I don't get that deck, its bad for me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I doubt it. It just kinda does a lot but does nothing well.
What? It controls the board EXTREMELY well, and it does a pretty damn good job of developing one of its own. It has a very good and clear game plan as well. Control early, develop mid, overpower late.
The galakrond minions, leading into galakrond himself, are great board presence. And then they close the game out with zeph and either Alex.
It was a phenomenal deck before the sac pact change and it still is now. Has no matchups that are unwinnable.
I don't get that deck, its bad for me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I doubt it. It just kinda does a lot but does nothing well.
Well then you should reevaluate what you are doing. The deck is really strong. I would say it had a really good matchup against Demon Hunter though, and when there are fewer of those it does a little bit worse.
I wouldt say its clearly the best deck, that is debateable, but defenetly tier one or at worst one of the best tier 2
Well, Sacrificial Pact was also played to regain life by killing your own imp. But he still has Plague of Flames to kill those Demon Hunter demons. It loses a great removal warlock but is still playable.
Personally I find the deck bad because Galakrond could summon the sleeping demons, I think his win codition is based a lot on Zep and the new Alexstraza.
Well, Sacrificial Pact was also played to regain life by killing your own imp. But he still has Plague of Flames to kill those Demon Hunter demons. It loses a great removal warlock but is still playable.
Personally I find the deck bad because Galakrond could summon the sleeping demons, I think his win codition is based a lot on Zep and the new Alexstraza.
Actually you sometimes want to get Dormant demons to dodge big board clears
Secret Roque is on the rise and took Warlocks spot as the 2nd best deck, besides that nothing changed
This has little to do with the Sac Pact nerf, but more that Roques just seemingly never get nerfed and since they are Tempo based themselfs are obviously the biggest winners from DH's nerfs.
Secret Roque is on the rise and took Warlocks spot as the 2nd best deck, besides that nothing changed
This has little to do with the Sac Pact nerf, but more that Roques just seemingly never get nerfed and since they are Tempo based themselfs are obviously the biggest winners from DH's nerfs.
Which is actually rather interesting because the faster tempo DH still crushes rogue.
Hard to tell yet. HSR has reset stats recently, so we must wait untill new meta emerges. At the moment Warlock seems to be one of the three worst classes in the game (winrate around 48%) but it doesn't mean much, it's too early.
Well, there certainly have been less Gala Warlocks on the ladder today than before the nerfs. At least that's what I experianced. I think people will gradually switch to playing other classes. I'll give you some stats that I remember from my games today. So, I played around 15 games I think (Diamond 3 - Legend). Seen Gala Warlock only once, but the opponent was running a weird list with some Zoo and big Demon elements, so I defeated him pretty easily. Around 5 games were against DH and basically I don't see much of a difference here. Basically people play the same decks and don't even care about the changes. Surprisingly I've seen a lot of different Hunters. There was one Highlander Hunter, one Dragon Hunter and 3 Face Hunters. No Paladin btw. I saw Shaman once - Evolve Shaman (he kicked my ass...). There was one Mage, but well, the class is in a weak spot. No Druids. Two of these Hybrid Warriors, both defeated easily. I have been playing my own Highlander Hunter list and a bit of spell Mage and Tempo DH, if anyone's wondering.
In summary, I don't think that Sac nerf is very significant, but it turns out that people are trying to avoid running it now.
Edit: I don't know why Rogue is on 1st place in winrate... From all of my 3 games against the class today I won all of them. The secrets are very easy to play around. I even used opponents Bamboozle to prank him once, because I attacked his big taunt with a small minion and the taunt turned into something useless, which gave me lethal ;P
any oppinions? i was going to craft it, is it still that strong after nerfs? wasnt that bad? or got hit hard?
How do you expect a proper answer to that one day after the nerfs? Ever heard about meta that needs to settle? Never craft anything the first week after a patch like this... that's the only reasonable answer you'll get here
Secret Roque is on the rise and took Warlocks spot as the 2nd best deck, besides that nothing changed
This has little to do with the Sac Pact nerf, but more that Roques just seemingly never get nerfed and since they are Tempo based themselfs are obviously the biggest winners from DH's nerfs.
Then why is my Secret Rogue getting wrecked by DHs all day and night since the DH "nerfs"?? Do you even play ladder? Just faced 3 DHs in a row with my Rogue and got absolutely shit stomped. Rogue can only deal with their boards with Zeph and perfect draws.
any oppinions? i was going to craft it, is it still that strong after nerfs? wasnt that bad? or got hit hard?
Gala warlock is basically the same power house as it was.
It just a bit weaker VS DH as it lost pact
I don't get that deck, its bad for me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I doubt it. It just kinda does a lot but does nothing well.
What? It controls the board EXTREMELY well, and it does a pretty damn good job of developing one of its own. It has a very good and clear game plan as well. Control early, develop mid, overpower late.
The galakrond minions, leading into galakrond himself, are great board presence. And then they close the game out with zeph and either Alex.
It was a phenomenal deck before the sac pact change and it still is now. Has no matchups that are unwinnable.
Well then you should reevaluate what you are doing. The deck is really strong. I would say it had a really good matchup against Demon Hunter though, and when there are fewer of those it does a little bit worse.
I wouldt say its clearly the best deck, that is debateable, but defenetly tier one or at worst one of the best tier 2
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Well, Sacrificial Pact was also played to regain life by killing your own imp. But he still has Plague of Flames to kill those Demon Hunter demons. It loses a great removal warlock but is still playable.
Personally I find the deck bad because Galakrond could summon the sleeping demons, I think his win codition is based a lot on Zep and the new Alexstraza.
Actually you sometimes want to get Dormant demons to dodge big board clears
Secret Roque is on the rise and took Warlocks spot as the 2nd best deck, besides that nothing changed
This has little to do with the Sac Pact nerf, but more that Roques just seemingly never get nerfed and since they are Tempo based themselfs are obviously the biggest winners from DH's nerfs.
Which is actually rather interesting because the faster tempo DH still crushes rogue.
Preparation: am i a joke to you?
do you still run albatross?
And that is where you are wrong.
They do. It's really too good of a heal, if you generate 1/1s so easily.
Hard to tell yet. HSR has reset stats recently, so we must wait untill new meta emerges. At the moment Warlock seems to be one of the three worst classes in the game (winrate around 48%) but it doesn't mean much, it's too early.
Well, there certainly have been less Gala Warlocks on the ladder today than before the nerfs. At least that's what I experianced. I think people will gradually switch to playing other classes. I'll give you some stats that I remember from my games today. So, I played around 15 games I think (Diamond 3 - Legend). Seen Gala Warlock only once, but the opponent was running a weird list with some Zoo and big Demon elements, so I defeated him pretty easily. Around 5 games were against DH and basically I don't see much of a difference here. Basically people play the same decks and don't even care about the changes. Surprisingly I've seen a lot of different Hunters. There was one Highlander Hunter, one Dragon Hunter and 3 Face Hunters. No Paladin btw. I saw Shaman once - Evolve Shaman (he kicked my ass...). There was one Mage, but well, the class is in a weak spot. No Druids. Two of these Hybrid Warriors, both defeated easily. I have been playing my own Highlander Hunter list and a bit of spell Mage and Tempo DH, if anyone's wondering.
In summary, I don't think that Sac nerf is very significant, but it turns out that people are trying to avoid running it now.
Edit: I don't know why Rogue is on 1st place in winrate... From all of my 3 games against the class today I won all of them. The secrets are very easy to play around. I even used opponents Bamboozle to prank him once, because I attacked his big taunt with a small minion and the taunt turned into something useless, which gave me lethal ;P
How do you expect a proper answer to that one day after the nerfs? Ever heard about meta that needs to settle? Never craft anything the first week after a patch like this... that's the only reasonable answer you'll get here
Then why is my Secret Rogue getting wrecked by DHs all day and night since the DH "nerfs"?? Do you even play ladder? Just faced 3 DHs in a row with my Rogue and got absolutely shit stomped. Rogue can only deal with their boards with Zeph and perfect draws.