So, Warsong Commander no longer gives charge to buffed Bloodsail Raiders, but it still works on buffed Frothing Berserkers. Anybody know why Blizzard did this? Apparently it was a bug?
Probably because Bloodsail Raiders get buffed when played from the hand, making them a 6/3 for example. The Frothing Berserkers are 2/4's when they enter the board.
A welcome change, IMO. And understandable given their stance on OTKs.
Strange that they didn't make any announcement about it though. It's a pretty hefty nerf, even if it is technically a change to the game rules rather than to Warsong Commander's text.
Yeah, but that doesn't say how they actually intend WC to work...guess we'll just have to wait and see! I hope they keep the functionality with Bloodsail Raiders...it wasn't overpowered, because you needed 3 cards to make it work (weapon, wc, raiders), enough mana to pull it off, and no big taunts on the board. Pirates won't be viable in warrior without it, imo.
(Quick Side Note: I know about the confirmed bug of Warsong Commander. This is slightly different than the confirmed bug of deathrattle tokens not gaining charge. Maybe they are one and the same but Blizzard has only confirmed that deathrattle minions arent gaining charge)
And why its not in the patch notes? Was it a glitch before? Is it glitched now? Is it going to go back or remain this way?
If you dont know what I'm talking about, here is the situation:
It used to be that any buffs on the field didnt apply to the creature until AFTER it was summoned. So for instance, Bloodsail Raider would gain charge regardless of its attack after the battlecry. Minions of 3 attack played to a field with a Raid Leader or Stormwind Champion, Murloc Warleader next to Grimscale Oracle, etc etc. They all used to gain charge and currently arent. Its kind of a bummer for my casual mode decks.
What!? That would make war song commander even shitier tier .She used to be at least worth it for the weapon->warsong+ blood sail raider combo...And people still didn't use her. Unnecessary nerf is unnecessary.
Since battlecry happens before any other applied effect when a minion is summoned, tinkertown technician receives his buff then warsong commander checks him for 3 attack. It's not a bug, but it's not necessarily intuitive either.
I would think it was a bug, because when you play Bloodsail Raider + weapon, she gets the charge, regardless of the buff. So unless it's like the above poster was saying, that the technician gets buffed before her check, then I would think it's a bug.
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So, Warsong Commander no longer gives charge to buffed Bloodsail Raiders, but it still works on buffed Frothing Berserkers. Anybody know why Blizzard did this? Apparently it was a bug?
It looks like they changed the way that buffs on summon are applied.
Seems that now, minions that buff themselves do so before other minions (warsong) has a chance to effect them.
Probably because Bloodsail Raiders get buffed when played from the hand, making them a 6/3 for example. The Frothing Berserkers are 2/4's when they enter the board.
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Disappointing to say the least. Makes pirate warrior a bit less viable.
A welcome change, IMO. And understandable given their stance on OTKs.
Strange that they didn't make any announcement about it though. It's a pretty hefty nerf, even if it is technically a change to the game rules rather than to Warsong Commander's text.
They've confirmed that Warsong Commander is currently bugged here. :/
Yeah, but that doesn't say how they actually intend WC to work...guess we'll just have to wait and see! I hope they keep the functionality with Bloodsail Raiders...it wasn't overpowered, because you needed 3 cards to make it work (weapon, wc, raiders), enough mana to pull it off, and no big taunts on the board. Pirates won't be viable in warrior without it, imo.
(Quick Side Note: I know about the confirmed bug of Warsong Commander. This is slightly different than the confirmed bug of deathrattle tokens not gaining charge. Maybe they are one and the same but Blizzard has only confirmed that deathrattle minions arent gaining charge)
And why its not in the patch notes? Was it a glitch before? Is it glitched now? Is it going to go back or remain this way?
If you dont know what I'm talking about, here is the situation:
It used to be that any buffs on the field didnt apply to the creature until AFTER it was summoned. So for instance, Bloodsail Raider would gain charge regardless of its attack after the battlecry. Minions of 3 attack played to a field with a Raid Leader or Stormwind Champion, Murloc Warleader next to Grimscale Oracle, etc etc. They all used to gain charge and currently arent. Its kind of a bummer for my casual mode decks.
They made a blue post stating it was a bug they are working on resolving. They aren't sure what caused it but they know its there.
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What!? That would make war song commander even shitier tier .She used to be at least worth it for the weapon->warsong+ blood sail raider combo...And people still didn't use her. Unnecessary nerf is unnecessary.
again, it wasn't an intentional nerf, its more of a bug or error they are trying to fix.
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i think the deathrattle minions shouldnt get charge anyway, the card says when a minion is SUMMONED.
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Summoning is when a minion is put into play by any means. Play is when you play it from your hand.
i wish the other pally minion was a warsong commander mech instead of a shitty 5 drop
I just lost 2 games because Warsong Commander's effect was't working properly. I love the Warsong Commander + Knife Juggler + Haunted Creeper combo to deal a lot of damage but now??????
You know Druids receive no love when there are Recycle and Entomb.
Additionally, have they talked about what interactions it has with other cards that they may have changed?
So just for the lols, I was playing murloc warrior and I put down Warsong Commander and Murloc Tidehunter, but the Murloc Scout didn't receive charge :/ halp?
No charge on tinkertech when he got buffed?? is this bug or not? (or is this a known issue?)
Since battlecry happens before any other applied effect when a minion is summoned, tinkertown technician receives his buff then warsong commander checks him for 3 attack. It's not a bug, but it's not necessarily intuitive either.
I would think it was a bug, because when you play Bloodsail Raider + weapon, she gets the charge, regardless of the buff. So unless it's like the above poster was saying, that the technician gets buffed before her check, then I would think it's a bug.