Also, Blizzard already nerfed Kael'thas, which was mainly used in druid decks. Can we get refund of dust for Ysera? Some players literally have no dust after creating ysera-kael-druid decks!
Some players literally have no dust after creating ysera-kael-druid decks!
Also, you should probably get used to this, OP.
That's why it's generally advisable not to craft anything early on in the expansion, and definitely not before the first set of nerfs, if you're low on dust. Some players choose to wait and see how the meta shapes up first, before crafting anything.
Well I guess that's one of the main reasons why hs isn't noobfriendly.You make a deck around a specific card, the nerf comes out and the deck becomes unplayable (but you won't get a refund for all cards at most for one).Congratulations, you've just lost a lot of precious dust on useless cards. For example, in LoR there is no such possibility, because being F2P you simply have the entire collection of cards, you play, combine and enjoy the content of the game. Unfortunately, in hs it is impossible, and even such a prosaic thing as creating and testing decks is reserved only for those who pay Blizzard with each expansion. Amazing how F2Ps still want to play it ... I don't understand it.
Well I guess that's one of the main reasons why hs isn't noobfriendly.You make a deck around a specific card, the nerf comes out and the deck becomes unplayable (but you won't get a refund for all cards at most for one).Congratulations, you've just lost a lot of precious dust on useless cards. For example, in LoR there is no such possibility, because being F2P you simply have the entire collection of cards, you play, combine and enjoy the content of the game. Unfortunately, in hs it is impossible, and even such a prosaic thing as creating and testing decks is reserved only for those who pay Blizzard with each expansion. Amazing how F2Ps still want to play it ... I don't understand it.
Only realistic f2p are those that play regularly for a stable amount of time, you can get playing only quests some 20 packs per month, with 80 is enough to have all rares and most epics of the set. (you save from the previous set for the new one etc..) I know some people that are F2P for years and now have golden decks in wild
Also wild is MUCH cheaper than standard especially during several expansion. there is a reason that wild is so popular in the chinese server.
Well I guess that's one of the main reasons why hs isn't noobfriendly.You make a deck around a specific card, the nerf comes out and the deck becomes unplayable (but you won't get a refund for all cards at most for one).Congratulations, you've just lost a lot of precious dust on useless cards. For example, in LoR there is no such possibility, because being F2P you simply have the entire collection of cards, you play, combine and enjoy the content of the game. Unfortunately, in hs it is impossible, and even such a prosaic thing as creating and testing decks is reserved only for those who pay Blizzard with each expansion. Amazing how F2Ps still want to play it ... I don't understand it.
I hope you aren't refering to the current change. Who the hell crafts a deck just to summon Nozdormu out of an Ysera portal? Just no. This was a much needed fix.
I think there's some cases where adjacent nerfs might warrant a partial dust refund on something. Mekgineer Thermaplugg should have gotten one for the Leper Gnome nerf, since he's so closely tied to them.
However, I'm not convinced for druid. Kael was free. Ysera was an odd glitch on a random dragon. The bones of the deck still seem fairly strong. I don't think anything warrants a dust refund.
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I'm a little salty over the Leeching Poison nerf, since I'd been thinking about crafting Kingsbane for nearly the whole season, and when I finally do, a week later they nerf the vital synergy card and I've wasted a legendary worth of dust. Not that Kingsbane should have got a refund, but like... maybe tap some adjacent rare so it's not as much of a total wash? Bah... that's just pointless salt.
Ysera unleashed was a stupid stupid card...I bought it up recently in a post on here in refernce to auto-pilot decks.
I appreciate that Blizzard likes to help those who might not otherwise stand a chance against skilled opponents a genuine chance of winning, but cards like this go too far. There is just zero skill and zero nuance to the card, it does the same thing every time you slam it down, its powerful and fucking boring at the same time - it acts very much like a late game jade druid package, providing 2, maybe even 3 boards full of minions that absolutely must be answered immediately or its game over. Yeah....no more of this shit please.
Ysera unleashed was a stupid stupid card...I bought it up recently in a post on here in refernce to auto-pilot decks.
I appreciate that Blizzard likes to help those who might not otherwise stand a chance against skilled opponents a genuine chance of winning, but cards like this go too far. There is just zero skill and zero nuance to the card, it does the same thing every time you slam it down, its powerful and fucking boring at the same time - it acts very much like a late game jade druid package, providing 2, maybe even 3 boards full of minions that absolutely must be answered immediately or its game over. Yeah....no more of this shit please.
But you realize it wasn't nerfed at all? They merely removed Nozdormu from the pool and only because due to long animations of the portals it could have skipped your turn. Other than that it remains the same and is arguably stronger.
Ysera unleashed was a stupid stupid card...I bought it up recently in a post on here in refernce to auto-pilot decks.
I appreciate that Blizzard likes to help those who might not otherwise stand a chance against skilled opponents a genuine chance of winning, but cards like this go too far. There is just zero skill and zero nuance to the card, it does the same thing every time you slam it down, its powerful and fucking boring at the same time - it acts very much like a late game jade druid package, providing 2, maybe even 3 boards full of minions that absolutely must be answered immediately or its game over. Yeah....no more of this shit please.
But you realize it wasn't nerfed at all? They merely removed Nozdormu from the pool and only because due to long animations of the portals it could have skipped your turn. Other than that it remains the same and is arguably stronger.
If you're crafting Ysera, Unleashed for the express purpose of trying to randomly summon Nozdormu in order to exploit a timing bug, I'm not sure what to tell you. There are 46 possible dragons that might be summoned from one of Ysera's portals in Standard, which means you're banking on a 2.17% chance from each portal. Sure, you get 7 chances at it, but that's still not a very high expected success rate. This changes the pool from 46 different dragons to 45 different dragons. I just don't see where that warrants a dust refund.
If you're crafting Ysera, Unleashed for the express purpose of trying to randomly summon Nozdormu in order to exploit a timing bug, I'm not sure what to tell you. There are 46 possible dragons that might be summoned from one of Ysera's portals in Standard, which means you're banking on a 2.17% chance from each portal. Sure, you get 7 chances at it, but that's still not a very high expected success rate. This changes the pool from 46 different dragons to 45 different dragons. I just don't see where that warrants a dust refund.
The bug wasn't even abusable. It rather skipped YOUR turn, because of Portal's animation. Unless you purposely played a drawing effect at the end of your turn to have it resolve during the opponent's turn, but still, having a Portal containing Nozdormu in your deck would be as risky to you as to your opponent (in a theoretical scenario, when you could actually control, what your portals have inside).
I think repeatedly nerfing a card that was a gift that was meant to incentivize new & returning players and not giving ANY compensation for that is really lousy, but not really very surprising.
I think repeatedly nerfing a card that was a gift that was meant to incentivize new & returning players and not giving ANY compensation for that is really lousy, but not really very surprising.
Because it was a free card and they have made the choice to balance it a bit because the effect could be too strong. What on earth are you wanting compensation for?
It is not a nerf, it as correction, the card don't become weaker because of that, instead the 8/8 you can ger a 3/2 or a 12/12 or 7/7 taunt, I don't call buff either.
I think repeatedly nerfing a card that was a gift that was meant to incentivize new & returning players and not giving ANY compensation for that is really lousy, but not really very surprising.
Because it was a free card and they have made the choice to balance it a bit because the effect could be too strong. What on earth are you wanting compensation for?
It's a promotional card that they've repeatedly nerfed. Just because they gave it to us for free doesn't mean they shouldn't compensate players. Especially when it's happened more than once.
If I gave someone a gift promoting my company, and then went "oh sorry, that gift is too good." and I spat on it, that's probably a bad business practice.
Blizzard just announced server nerf of https://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/127264-ysera-unleashed .
Also, Blizzard already nerfed Kael'thas, which was mainly used in druid decks. Can we get refund of dust for Ysera? Some players literally have no dust after creating ysera-kael-druid decks!
Also, you should probably get used to this, OP.
That's why it's generally advisable not to craft anything early on in the expansion, and definitely not before the first set of nerfs, if you're low on dust. Some players choose to wait and see how the meta shapes up first, before crafting anything.
Well I guess that's one of the main reasons why hs isn't noobfriendly. You make a deck around a specific card, the nerf comes out and the deck becomes unplayable (but you won't get a refund for all cards at most for one). Congratulations, you've just lost a lot of precious dust on useless cards.
For example, in LoR there is no such possibility, because being F2P you simply have the entire collection of cards, you play, combine and enjoy the content of the game.
Unfortunately, in hs it is impossible, and even such a prosaic thing as creating and testing decks is reserved only for those who pay Blizzard with each expansion.
Amazing how F2Ps still want to play it ... I don't understand it.
Only realistic f2p are those that play regularly for a stable amount of time, you can get playing only quests some 20 packs per month, with 80 is enough to have all rares and most epics of the set. (you save from the previous set for the new one etc..) I know some people that are F2P for years and now have golden decks in wild
Also wild is MUCH cheaper than standard especially during several expansion. there is a reason that wild is so popular in the chinese server.
I hope you aren't refering to the current change. Who the hell crafts a deck just to summon Nozdormu out of an Ysera portal? Just no. This was a much needed fix.
I would consider it a buff because it makes pool of dragons smaller and you have higher chance to summon better dragons
What are you on about? The druid deck is still incredibly strong.
I think there's some cases where adjacent nerfs might warrant a partial dust refund on something. Mekgineer Thermaplugg should have gotten one for the Leper Gnome nerf, since he's so closely tied to them.
However, I'm not convinced for druid. Kael was free. Ysera was an odd glitch on a random dragon. The bones of the deck still seem fairly strong. I don't think anything warrants a dust refund.
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I'm a little salty over the Leeching Poison nerf, since I'd been thinking about crafting Kingsbane for nearly the whole season, and when I finally do, a week later they nerf the vital synergy card and I've wasted a legendary worth of dust. Not that Kingsbane should have got a refund, but like... maybe tap some adjacent rare so it's not as much of a total wash? Bah... that's just pointless salt.
He wants dust, because Ysera can no longer summon Nozdormu. What is one of the most ridiculous request I've ever read here.
The recent hotfix isn't really a nerf to Ysera, Unleashed, is it? Kael'thas Sunstrider was a freebie.
While I think partial dust, gold or pack rewards to mitigate the knock-on effects of nerfs would be welcome, this isn't a deserving case.
I just played a couple of Guardian Druid games and Ysera and Kael are both still fine.
Ysera unleashed was a stupid stupid card...I bought it up recently in a post on here in refernce to auto-pilot decks.
I appreciate that Blizzard likes to help those who might not otherwise stand a chance against skilled opponents a genuine chance of winning, but cards like this go too far. There is just zero skill and zero nuance to the card, it does the same thing every time you slam it down, its powerful and fucking boring at the same time - it acts very much like a late game jade druid package, providing 2, maybe even 3 boards full of minions that absolutely must be answered immediately or its game over. Yeah....no more of this shit please.
But you realize it wasn't nerfed at all? They merely removed Nozdormu from the pool and only because due to long animations of the portals it could have skipped your turn. Other than that it remains the same and is arguably stronger.
Yup, just having a rant.
If you're crafting Ysera, Unleashed for the express purpose of trying to randomly summon Nozdormu in order to exploit a timing bug, I'm not sure what to tell you. There are 46 possible dragons that might be summoned from one of Ysera's portals in Standard, which means you're banking on a 2.17% chance from each portal. Sure, you get 7 chances at it, but that's still not a very high expected success rate. This changes the pool from 46 different dragons to 45 different dragons. I just don't see where that warrants a dust refund.
The bug wasn't even abusable. It rather skipped YOUR turn, because of Portal's animation. Unless you purposely played a drawing effect at the end of your turn to have it resolve during the opponent's turn, but still, having a Portal containing Nozdormu in your deck would be as risky to you as to your opponent (in a theoretical scenario, when you could actually control, what your portals have inside).
I think repeatedly nerfing a card that was a gift that was meant to incentivize new & returning players and not giving ANY compensation for that is really lousy, but not really very surprising.
Because it was a free card and they have made the choice to balance it a bit because the effect could be too strong. What on earth are you wanting compensation for?
It is not a nerf, it as correction, the card don't become weaker because of that, instead the 8/8 you can ger a 3/2 or a 12/12 or 7/7 taunt, I don't call buff either.
It's a promotional card that they've repeatedly nerfed. Just because they gave it to us for free doesn't mean they shouldn't compensate players. Especially when it's happened more than once.
If I gave someone a gift promoting my company, and then went "oh sorry, that gift is too good." and I spat on it, that's probably a bad business practice.