Sorry for the salty post but I would like to know if it's only me or even you feel frustrated to play against that f*cking class. It's unbelieveble how strong became the priest with this patch, It has like 99999 removal, a lot of card generator, card stealing. I started to concede everytime I meet one because I lose even with a perfect hand and card drawing.
I believe priest in its current form is bad for the game. It is not because it is overpowered. Rogue, hunter and DH are all favoured. However, priest is frustrating to play against. The games are often very long. You can't play around many of their cards because they get random cards. It also makes many control decks unplayable. Control is already unplayable because aggro DH is too good vs control decks when it has no right to be but priest further knocks them out of the meta. Many control decks perform very poorly vs priest because priest has unlimited resources. There really isn't any neutrals that can compete. Even if you can play ysera and it sticks for a turn, the priest is bound to discover something to deal with it, such as natalie. Or they just copy it through various means. Even if you play some control deck with archivist vs priest they tend to just be able to get your archivist at some point, usually though madam luzul because you have to keep it in your hand until the end.
Priest would be more palatable if the weaker classes had something strong to play at the end game. Paladin has a stupid 4/12 restore both players to full life. It needed something better and useful that gives immediate value such as a new hero like the galakrond classes (maybe something which works with librams, like turning paladin into ragnaros the lightlord and that having some useful effect). For warlock jarraxus needs to cost 8 mana so you can at least play a 6/6 on the same turn, in compensation for how bad having 15hp max life is, otherwise it should cost 10 mana and silence and destroy all minions. Al akir the windlord is pretty bad too for shaman. They have galakrond though but they need something powerful to play in the end game too that has an immediate effect on the board state.
One buff I would like to see for paladin would be to give its murlocs off the prime rush in addition to the divine shield. I don't think that will make librams playable since the deck needs more card draw but it would be a step in the right direction. Other primes have immediate effects on the board (mage, warrior, druid and hunter). The rogue prime is weak and so is the priest one though. The warlock prime is only weak because the warlock demons are lackluster right now. The warlock prime could be very over powered or at least an auto include in future expansions if it had better demons in standard (imagine if warlock had priestess of fury and a charge demon still?).
I don't know about how bad playing vs priest, it's completly your opinion, but about balance, priest has 1 tier 3 deck, other are tier 4. And if blizz not nerfed dh, rogue and hunt yesterday, he would be worse and acompany to pal and sham soon. Still, very weak, problem with priest is the same - no win condition, i don t know, how blizzard can print a lot of new cards, reworking class, but still not printing win condition for the priest in base kit. Only shadowripper anduin with raza has win condition and they are in wild. Yes, inner fire combo a thing, but it's weak now.
I believe priest in its current form is bad for the game. It is not because it is overpowered. Rogue, hunter and DH are all favoured. However, priest is frustrating to play against. The games are often very long. You can't play around many of their cards because they get random cards. It also makes many control decks unplayable. Control is already unplayable because aggro DH is too good vs control decks when it has no right to be but priest further knocks them out of the meta. Many control decks perform very poorly vs priest because priest has unlimited resources. There really isn't any neutrals that can compete. Even if you can play ysera and it sticks for a turn, the priest is bound to discover something to deal with it, such as natalie. Or they just copy it through various means. Even if you play some control deck with archivist vs priest they tend to just be able to get your archivist at some point, usually though madam luzul because you have to keep it in your hand until the end.
Priest would be more palatable if the weaker classes had something strong to play at the end game. Paladin has a stupid 4/12 restore both players to full life. It needed something better and useful that gives immediate value such as a new hero like the galakrond classes (maybe something which works with librams, like turning paladin into ragnaros the lightlord and that having some useful effect). For warlock jarraxus needs to cost 8 mana so you can at least play a 6/6 on the same turn, in compensation for how bad having 15hp max life is, otherwise it should cost 10 mana and silence and destroy all minions. Al akir the windlord is pretty bad too for shaman. They have galakrond though but they need something powerful to play in the end game too that has an immediate effect on the board state.
One buff I would like to see for paladin would be to give its murlocs off the prime rush in addition to the divine shield. I don't think that will make librams playable since the deck needs more card draw but it would be a step in the right direction. Other primes have immediate effects on the board (mage, warrior, druid and hunter). The rogue prime is weak and so is the priest one though. The warlock prime is only weak because the warlock demons are lackluster right now. The warlock prime could be very over powered or at least an auto include in future expansions if it had better demons in standard (imagine if warlock had priestess of fury and a charge demon still?).
The thing is Priest always hardcountered every other control class that doesnt have a finisher.
I play Control/Midrange Paladin since 2k14 with 12k wins and Priest was always this frustrating to play against (except when they had a midrange Dragon version during Karazhan). The whole class is extremely polarizing since they always had tools to steal or multiply value . People simply didnt complained much about Priest because OTK versions ousted their classic "steal-heal-gain value-tool kit", or the class was simply not competitive enough compared to other decks.
Maybe Blizzard wants only Priests to be that super Lategame class that can go to fatuige, while everyting else (also Libram Palaidn) has to take some midrange approach.
I would like to know your rank, couse that comment is complete bs. Play Highlander Hunter and you might win against a priest or two(not guaranteed tho). Outside of that you'll get farmed by other tier 1 decks like Warriors/DHs.
Made rank 5 Diamond today. Been playing Galakrond Priest of some sort or other all month. HIghlander Hunter is about as close to a guaranteed loss as it comes.
U think priest has ultimate value. Nah. It's the rogue when it's not suppose to be. Priest are suppose to be controlly. Rogues are ultimate value great tempo and good control class with saps flik and stunner.
I would like to know your rank, couse that comment is complete bs. Play Highlander Hunter and you might win against a priest or two(not guaranteed tho). Outside of that you'll get farmed by other tier 1 decks like Warriors/DHs.
Umm... Highlander Hunter and Dragon Hunter are 2 of the 4 or 5 Tier 1 decks right now... HL Hunter is actually sitting at #1 right now, so I would like to know your rank, because if you're getting farmed with the top deck...
That's according to Metabomb, HSReplay, and Hearthstonetopdecks update 2 days ago, TempoStorm gives a completely different report..
Sorry for the salty post but I would like to know if it's only me or even you feel frustrated to play against that f*cking class. It's unbelieveble how strong became the priest with this patch, It has like 99999 removal, a lot of card generator, card stealing. I started to concede everytime I meet one because I lose even with a perfect hand and card drawing.
Not really, the only thing that priests can do is outvalue you, you can rush them down with any zoo type or aggro deck, you can out tempo them easily mid game, and you can out control them with the real bs deck aka galakrond rogue+togg scheme
Sure if you follow hsreplay you could also see those stats are for bronze-gold ranks, at higher ranks gala priest is way better and definitely a strong deck.
Playing against priest is the worst feeling in this game. It is not that they are strong but they are annoying as fck. I feel like only sadists love to play priest no joke.
You guys complaining at a time when Gala is the primary Priest deck you face. At least Gala Priest plays some card every turn, interacts with the board etc...1-2 months ago all Priests were playing the Resurrect deck, that was horrible indeed. They would ignore you fully and just play pass-pass-pass-turn 4 Vargoth-turn 5 Infiltrator, then some Psychopomp and Grave Run shit and when you manage finally to kill their whole board they cast Mass Resurrection which brings back Vargoth who casts it again and they get a board of 2 Vargoths and 5 Infiltrators or something like that
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Sorry for the salty post but I would like to know if it's only me or even you feel frustrated to play against that f*cking class. It's unbelieveble how strong became the priest with this patch, It has like 99999 removal, a lot of card generator, card stealing. I started to concede everytime I meet one because I lose even with a perfect hand and card drawing.
Best Priest deck right now is Tier 3.
Frustrating to play against? Maybe.
Strong? Absolutely not.
Play HIghlander Hunter and enjoy the free wins.
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I believe priest in its current form is bad for the game. It is not because it is overpowered. Rogue, hunter and DH are all favoured. However, priest is frustrating to play against. The games are often very long. You can't play around many of their cards because they get random cards. It also makes many control decks unplayable. Control is already unplayable because aggro DH is too good vs control decks when it has no right to be but priest further knocks them out of the meta. Many control decks perform very poorly vs priest because priest has unlimited resources. There really isn't any neutrals that can compete. Even if you can play ysera and it sticks for a turn, the priest is bound to discover something to deal with it, such as natalie. Or they just copy it through various means. Even if you play some control deck with archivist vs priest they tend to just be able to get your archivist at some point, usually though madam luzul because you have to keep it in your hand until the end.
Priest would be more palatable if the weaker classes had something strong to play at the end game. Paladin has a stupid 4/12 restore both players to full life. It needed something better and useful that gives immediate value such as a new hero like the galakrond classes (maybe something which works with librams, like turning paladin into ragnaros the lightlord and that having some useful effect). For warlock jarraxus needs to cost 8 mana so you can at least play a 6/6 on the same turn, in compensation for how bad having 15hp max life is, otherwise it should cost 10 mana and silence and destroy all minions. Al akir the windlord is pretty bad too for shaman. They have galakrond though but they need something powerful to play in the end game too that has an immediate effect on the board state.
One buff I would like to see for paladin would be to give its murlocs off the prime rush in addition to the divine shield. I don't think that will make librams playable since the deck needs more card draw but it would be a step in the right direction. Other primes have immediate effects on the board (mage, warrior, druid and hunter). The rogue prime is weak and so is the priest one though. The warlock prime is only weak because the warlock demons are lackluster right now. The warlock prime could be very over powered or at least an auto include in future expansions if it had better demons in standard (imagine if warlock had priestess of fury and a charge demon still?).
I don't know about how bad playing vs priest, it's completly your opinion, but about balance, priest has 1 tier 3 deck, other are tier 4. And if blizz not nerfed dh, rogue and hunt yesterday, he would be worse and acompany to pal and sham soon. Still, very weak, problem with priest is the same - no win condition, i don t know, how blizzard can print a lot of new cards, reworking class, but still not printing win condition for the priest in base kit. Only shadowripper anduin with raza has win condition and they are in wild. Yes, inner fire combo a thing, but it's weak now.
How many languages are you fluent in?
You shouldn't expect everyone on the internet to be fluent in English
The thing is Priest always hardcountered every other control class that doesnt have a finisher.
I play Control/Midrange Paladin since 2k14 with 12k wins and Priest was always this frustrating to play against (except when they had a midrange Dragon version during Karazhan). The whole class is extremely polarizing since they always had tools to steal or multiply value . People simply didnt complained much about Priest because OTK versions ousted their classic "steal-heal-gain value-tool kit", or the class was simply not competitive enough compared to other decks.
Maybe Blizzard wants only Priests to be that super Lategame class that can go to fatuige, while everyting else (also Libram Palaidn) has to take some midrange approach.
I agree priest sucks to play against
I would like to know your rank, couse that comment is complete bs. Play Highlander Hunter and you might win against a priest or two(not guaranteed tho). Outside of that you'll get farmed by other tier 1 decks like Warriors/DHs.
Made rank 5 Diamond today. Been playing Galakrond Priest of some sort or other all month. HIghlander Hunter is about as close to a guaranteed loss as it comes.
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U think priest has ultimate value. Nah. It's the rogue when it's not suppose to be. Priest are suppose to be controlly. Rogues are ultimate value great tempo and good control class with saps flik and stunner.
Umm... Highlander Hunter and Dragon Hunter are 2 of the 4 or 5 Tier 1 decks right now... HL Hunter is actually sitting at #1 right now, so I would like to know your rank, because if you're getting farmed with the top deck...
That's according to Metabomb, HSReplay, and Hearthstonetopdecks update 2 days ago, TempoStorm gives a completely different report..
no, but its okay to help him get better. the headline is actually hard to read.
also you should write "You Can't except..." - that is more correct :p
Not really, the only thing that priests can do is outvalue you, you can rush them down with any zoo type or aggro deck, you can out tempo them easily mid game, and you can out control them with the real bs deck aka galakrond rogue+togg scheme
Are you being ironic?
No, the only correct thing about the topic is that he uses "an".
also you it is correct to use can't in the phases he tired to formulate
"You can't except"?!?
Did you mean:
You can't expect
You can't accept
Or,
You can't, except....
One of those 3 could work, but there is nothing correct about what you wrote...
Sure if you follow hsreplay you could also see those stats are for bronze-gold ranks, at higher ranks gala priest is way better and definitely a strong deck.
Playing against priest is the worst feeling in this game. It is not that they are strong but they are annoying as fck. I feel like only sadists love to play priest no joke.
You guys complaining at a time when Gala is the primary Priest deck you face. At least Gala Priest plays some card every turn, interacts with the board etc...1-2 months ago all Priests were playing the Resurrect deck, that was horrible indeed. They would ignore you fully and just play pass-pass-pass-turn 4 Vargoth-turn 5 Infiltrator, then some Psychopomp and Grave Run shit and when you manage finally to kill their whole board they cast Mass Resurrection which brings back Vargoth who casts it again and they get a board of 2 Vargoths and 5 Infiltrators or something like that