Does anybody have a sense of whether we'll see additional nerfs coming? I'm sitting on quite a few duplicate cards in Standard, not dusting them so I can take advantage of any nerfs. Has paid off nicely for past nerfs, but wondering if it makes sense to keep sitting on it. There are a few cards/decks I'm curious about and could use the dust for, but it's not a pressing issue. Thanks.
I don't think so at the moment. Nothing seems so drastically overpowered as to still require more nerfs IMO. I'd still like to see some buffs, however.
I am fairly confident that no, we won't see any more nerfs. Meta is in place, where there's no clear best deck, DH, Hunter, Warrior and Rogue are all at similar level of power and there are many viable Tier 2 picks, like Spell Druid, Maly Lock, Paladin, Mage... There's literally nothing to hit, unless they'd want to hit everything to reduce the overall power level (which won't happen).
to an extent i'd like some nerfs / buffs just so the meta changes. it is so boring playing against exactly the same 5 decks in standard time and time again for the last 6 weeks... every single game is a repetition of the previous one or the one before
We don’t have any indication there’ll be nerfs soon, do if you want to craft cards, do so.
But always make sure to sit on duplicate cards unless you want the dust (like you do now) and them only disenchant the bad to decent cards which will very likely never be nerfed. Keep all cards you need to think might be nerfed in the future.
Nerfs? I'd say no, but Warlock desperately needs buffs! He's the worst class in standard now and his best deck - which is Malygos Quest Lock - is bottom of T3. To be honest It's exactly what I predicted. Zoo Lock was mediocre at best before Imp nerf, now it's pure garbage (bottom of T4, one of the worst decks in the meta) but people were downvoting me for saying so and they were praising Blizzard for "accurate nerf"...
Nerfs? I'd say no, but Warlock desperately needs buffs! He's the worst class in standard now
I think you misspelled Shaman.
On topic: I don't think there will be any more buffs/nerfs for this expansion. This month the single player content comes out and next month it's reveal season.
Nerfs? I'd say no, but Warlock desperately needs buffs! He's the worst class in standard now and his best deck - which is Malygos Quest Lock - is bottom of T3. To be honest It's exactly what I predicted. Zoo Lock was mediocre at best before Imp nerf, now it's pure garbage (bottom of T4, one of the worst decks in the meta) but people were downvoting me for saying so and they were praising Blizzard for "accurate nerf"...
Have you tried the deck or are you just blindly following stats from Hsreplay? Maly Lock is a very solid deck, has well-rounded match-ups (can win vs basically everything from the top meta, match-ups are close). So called pros agree it's a solid deck, which can bring you good results, it's just not popular. Even Vicious Syndicate - another site people follow blindly without using their own brain, admitted in their last snapshot that it's a nice deck to monitor in coming weeks and that it is simply good and its stats don't reflect its power.
Tiers in Hearthstone are trash nowadays. There is tier 1 + a multitude of Tier 2 decks. You could easily say there are like 10 Tier 2 Decks and it's because a skilled player can easily reach WR over 50% with them. Maly Lock is one of them.
It's unfavored only against Hunter and DH, but only slightly. Typical 45-55 match-ups. Even vicious syndicate classifies these match-ups as light red, not red. I myself win most more than 50% matches than DH - granted, I don't know what is their level of skill, maybe they suck, after all the season has just started and I am merely gold for now. So heavily unfavored is a huge, huge overstatement.
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I'd love to see another balance change, but I'd be surprised if they did a fourth balance change this expansion-- even if their philosophy have been more lenient and evolving away from 'as little changes to cards after they're released'
I really loved how we got an expansion and adventure (with actual new cards) with the Dragons expansion. Releasing the adventure with a small set a cards helped spice the meta a bit-- and I really wish they would've continued doing this but it doesn't seem like the case with the upcoming Outlands Adventure (with no tease in sight)
I have done a lot of highroll bullshit with Exotic Mountseller lately, but with the very slow starts spell druid tends to have, I am not sure if it is enough to warrant a nerf.
Nerfs? I'd say no, but Warlock desperately needs buffs! He's the worst class in standard now and his best deck - which is Malygos Quest Lock - is bottom of T3. To be honest It's exactly what I predicted. Zoo Lock was mediocre at best before Imp nerf, now it's pure garbage (bottom of T4, one of the worst decks in the meta) but people were downvoting me for saying so and they were praising Blizzard for "accurate nerf"...
Wut?? Dude, have you even tried any Warlock deck at all? Galakrond Warlock is still amazing, I got legend last season with 70%+ W/R, and I'm on my way to get it again this season, being currently 18/5 with the deck. Zoo Warlock is still playable, and there's also the deck aroundKanrethad Ebonlocke, the version with Sathrovarr and Expired Merchant, it is also very competitive.
Does anybody have a sense of whether we'll see additional nerfs coming? I'm sitting on quite a few duplicate cards in Standard, not dusting them so I can take advantage of any nerfs. Has paid off nicely for past nerfs, but wondering if it makes sense to keep sitting on it. There are a few cards/decks I'm curious about and could use the dust for, but it's not a pressing issue. Thanks.
I don't think so at the moment. Nothing seems so drastically overpowered as to still require more nerfs IMO. I'd still like to see some buffs, however.
I am fairly confident that no, we won't see any more nerfs. Meta is in place, where there's no clear best deck, DH, Hunter, Warrior and Rogue are all at similar level of power and there are many viable Tier 2 picks, like Spell Druid, Maly Lock, Paladin, Mage... There's literally nothing to hit, unless they'd want to hit everything to reduce the overall power level (which won't happen).
Nothing's going to be nerfed until the next expansion, at least
to an extent i'd like some nerfs / buffs just so the meta changes. it is so boring playing against exactly the same 5 decks in standard time and time again for the last 6 weeks... every single game is a repetition of the previous one or the one before
We don’t have any indication there’ll be nerfs soon, do if you want to craft cards, do so.
But always make sure to sit on duplicate cards unless you want the dust (like you do now) and them only disenchant the bad to decent cards which will very likely never be nerfed. Keep all cards you need to think might be nerfed in the future.
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I heard in one week there will be another adventure on the horizon. Maybe also with a couple class cards as we had before.
when is expected next expansion to be released ?
Probably late July or early August
Nerfs? I'd say no, but Warlock desperately needs buffs! He's the worst class in standard now and his best deck - which is Malygos Quest Lock - is bottom of T3. To be honest It's exactly what I predicted. Zoo Lock was mediocre at best before Imp nerf, now it's pure garbage (bottom of T4, one of the worst decks in the meta) but people were downvoting me for saying so and they were praising Blizzard for "accurate nerf"...
I think you misspelled Shaman.
On topic: I don't think there will be any more buffs/nerfs for this expansion. This month the single player content comes out and next month it's reveal season.
i would say theyll realese new buffs anytime soon
Have you tried the deck or are you just blindly following stats from Hsreplay? Maly Lock is a very solid deck, has well-rounded match-ups (can win vs basically everything from the top meta, match-ups are close). So called pros agree it's a solid deck, which can bring you good results, it's just not popular. Even Vicious Syndicate - another site people follow blindly without using their own brain, admitted in their last snapshot that it's a nice deck to monitor in coming weeks and that it is simply good and its stats don't reflect its power.
Tiers in Hearthstone are trash nowadays. There is tier 1 + a multitude of Tier 2 decks. You could easily say there are like 10 Tier 2 Decks and it's because a skilled player can easily reach WR over 50% with them. Maly Lock is one of them.
You only forgot to mention, that it's unfavored heavily against most popular decks in the meta.
It's unfavored only against Hunter and DH, but only slightly. Typical 45-55 match-ups. Even vicious syndicate classifies these match-ups as light red, not red. I myself win most more than 50% matches than DH - granted, I don't know what is their level of skill, maybe they suck, after all the season has just started and I am merely gold for now. So heavily unfavored is a huge, huge overstatement.
i hope nerfs come i like when meta change
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I'd love to see another balance change, but I'd be surprised if they did a fourth balance change this expansion-- even if their philosophy have been more lenient and evolving away from 'as little changes to cards after they're released'
I really loved how we got an expansion and adventure (with actual new cards) with the Dragons expansion. Releasing the adventure with a small set a cards helped spice the meta a bit-- and I really wish they would've continued doing this but it doesn't seem like the case with the upcoming Outlands Adventure (with no tease in sight)
I have done a lot of highroll bullshit with Exotic Mountseller lately, but with the very slow starts spell druid tends to have, I am not sure if it is enough to warrant a nerf.
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Wait until diamond then, where you'll face more Secret Galakrond Rogues, Highlander Mages, Highlander Hunters or Bomb Warriors...
Wut?? Dude, have you even tried any Warlock deck at all? Galakrond Warlock is still amazing, I got legend last season with 70%+ W/R, and I'm on my way to get it again this season, being currently 18/5 with the deck. Zoo Warlock is still playable, and there's also the deck aroundKanrethad Ebonlocke, the version with Sathrovarr and Expired Merchant, it is also very competitive.