapon rogue this season, and it is still strong. In 81 games this season I’ve maintained a 63% winrate (1500 legend EU).
Highest Winrates are against priest(80), Druid(75) and Paladin(75), which there are a lot of :)
Rogue is dead, the class can't keeping up after a non stop wave of endless nerfs after nerfs after nerfs.
This is just not true. I’ve been playing a fair amount of weapon rogue this season, and it is still strong. In 81 games this season I’ve maintained a 63% winrate (1500 legend EU).
Highest Winrates are against priest(80), Druid(75) and Paladin(75), which there are a lot of :)
Shhhhhh, silence about it, if the devs notice still have a playable rogue deck they will nerf it to oblivion... :P
I think secret rogue is probably one if not the best rogue archetype at the moment. It's not too polarized and offers varied games, tho it is a bit harder to pilot effectively than weapon rogue or aggro. I was playing this list last week in top 1K with around 60%+ in 30 or so games.
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Been a rogue "main" for a while and I have been playing tempo rogue since the expansion, but I feel it under performs. Is aggro rogue really the best deck rogue has right now? Just looking for something fun that I can climb with.
Hi my dood.
Quest rogue is mine This is fun this can win games you may lose games.
I think aggro (tempo) is probably the best, but quest is fun. Secret Rogue can be fun.
If you just want fun, deathrattle Rogue is fun. Eggs, Akama, Lilian, and whatever other deathrattles you want. Add Vectus and Teron Gorefiend. Put in 1-2 of those spells that gives you 1/1 copies of all your minions.
You can combo that with the stealth package or the secret package. You can make it fast, or you can try to go for bigger deathrattles like the dragon and use the apothecary.
Thanks for the replies. So, is aggro even that strong in the meta? Seems like rogue is pretty much dead unless you're playing an aggro type deck.
Hi my dood.
There are three available decks - secret, stealth weapon, and quest. First two are good, I don't have the quest to testify on it, but it's a miracle rogue, which is a fun deck.
Rogue is dead, the class can't keeping up after a non stop wave of endless nerfs after nerfs after nerfs.
Right? Starting to feel that way. Thinking about hanging up this random ass game. Can't seem to climb with any rogue deck. Whenever I play I feel like I'm playing with a handicap.
Hi my dood.
Druid can play the most powerful 7 manas card in the game history in turn 3 and is fine, not a single nerf in that BS.
Hunter can have insanely OP undercosted minions with hero power sinergy, even better with the 1 mana minion making the hero power 0 mana, 1 mana 1/3 minion can free kill a 2 health minion in turn 1 or 2, a 2 manas 2/3 beast tag can draw and play for free a secret getting insane value and tempo and a 4 manas 3/5 free 5 damage, all of them with permanent effects if not removed and is fine, not a single nerf in that BS.
Rogue? Every time a single deck of rogue manage to reach the Tier 2 spot is nerfed to oblivion:
Highlander? Nerf Alex.
Galakrond? Nerf Galakrond.
Hyper aggro? Nerf the card draw.
Rogue not allow to have a single competitive deck even when other classes have way more broken cards untouched.
Why they hate rogue so badly is something beyond my understanding.
Yes, I also went from Tempo, to Aggro and then to Miracle.
Now I'm playing Kingsbane Rogue, really good.
Ugh that's wild man.
Hi my dood.
Wild eww 😷
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What you mention is true, but with a big difference. All these decks have their counters, decks from which they lose almost hands down.
Spell Mage and Priest counter Druid easily -and let's not forget Animals Druid is one of the most inconsistent decks out there atm- Just look at what happened at the GM yesterday. Bomb Warrior feasts on Hunters and so on.
Meta is in on of the healthiest states its has ever been, with 8/10 decks being played on ladder. Personally the last time I saw this was when Witchwood launched and before the nerfs started.
Whenever rogue reaches tier 1 with a deck though, it is unstopppable. Pre-nerf Gala could draw 0 mana Edwin, Togwaggle, etc. And don't even get me started on pre-nerf quest rogue. That thing was an insta-concede for the opponent during its reign.
What I'm trying to say is that every deck has its turn to shine, you can't have all 10 decks at the same power level at the same time. Rogue is surely not as powerful as it was, but it's still tier 1-2. A lot of high legend streamers still play rogue and the class will continue to have its place in the meta at least until the next expansion.
This is just not true. I’ve been playing a fair amount of weapon rogue this season, and it is still strong. In 81 games this season I’ve maintained a 63% winrate (1500 legend EU).
Highest Winrates are against priest(80), Druid(75) and Paladin(75), which there are a lot of :)
Shhhhhh, silence about it, if the devs notice still have a playable rogue deck they will nerf it to oblivion... :P
I think secret rogue is probably one if not the best rogue archetype at the moment. It's not too polarized and offers varied games, tho it is a bit harder to pilot effectively than weapon rogue or aggro. I was playing this list last week in top 1K with around 60%+ in 30 or so games.
### Secret Rogue
# Class: Rogue
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Phoenix
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# 2x (0) Backstab
# 2x (0) Preparation
# 2x (0) Shadowstep
# 2x (1) Blackjack Stunner
# 2x (1) Intrepid Initiate
# 2x (1) Pharaoh Cat
# 2x (1) Secret Passage
# 2x (1) Wand Thief
# 2x (2) Ambush
# 2x (2) Dirty Tricks
# 2x (2) Eviscerate
# 1x (2) Plagiarize
# 1x (2) Shadowjeweler Hanar
# 1x (3) Edwin VanCleef
# 2x (3) EVIL Miscreant
# 2x (3) Questing Adventurer
# 1x (5) Jandice Barov
#
AAECAaIHBLIC+8QD2dED5dMDDbQB7QKXBogHhgmPlwP1pwPMuQPOuQPQuQOqywPczAOk0QMA
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