Just not so long ago I used to get good quality cards as warlock, mage, hunter and shaman. Now I mostly get poor quality class cards or bad neutral class. Like I used to draft 3 to 4 eyes of the storm as shaman, now i hardly get to draft one. As mage it's so hard to have any card generation and as warlock i rarely get the 2/2 dude that gives you lackeys or any other value generators. I understand they had to nerf priest because it was getting too much value in arena, but other classes weren't like that. Now i'm on a losing streak with almost 10 arenas in a row with very poor quality decks. And before that everything was going fine in terms of card value. The only good value class now seems to be paladin and warrior if you get lucky.
It’s gotten bad. I really wish they hadn’t gone to the new system. It seems like a lot of major information resources for hearthstone don’t really track arena anymore apart from giving a tier list or cards like hearth arena. I find it difficult to know what classes are good during each new expansion. It was a game mode I used to take advantage of to make gold since I could get decent and even good runs consistently. Something had to be done a while back since the card Pool was getting huge but this new random sets system apart from the last few expansions is more annoying than actually fun.
There’s no way to know what cards are in the pool anymore. You can google sets but to my knowledge there is no resource that ranks the best classes at any give time, or even gives a top class list. I haven’t been able to find a card list for any meta of arena in the last several months. You can find out what sets but it’s a major pain in the ass to pull up pages that show one expansion worth of cards at a time.
I wouldn’t dismiss anything you say as being salty . It’s a major problem with a lot of the people here and the salt thread actually adds fuel to the fire. A lot of genuine criticism or pointing out problems with the game probably gets lost because half of the community here just labels you as tilted and directs you to the salt thread, followed by the mods shutting down posts. It’s a pretty snobby community anymore thats a lot of people who get off on making people angry by playing some of the worst decks in the format. Just so they can laugh and call you salty when in reality they are just ruining the game.
The game state as a whole is bad and arena has gone in quality too sadly. You might as well consider it another trash can like wild. It’s a dead mode that Blizzard and most major hearthstone sites / source don’t care about anymore. You’ll probably get a few people saying “arena in 2020 lol”.
Thanks for the reply. However, i don't see how ruining arena benefits game. For many players it's a source of gold income. Unless they want people to stop enjoying arena and thus getting a solid source of gold income. It's just no fun to play with just vanilla cards in Arena.
are u guys kidding? i DRAFT INSANE decks and i get destroyed at 3/0 or or 3/1 from MORE INSANE decks with decks that are supoosed to go 12 wins or even 10 i do 7 wins,or sometimes with that matchups i do 3 or 4 warriors are an asbolute joke on arena,extremely good card quality
It’s gotten bad. I really wish they hadn’t gone to the new system. It seems like a lot of major information resources for hearthstone don’t really track arena anymore apart from giving a tier list or cards like hearth arena. I find it difficult to know what classes are good during each new expansion. It was a game mode I used to take advantage of to make gold since I could get decent and even good runs consistently. Something had to be done a while back since the card Pool was getting huge but this new random sets system apart from the last few expansions is more annoying than actually fun.
There’s no way to know what cards are in the pool anymore. You can google sets but to my knowledge there is no resource that ranks the best classes at any give time, or even gives a top class list. I haven’t been able to find a card list for any meta of arena in the last several months. You can find out what sets but it’s a major pain in the ass to pull up pages that show one expansion worth of cards at a time.
I wouldn’t dismiss anything you say as being salty . It’s a major problem with a lot of the people here and the salt thread actually adds fuel to the fire. A lot of genuine criticism or pointing out problems with the game probably gets lost because half of the community here just labels you as tilted and directs you to the salt thread, followed by the mods shutting down posts. It’s a pretty snobby community anymore thats a lot of people who get off on making people angry by playing some of the worst decks in the format. Just so they can laugh and call you salty when in reality they are just ruining the game.
The game state as a whole is bad and arena has gone in quality too sadly. You might as well consider it another trash can like wild. It’s a dead mode that Blizzard and most major hearthstone sites / source don’t care about anymore. You’ll probably get a few people saying “arena in 2020 lol”.
It’s gotten bad. I really wish they hadn’t gone to the new system. It seems like a lot of major information resources for hearthstone don’t really track arena anymore apart from giving a tier list or cards like hearth arena. I find it difficult to know what classes are good during each new expansion. It was a game mode I used to take advantage of to make gold since I could get decent and even good runs consistently. Something had to be done a while back since the card Pool was getting huge but this new random sets system apart from the last few expansions is more annoying than actually fun.
There’s no way to know what cards are in the pool anymore. You can google sets but to my knowledge there is no resource that ranks the best classes at any give time, or even gives a top class list. I haven’t been able to find a card list for any meta of arena in the last several months. You can find out what sets but it’s a major pain in the ass to pull up pages that show one expansion worth of cards at a time.
I wouldn’t dismiss anything you say as being salty . It’s a major problem with a lot of the people here and the salt thread actually adds fuel to the fire. A lot of genuine criticism or pointing out problems with the game probably gets lost because half of the community here just labels you as tilted and directs you to the salt thread, followed by the mods shutting down posts. It’s a pretty snobby community anymore thats a lot of people who get off on making people angry by playing some of the worst decks in the format. Just so they can laugh and call you salty when in reality they are just ruining the game.
The game state as a whole is bad and arena has gone in quality too sadly. You might as well consider it another trash can like wild. It’s a dead mode that Blizzard and most major hearthstone sites / source don’t care about anymore. You’ll probably get a few people saying “arena in 2020 lol”.
dude hsreplay shows real stats of standard wild and arena,it shows cards,for everysingle class,the winrate the pickrate the play rate , know your stuff before u go whining like that
First of all is Arena has bad cards then that applies to all players, so nothing changes w.r.t. the gold-earning potential. Secondly I think the Arena is as strong as it has ever been lately. Former auto-picks like Yeti are borderline mediocre currently. Also, HSReplay stats are a pretty good indicator of the relative strength of each class (although I don't believe Hunter is top2 - I always draft horribly when I pick Hunter). Maybe you had a few unlucky drafts, can happen to anyone
IMO it went that way when they removed Arena buckets. The pure RNG method doesn't work very well. You can either pull absolute BS or absolute garbage, nothing to guarantee inbetween
It’s gotten bad. I really wish they hadn’t gone to the new system. It seems like a lot of major information resources for hearthstone don’t really track arena anymore apart from giving a tier list or cards like hearth arena. I find it difficult to know what classes are good during each new expansion. It was a game mode I used to take advantage of to make gold since I could get decent and even good runs consistently. Something had to be done a while back since the card Pool was getting huge but this new random sets system apart from the last few expansions is more annoying than actually fun.
There’s no way to know what cards are in the pool anymore. You can google sets but to my knowledge there is no resource that ranks the best classes at any give time, or even gives a top class list. I haven’t been able to find a card list for any meta of arena in the last several months. You can find out what sets but it’s a major pain in the ass to pull up pages that show one expansion worth of cards at a time.
I wouldn’t dismiss anything you say as being salty . It’s a major problem with a lot of the people here and the salt thread actually adds fuel to the fire. A lot of genuine criticism or pointing out problems with the game probably gets lost because half of the community here just labels you as tilted and directs you to the salt thread, followed by the mods shutting down posts. It’s a pretty snobby community anymore thats a lot of people who get off on making people angry by playing some of the worst decks in the format. Just so they can laugh and call you salty when in reality they are just ruining the game.
The game state as a whole is bad and arena has gone in quality too sadly. You might as well consider it another trash can like wild. It’s a dead mode that Blizzard and most major hearthstone sites / source don’t care about anymore. You’ll probably get a few people saying “arena in 2020 lol”.
Personally I like that arena sets are changing every few months. It makes arena more different every expansion and this way you won't see the same cards for years and I don't need to know exactly which cards are in the current pool, but that's probably because I don't play arena much and also not very seriously. I understand you don't like always having to check which cards are in the pool and which aren't.
But please don't go complaining about having to think for yourself. What's the fun in just blindly picking the class and cards the other resources tell you to pick? Seriously, if you can't choose from 3 cards which one is likely the best or best fits in your deck yourself, you don't deserve to get lots of wins.
I do agree too many people who think they're cool link the salt thread when they haven't even read the actual comment but just the title of the thread.. Often discussion gets mixed up with rant.
The game state of arena is certainly not bad though, at least not worse than it always was. Arena is mostly just dying because there's other modes now. People play Battlegrounds now instead of arena.
Just not so long ago I used to get good quality cards as warlock, mage, hunter and shaman. Now I mostly get poor quality class cards or bad neutral class. Like I used to draft 3 to 4 eyes of the storm as shaman, now i hardly get to draft one. As mage it's so hard to have any card generation and as warlock i rarely get the 2/2 dude that gives you lackeys or any other value generators. I understand they had to nerf priest because it was getting too much value in arena, but other classes weren't like that. Now i'm on a losing streak with almost 10 arenas in a row with very poor quality decks. And before that everything was going fine in terms of card value. The only good value class now seems to be paladin and warrior if you get lucky.
It’s gotten bad. I really wish they hadn’t gone to the new system. It seems like a lot of major information resources for hearthstone don’t really track arena anymore apart from giving a tier list or cards like hearth arena. I find it difficult to know what classes are good during each new expansion. It was a game mode I used to take advantage of to make gold since I could get decent and even good runs consistently. Something had to be done a while back since the card Pool was getting huge but this new random sets system apart from the last few expansions is more annoying than actually fun.
There’s no way to know what cards are in the pool anymore. You can google sets but to my knowledge there is no resource that ranks the best classes at any give time, or even gives a top class list. I haven’t been able to find a card list for any meta of arena in the last several months. You can find out what sets but it’s a major pain in the ass to pull up pages that show one expansion worth of cards at a time.
I wouldn’t dismiss anything you say as being salty . It’s a major problem with a lot of the people here and the salt thread actually adds fuel to the fire. A lot of genuine criticism or pointing out problems with the game probably gets lost because half of the community here just labels you as tilted and directs you to the salt thread, followed by the mods shutting down posts. It’s a pretty snobby community anymore thats a lot of people who get off on making people angry by playing some of the worst decks in the format. Just so they can laugh and call you salty when in reality they are just ruining the game.
The game state as a whole is bad and arena has gone in quality too sadly. You might as well consider it another trash can like wild. It’s a dead mode that Blizzard and most major hearthstone sites / source don’t care about anymore. You’ll probably get a few people saying “arena in 2020 lol”.
Thanks for the reply. However, i don't see how ruining arena benefits game. For many players it's a source of gold income. Unless they want people to stop enjoying arena and thus getting a solid source of gold income. It's just no fun to play with just vanilla cards in Arena.
are u guys kidding? i DRAFT INSANE decks and i get destroyed at 3/0 or or 3/1 from MORE INSANE decks
with decks that are supoosed to go 12 wins or even 10 i do 7 wins,or sometimes with that matchups i do 3 or 4
warriors are an asbolute joke on arena,extremely good card quality
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dude hsreplay shows real stats of standard wild and arena,it shows cards,for everysingle class,the winrate the pickrate the play rate ,
know your stuff before u go whining like that
First of all is Arena has bad cards then that applies to all players, so nothing changes w.r.t. the gold-earning potential. Secondly I think the Arena is as strong as it has ever been lately. Former auto-picks like Yeti are borderline mediocre currently. Also, HSReplay stats are a pretty good indicator of the relative strength of each class (although I don't believe Hunter is top2 - I always draft horribly when I pick Hunter). Maybe you had a few unlucky drafts, can happen to anyone
IMO it went that way when they removed Arena buckets. The pure RNG method doesn't work very well. You can either pull absolute BS or absolute garbage, nothing to guarantee inbetween
Personally I like that arena sets are changing every few months. It makes arena more different every expansion and this way you won't see the same cards for years and I don't need to know exactly which cards are in the current pool, but that's probably because I don't play arena much and also not very seriously. I understand you don't like always having to check which cards are in the pool and which aren't.
But please don't go complaining about having to think for yourself. What's the fun in just blindly picking the class and cards the other resources tell you to pick? Seriously, if you can't choose from 3 cards which one is likely the best or best fits in your deck yourself, you don't deserve to get lots of wins.
I do agree too many people who think they're cool link the salt thread when they haven't even read the actual comment but just the title of the thread.. Often discussion gets mixed up with rant.
The game state of arena is certainly not bad though, at least not worse than it always was. Arena is mostly just dying because there's other modes now. People play Battlegrounds now instead of arena.
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I've noticed a lot less Dragonqueen Alextrasza and Twin Tyrants randomly showing up and swinging games lately in arena.
Well, somehow it doesn't work for me. Recently i keep losing to twin tyrants and DQ exclusively.
Everything else but fun right now.
I was able to sneak in 12 Wins with Paladin, but most of the time I get rekt by the craziest decks early in my run.
I have the feeling, if you're not able to draft certain power creep cards, you can almost instant retire the deck.
When the bucket system was active, at least for me, I was able to get something done with a mediocre deck, like six or seven wins. But not nowadays.
Definitely not my arena meta.
Nope.
on one thing i agree is that twin tyrant is an absolute arena destroyer card