I want people to stop complaining everything. This forum is becoming a place of pissed off losers only crying about salty stuffs, crying and complaining everything for months. Stop play if you don't like it, don't complain for months.
Please try again. Your argument is as old as HS and has been used for years. I know you are smarter than this.
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I want people to stop complaining everything. This forum is becoming a place of pissed off losers only crying about salty stuffs, crying and complaining everything for months. Stop play if you don't like it, don't complain for months.
This is not a thread about complaints or things like that, but how do you know everyone that complains here is a loser? My dude, do you seriously believe everything you hear or find on the internet? C'mon, be more open minded, people, or reality will end up crushing you someday (that was just an advice, that's all :P).
You really think people like the game to be imbalanced and only play with a few decks that are able to compete? That's insane. We all try to do that if it's possible and some get bored sooner than others. But Blizzard would lose all their customers if they never care to balance the game at all. Try to convince me this is not the case.
You really think people like the game to be imbalanced and only play with a few decks that are able to compete? That's insane. We all try to do that if it's possible and some get bored sooner than others. But Blizzard would lose all their customers if they never care to balance the game at all. Try to convince me this is not the case.
I won't explain you anything. Why? Because you went full hyperbole, dude. You can believe what you want, I'm not going to try to change your mind.
You really think people like the game to be imbalanced and only play with a few decks that are able to compete? That's insane. We all try to do that if it's possible and some get bored sooner than others. But Blizzard would lose all their customers if they never care to balance the game at all. Try to convince me this is not the case.
I won't explain you anything. Why? Because you went full hyperbole, dude. You can believe what you want, I'm not going to try to change your mind.
You really think people like the game to be imbalanced and only play with a few decks that are able to compete? That's insane. We all try to do that if it's possible and some get bored sooner than others. But Blizzard would lose all their customers if they never care to balance the game at all. Try to convince me this is not the case.
I won't explain you anything. Why? Because you went full hyperbole, dude. You can believe what you want, I'm not going to try to change your mind.
But what is the point of your thread then?
Read the opening post again and pay more attention this time. Sorry, but I'm a bit busy right now. If you knew my favorite hobbie, you would understand.
You really think people like the game to be imbalanced and only play with a few decks that are able to compete? That's insane. We all try to do that if it's possible and some get bored sooner than others. But Blizzard would lose all their customers if they never care to balance the game at all. Try to convince me this is not the case.
I won't explain you anything. Why? Because you went full hyperbole, dude. You can believe what you want, I'm not going to try to change your mind.
But what is the point of your thread then?
Read the opening post again and pay more attention this time. Sorry, but I'm a bit busy right now. If you knew my favorite hobbie, you would understand.
Judging by your post count I'd say your favorite hobby is spamming these forums.
You really think people like the game to be imbalanced and only play with a few decks that are able to compete? That's insane. We all try to do that if it's possible and some get bored sooner than others. But Blizzard would lose all their customers if they never care to balance the game at all. Try to convince me this is not the case.
I won't explain you anything. Why? Because you went full hyperbole, dude. You can believe what you want, I'm not going to try to change your mind.
But what is the point of your thread then?
Read the opening post again and pay more attention this time. Sorry, but I'm a bit busy right now. If you knew my favorite hobbie, you would understand.
I did, and yet I don't know. So that is the reason I ask. I can wait for an answer, so take your time.
You really think people like the game to be imbalanced and only play with a few decks that are able to compete? That's insane. We all try to do that if it's possible and some get bored sooner than others. But Blizzard would lose all their customers if they never care to balance the game at all. Try to convince me this is not the case.
I won't explain you anything. Why? Because you went full hyperbole, dude. You can believe what you want, I'm not going to try to change your mind.
But what is the point of your thread then?
Read the opening post again and pay more attention this time. Sorry, but I'm a bit busy right now. If you knew my favorite hobbie, you would understand.
I did, and yet I don't know. So that is the reason I ask. I can wait for an answer, so take your time.
If you don't understand it, seriously, it is not my problem. Honesty, I'm not going to waste my time and energy trying to explain everything again to just one person (or a handful more). I'm really sorry, but I'm not here for things like that.
By the way, nice signature, but what is unexpected these days? :P
You really think people like the game to be imbalanced and only play with a few decks that are able to compete? That's insane. We all try to do that if it's possible and some get bored sooner than others. But Blizzard would lose all their customers if they never care to balance the game at all. Try to convince me this is not the case.
I won't explain you anything. Why? Because you went full hyperbole, dude. You can believe what you want, I'm not going to try to change your mind.
But what is the point of your thread then?
Read the opening post again and pay more attention this time. Sorry, but I'm a bit busy right now. If you knew my favorite hobbie, you would understand.
I did, and yet I don't know. So that is the reason I ask. I can wait for an answer, so take your time.
If you don't understand it, seriously, it is not my problem. Honesty, I'm not going to waste my time and energy trying to explain everything again to just one person (or a handful more). I'm really sorry, but I'm not here for things like that.
By the way, nice signature, but what is unexpected these days? :P
So you do not want any discussion in the thread you started? Seems strange.
Let me explain what i mean in a longer statement. Here isn't just one group of people doing one or another. It's more like a cycle:
testing new stuff when expansion hits → realize it's broken → some stop playing it/some don't → people get bored by seeing it → nerfs happen → people enjoy the game again → new expansion hits
But if nerfs NEVER occur, there won't be any players left after a while. It may take some time, but it will happen eventually:
testing new stuff when expansion hits → realize it's broken → some stop playing it/some don't → people get bored by seeing it → the first people leaving the game → the same decks reign the meta → more people leave the game → new expansion hits (maybe players come back, but most likely they won't, because the oppressing decks are still there)
You see the difference? Nerfs are mandatory to keep the game healthy. If there is a mistake in this explanation please let me know.
So you do not want any discussion in the thread you started? Seems strange.
Hyperbole again. This thread has 5 pages already and do you dare to say I don't want any discussion? Don't waste my time, dude, and don't waste yours either.
You really think people like the game to be imbalanced and only play with a few decks that are able to compete? That's insane. We all try to do that if it's possible and some get bored sooner than others. But Blizzard would lose all their customers if they never care to balance the game at all. Try to convince me this is not the case.
I won't explain you anything. Why? Because you went full hyperbole, dude. You can believe what you want, I'm not going to try to change your mind.
But what is the point of your thread then?
Read the opening post again and pay more attention this time. Sorry, but I'm a bit busy right now. If you knew my favorite hobbie, you would understand.
I did, and yet I don't know. So that is the reason I ask. I can wait for an answer, so take your time.
If you don't understand it, seriously, it is not my problem. Honesty, I'm not going to waste my time and energy trying to explain everything again to just one person (or a handful more). I'm really sorry, but I'm not here for things like that.
By the way, nice signature, but what is unexpected these days? :P
@Sherman. I not normally do this but let me give it a try:
Card design specifically caters into a target audience that demand a proactive, burn, buff, charger game which is a result of overdone face damage out of hand. A mindless low skill and aggressive standard meta, expansion after expansion as a result. That makes the game unbalanced. The fact that skill doesn't count and you are unable to win simply because you outsmarted, outpaced, outmanoeuvred your opponent.
A lack of balance shows itself because of the steep RPS and the lack of win condition diversity. You win simply because the matchup is in your favor, not because you are that good. The fact that complete classes can fall from ladder a clear sign of unbalance. Balance is not what Blizzard wants as it doesn't help the chosen revenue model as it would enstrange the target audience. Balance would raise the skill floor and the last thing the target audience wants is a raised skill floor.
So a lack of balance is here to stay....to serve the vulgar crowd. The extremely low skill floor is the most obvious sign of imbalance.
You really think people like the game to be imbalanced and only play with a few decks that are able to compete? That's insane. We all try to do that if it's possible and some get bored sooner than others. But Blizzard would lose all their customers if they never care to balance the game at all. Try to convince me this is not the case.
I won't explain you anything. Why? Because you went full hyperbole, dude. You can believe what you want, I'm not going to try to change your mind.
But what is the point of your thread then?
Read the opening post again and pay more attention this time. Sorry, but I'm a bit busy right now. If you knew my favorite hobbie, you would understand.
I did, and yet I don't know. So that is the reason I ask. I can wait for an answer, so take your time.
If you don't understand it, seriously, it is not my problem. Honesty, I'm not going to waste my time and energy trying to explain everything again to just one person (or a handful more). I'm really sorry, but I'm not here for things like that.
By the way, nice signature, but what is unexpected these days? :P
You really think people like the game to be imbalanced and only play with a few decks that are able to compete? That's insane. We all try to do that if it's possible and some get bored sooner than others. But Blizzard would lose all their customers if they never care to balance the game at all. Try to convince me this is not the case.
I won't explain you anything. Why? Because you went full hyperbole, dude. You can believe what you want, I'm not going to try to change your mind.
But what is the point of your thread then?
Read the opening post again and pay more attention this time. Sorry, but I'm a bit busy right now. If you knew my favorite hobbie, you would understand.
I did, and yet I don't know. So that is the reason I ask. I can wait for an answer, so take your time.
If you don't understand it, seriously, it is not my problem. Honesty, I'm not going to waste my time and energy trying to explain everything again to just one person (or a handful more). I'm really sorry, but I'm not here for things like that.
By the way, nice signature, but what is unexpected these days? :P
@Sherman. I not normally do this but let me give it a try:
Card design specifically caters into a target audience that demand a proactive, burn, buff, charger game which is a result of overdone face damage out of hand. A mindless low skill and aggressive standard meta, expansion after expansion as a result. That makes the game unbalanced. The fact that skill doesn't count and you are unable to win simply because you outsmarted, outpaced, outmanoeuvred your opponent.
A lack of balance shows itself because of the steep RPS and the lack of win condition diversity. You win simply because the matchup is in your favor, not because you are that good. The fact that complete classes can fall from ladder a clear sign of unbalance. Balance is not what Blizzard wants as it doesn't help the chosen revenue model as it would enstrange the target audience. Balance would raise the skill floor and the last thing the target audience wants is a raised skill floor.
So a lack of balance is here to stay....to serve the vulgar crowd. The extremly low skill floor is the most obvious sign of imbalance.
Well put, Hooghout! Thanks for the favor, much appreciated! :)
You know, I'm starting to really like you. Even when we have some notable differences, seems like we really don't think that different in the end.
You really think people like the game to be imbalanced and only play with a few decks that are able to compete? That's insane. We all try to do that if it's possible and some get bored sooner than others. But Blizzard would lose all their customers if they never care to balance the game at all. Try to convince me this is not the case.
I won't explain you anything. Why? Because you went full hyperbole, dude. You can believe what you want, I'm not going to try to change your mind.
But what is the point of your thread then?
Read the opening post again and pay more attention this time. Sorry, but I'm a bit busy right now. If you knew my favorite hobbie, you would understand.
I did, and yet I don't know. So that is the reason I ask. I can wait for an answer, so take your time.
If you don't understand it, seriously, it is not my problem. Honesty, I'm not going to waste my time and energy trying to explain everything again to just one person (or a handful more). I'm really sorry, but I'm not here for things like that.
By the way, nice signature, but what is unexpected these days? :P
@Sherman. I not normally do this but let me give it a try:
Card design specifically caters into a target audience that demand a proactive, burn, buff, charger game which is a result of overdone face damage out of hand. A mindless low skill and aggressive standard meta, expansion after expansion as a result. That makes the game unbalanced. The fact that skill doesn't count and you are unable to win simply because you outsmarted, outpaced, outmanoeuvred your opponent.
A lack of balance shows itself because of the steep RPS and the lack of win condition diversity. You win simply because the matchup is in your favor, not because you are that good. The fact that complete classes can fall from ladder a clear sign of unbalance. Balance is not what Blizzard wants as it doesn't help the chosen revenue model as it would enstrange the target audience. Balance would raise the skill floor and the last thing the target audience wants is a raised skill floor.
So a lack of balance is here to stay....to serve the vulgar crowd. The extremely low skill floor is the most obvious sign of imbalance.
The low skill floor is by design, player engagement dictates that even the worst players need to win half their games.
You are the most authentic and genuine person on this forum. These traits need defence against a mindless pack.
Thank you very much for the compliment! :) I wish I could be even more authentic and genuine, but the internet (well, actually the world...) is full of weirdos. Everything in due time, I guess! Take care! :)
I agree to a point with your recount of the balance vs business model thought.
My curiosity is this: If the resulting status of the game is catered to simplicity and a specific demographic of players to keep/create a specific player base and revenue. And this is an ECCG, then how do PCCG's continue to thrive when they cater to the same demographic of players AND the others as well? (the only difference in the demographic is electronic vs physical)
Follow that up with, why then can't/won't blizzard follow suit of the PCCG's and institute similar business strategies to increase their revenue?
I agree to a point with your recount of the balance vs business model thought.
My curiosity is this: If the resulting status of the game is catered to simplicity and a specific demographic of players to keep/create a specific player base and revenue. And this is an ECCG, then how do PCCG's continue to thrive when they cater to the same demographic of players AND the others as well? (the only difference in the demographic is electronic vs physical)
Follow that up with, why then can't/won't blizzard follow suit of the PCCG's and institute similar business strategies to increase their revenue?
People who love card games wether it is offline or online clairly settle for less if card design caters to simplicity. It is a business model allright, but imagine HS with a higher skill floor. Why in the world would that shrink the player base (assumed by blizzards current business model)?
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Please try again. Your argument is as old as HS and has been used for years. I know you are smarter than this.
We make our world significant through the courage of our questions and the depth of our answers.
This is not a thread about complaints or things like that, but how do you know everyone that complains here is a loser? My dude, do you seriously believe everything you hear or find on the internet? C'mon, be more open minded, people, or reality will end up crushing you someday (that was just an advice, that's all :P).
You really think people like the game to be imbalanced and only play with a few decks that are able to compete? That's insane. We all try to do that if it's possible and some get bored sooner than others. But Blizzard would lose all their customers if they never care to balance the game at all. Try to convince me this is not the case.
Always expect the unexpectable!
I won't explain you anything. Why? Because you went full hyperbole, dude. You can believe what you want, I'm not going to try to change your mind.
But what is the point of your thread then?
Always expect the unexpectable!
Read the opening post again and pay more attention this time. Sorry, but I'm a bit busy right now. If you knew my favorite hobbie, you would understand.
Judging by your post count I'd say your favorite hobby is spamming these forums.
I did, and yet I don't know. So that is the reason I ask. I can wait for an answer, so take your time.
Always expect the unexpectable!
If you don't understand it, seriously, it is not my problem. Honesty, I'm not going to waste my time and energy trying to explain everything again to just one person (or a handful more). I'm really sorry, but I'm not here for things like that.
By the way, nice signature, but what is unexpected these days? :P
So you do not want any discussion in the thread you started? Seems strange.
Let me explain what i mean in a longer statement. Here isn't just one group of people doing one or another. It's more like a cycle:
testing new stuff when expansion hits → realize it's broken → some stop playing it/some don't → people get bored by seeing it → nerfs happen → people enjoy the game again → new expansion hits
But if nerfs NEVER occur, there won't be any players left after a while. It may take some time, but it will happen eventually:
testing new stuff when expansion hits → realize it's broken → some stop playing it/some don't → people get bored by seeing it → the first people leaving the game → the same decks reign the meta → more people leave the game → new expansion hits (maybe players come back, but most likely they won't, because the oppressing decks are still there)
You see the difference? Nerfs are mandatory to keep the game healthy. If there is a mistake in this explanation please let me know.
Always expect the unexpectable!
Hyperbole again. This thread has 5 pages already and do you dare to say I don't want any discussion? Don't waste my time, dude, and don't waste yours either.
@Sherman. I not normally do this but let me give it a try:
Card design specifically caters into a target audience that demand a proactive, burn, buff, charger game which is a result of overdone face damage out of hand. A mindless low skill and aggressive standard meta, expansion after expansion as a result. That makes the game unbalanced. The fact that skill doesn't count and you are unable to win simply because you outsmarted, outpaced, outmanoeuvred your opponent.
A lack of balance shows itself because of the steep RPS and the lack of win condition diversity. You win simply because the matchup is in your favor, not because you are that good. The fact that complete classes can fall from ladder a clear sign of unbalance. Balance is not what Blizzard wants as it doesn't help the chosen revenue model as it would enstrange the target audience. Balance would raise the skill floor and the last thing the target audience wants is a raised skill floor.
So a lack of balance is here to stay....to serve the vulgar crowd. The extremely low skill floor is the most obvious sign of imbalance.
We make our world significant through the courage of our questions and the depth of our answers.
yep, agreed. 90% useless threads and 0% ability to take criticism.
lol. 200iq not getting the guy's signature.
Well put, Hooghout! Thanks for the favor, much appreciated! :)
You know, I'm starting to really like you. Even when we have some notable differences, seems like we really don't think that different in the end.
Thank you, again! :)
The low skill floor is by design, player engagement dictates that even the worst players need to win half their games.
You are the most authentic and genuine person on this forum. These traits need defence against a mindless pack.
We make our world significant through the courage of our questions and the depth of our answers.
Thank you very much for the compliment! :) I wish I could be even more authentic and genuine, but the internet (well, actually the world...) is full of weirdos. Everything in due time, I guess! Take care! :)
@Hooghout
I agree to a point with your recount of the balance vs business model thought.
My curiosity is this:
If the resulting status of the game is catered to simplicity and a specific demographic of players to keep/create a specific player base and revenue. And this is an ECCG, then how do PCCG's continue to thrive when they cater to the same demographic of players AND the others as well? (the only difference in the demographic is electronic vs physical)
Follow that up with, why then can't/won't blizzard follow suit of the PCCG's and institute similar business strategies to increase their revenue?
Cute, ineffective, but cute.
People who love card games wether it is offline or online clairly settle for less if card design caters to simplicity. It is a business model allright, but imagine HS with a higher skill floor. Why in the world would that shrink the player base (assumed by blizzards current business model)?
We make our world significant through the courage of our questions and the depth of our answers.