Pretty good suggestions but you can't make battlefiend cost 2 mana without buffing anything. Your 2 mana battlefiend is unplayable. I think if they changed the text to read "After your hero attacks gain +1 attack this turn." that would be fine.
Pretty good suggestions but you can't make battlefiend cost 2 mana without buffing anything. Your 2 mana battlefiend is unplayable. I think if they changed the text to read "After your hero attacks gain +1 attack this turn." that would be fine.
True or make it 1 attack instead of 2 so it stops the stupid pressure damage at the start of the game.
Everything you've suggested is excellent. It really pisses me off that Blizzard released these broken cards at all. How could they not have known what would happen?
I really hope they don't nerf everything to the ground. The pure combo DH list is the most fun I've had in HS in a while, it gives me VERY strong Miracle Rogue vibes and that was my favorite deck ever. I'd be happy if they nerf just priestess and antaen since combo doesn't even use those lol.
Dean Ayala suggested there could be some changes soon enough in arena related to the DH class.
Maybe that's because it's the place where it clearly shows up how they messed it all up with card rarities. Can you believe all the aforementioned cards are common or rare? Must be lovely encountering all those DH in arena with their 4 priestess of fury, right?
The biggest problem is that all DH cards are pretty strong, so you can basically string together any 30 class cards, and have a good deck. Meanwhile every other class is trying to meme is way into wins. 18 hours ago, I was getting annoyed losing to DH, but I'm already starting to get comfortable with a few decks, and my DH loss rate has plummeted. I think once people get used to playing against it, and the novelty wears off, it won't need nerds.
They run out of steam really fast, and you really only have to deal with about 6 cards in their deck before they're finished.
This is all just week 1 panic. It will wear off. They have released much more oppressive decks in the past. Everyone who is freaking out either have very short memories, or are fairly new to the game
I'm doing really well with no minion Mage, and Deathrattle Hunter... I've heard others are doing well with Druid and Priest.
This happens every rotation, without exception. Galakrond Shaman, Bomb Warrior, on and on...
People were given most of these DH cards for free,.. Anyone who has 30 packs and enough to craft Metamorphosis can have a powerful deck (I haven't seen Kayn Sunfury used as a win condition yet, so I'd argue it's unnecessary).
Anytime Bilzzard releases a powerful, cheap deck... It will inevitably flood the meta... I'll guarantee, in less than 2 weeks, DH winrate will drop down to much closer than 50% without nerfs. If they nerf it more than just a bit, it will be unplayable within a month.
If you're having trouble, take it as a challenge. I promise you, there are several decks out there with 50%+ win rates vs DH that you can make your own variances on.
If your mad because "your deck" can't beat it, then ultimately you're playing the game wrong. "Your deck" will never beat the top meta decks, unless one expansion it becomes a top meta deck, and then people will be complaining about "your deck".
Have a little patience, and try different things. They'll probably make some minor tweaks to DH... There's no way they can run tests on a deck that can compare to when 90% of players start using it. You can only find those statistics when they happen, so I'm sure they'll make necessary adjustments.
Use this time to learn to crack Demon Hunter at it's prime, and in a couple weeks, you'll never lose to them again.
All of the uproar and outrage is just completely unnecessary. It's like throwing a tantrum because Baskin Robbins changed your favorite ice cream flavor. It's been less than 24 hours. Give it a chance.
The only people who try and defend this degenerate nonsense are of course, DH players who dont want their degenerate deck nerfed. They might actually have to think! We understand that it's a new class but DH as a class hasn't earned any of this! DH shouldn't be op right out of the gate, DH should be rewarded by sticking to the class. This is exactly why the old team was against new classes
EVERYBODY PLAYS DEMON HUNTER BECAUSE IT'S A NEW CLASS. Of course it will have better winrates, if everyone is playing it lol. It hasn't even been 24 hours since the rotation and some of you are already losing your minds about something that will balance itself once people start playing other decks. Sheesh! You're a bunch of crybabies...
Of course it will have better winrates, if everyone is playing it lol.
Thats not how the math works, if I understand how they calculate it correctly, unless more people playing demon hunters uses the deck tracker than others.
Every time a deck wins another must loose, so the average win rate of all decks should be 50% per matches played.
Please explain how hsreplay calculated it, if I am wrong, if so t0nlpilS might have a point ;-)
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Hi. These are my nerf suggestions to blizzard. It reduces the powerlevel of DH while still playable.
Feedback is welcome :)
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Pretty good suggestions but you can't make battlefiend cost 2 mana without buffing anything. Your 2 mana battlefiend is unplayable. I think if they changed the text to read "After your hero attacks gain +1 attack this turn." that would be fine.
True or make it 1 attack instead of 2 so it stops the stupid pressure damage at the start of the game.
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everyone playing this fucking crap.
In my opinion, (and I am a rogue player), there is no need for DH nerfs. Win rate is high yes, but:
1) It is a new class, everybody are playing this class (so, data are strange)
2) It is not overpowered, it is good, if you use it in wild you will see that this class is not remotely broken as Mage, Warlock or Priest
In conclusion, it is fine in this way. After 2/3 weeks the win rate will be much lower due to class diversification.
For these reasons, your nerfs sucks.
Everything you've suggested is excellent. It really pisses me off that Blizzard released these broken cards at all. How could they not have known what would happen?
Lol one day.
I really hope they don't nerf everything to the ground. The pure combo DH list is the most fun I've had in HS in a while, it gives me VERY strong Miracle Rogue vibes and that was my favorite deck ever. I'd be happy if they nerf just priestess and antaen since combo doesn't even use those lol.
Day 2 of the expansion: HURR DURR :'( NERF DEEMON HUNTEERR BLISSAAART!!!!!! :'((
Classic HearthPwn! I applaud you!
PS: Demon Hunter can be replaced by any other class / card. Have a nice day!
"A bargain forged in blood and shadow"
Dean Ayala suggested there could be some changes soon enough in arena related to the DH class.
Maybe that's because it's the place where it clearly shows up how they messed it all up with card rarities. Can you believe all the aforementioned cards are common or rare? Must be lovely encountering all those DH in arena with their 4 priestess of fury, right?
Doesn’t need a nerf, all of those cards are fine and balanced. I’m having an absolute blast playing DH today.
yea try playing something else than Dh then come back ...
I don't have graphic edit skills, but would suggest a change to Wrathscale Naga, so it only does 2 damage per minion killed.
You have literally no clue what you're talking about.
The biggest problem is that all DH cards are pretty strong, so you can basically string together any 30 class cards, and have a good deck. Meanwhile every other class is trying to meme is way into wins. 18 hours ago, I was getting annoyed losing to DH, but I'm already starting to get comfortable with a few decks, and my DH loss rate has plummeted. I think once people get used to playing against it, and the novelty wears off, it won't need nerds.
They run out of steam really fast, and you really only have to deal with about 6 cards in their deck before they're finished.
This is all just week 1 panic. It will wear off. They have released much more oppressive decks in the past. Everyone who is freaking out either have very short memories, or are fairly new to the game
I'm doing really well with no minion Mage, and Deathrattle Hunter... I've heard others are doing well with Druid and Priest.
This happens every rotation, without exception. Galakrond Shaman, Bomb Warrior, on and on...
People were given most of these DH cards for free,.. Anyone who has 30 packs and enough to craft Metamorphosis can have a powerful deck (I haven't seen Kayn Sunfury used as a win condition yet, so I'd argue it's unnecessary).
Anytime Bilzzard releases a powerful, cheap deck... It will inevitably flood the meta... I'll guarantee, in less than 2 weeks, DH winrate will drop down to much closer than 50% without nerfs. If they nerf it more than just a bit, it will be unplayable within a month.
If you're having trouble, take it as a challenge. I promise you, there are several decks out there with 50%+ win rates vs DH that you can make your own variances on.
If your mad because "your deck" can't beat it, then ultimately you're playing the game wrong. "Your deck" will never beat the top meta decks, unless one expansion it becomes a top meta deck, and then people will be complaining about "your deck".
Have a little patience, and try different things. They'll probably make some minor tweaks to DH... There's no way they can run tests on a deck that can compare to when 90% of players start using it. You can only find those statistics when they happen, so I'm sure they'll make necessary adjustments.
Use this time to learn to crack Demon Hunter at it's prime, and in a couple weeks, you'll never lose to them again.
All of the uproar and outrage is just completely unnecessary. It's like throwing a tantrum because Baskin Robbins changed your favorite ice cream flavor. It's been less than 24 hours. Give it a chance.
The only people who try and defend this degenerate nonsense are of course, DH players who dont want their degenerate deck nerfed. They might actually have to think! We understand that it's a new class but DH as a class hasn't earned any of this! DH shouldn't be op right out of the gate, DH should be rewarded by sticking to the class. This is exactly why the old team was against new classes
EVERYBODY PLAYS DEMON HUNTER BECAUSE IT'S A NEW CLASS. Of course it will have better winrates, if everyone is playing it lol. It hasn't even been 24 hours since the rotation and some of you are already losing your minds about something that will balance itself once people start playing other decks. Sheesh! You're a bunch of crybabies...
"A bargain forged in blood and shadow"
Thats not how the math works, if I understand how they calculate it correctly, unless more people playing demon hunters uses the deck tracker than others.
Every time a deck wins another must loose, so the average win rate of all decks should be 50% per matches played.
Please explain how hsreplay calculated it, if I am wrong, if so t0nlpilS might have a point ;-)