I’m sorry I get it’s a good class but can we let the expansion come out for more than 24 hours before you all start going crazy? I swear every expansion it’s a good/powerful deck is created, you all cry your hearts out, then it gets nerfed and you all complain that the class is dead lol. Just get good. I play with DH and I have not won every game so it’s beatable.
Currently 4-0 against demon hunters. I think this is just a problem with the deck you’re playing
I was playing Libram Pure Paladin, I will try to move to a neutral type but the main problem is the value in the cards they play. Everything is too much and even if I reduce the cost of Libram of Hope to 3 (I did 2 games) they out value me with cards that are hard to take down and have stats with insane effects. Mind if I ask what type of deck your playing?
There's your problem, pure pally is garbage right now, and also you're trying to base this off two games? Come tf on, you could lose two games to any class by RNG, that doesn't mean anything lmao
No the 2 games were with full reductions, played more than 12 games by now and its the same thing.
Currently 4-0 against demon hunters. I think this is just a problem with the deck you’re playing
I was playing Libram Pure Paladin, I will try to move to a neutral type but the main problem is the value in the cards they play. Everything is too much and even if I reduce the cost of Libram of Hope to 3 (I did 2 games) they out value me with cards that are hard to take down and have stats with insane effects. Mind if I ask what type of deck your playing?
There's your problem, pure pally is garbage right now, and also you're trying to base this off two games? Come tf on, you could lose two games to any class by RNG, that doesn't mean anything lmao
No the 2 games were with full reductions, played more than 12 games by now and its the same thing.
Okay, but once again, Pure Paladin is terrible right now. Paladin is the lowest winrate of any class except Shaman, which doesnt have enough data on HSReplay to get any good standing.
I watch Kibler, and he said he tried to make a Pure Pally build and gave up because it just doesn't have enough right now, losing Crystology and Glowtron basically murders their early game and Librams aren't strong enough to make up for it.
LMAOOO even when Paladin barely manages to get a gutter tier one drop, some "thing" comes out of the depths to cry and whine about it. Please take this to the salt threatt, they arent touching paladin. just leave us alone ffs.
I understand the frustrations here. Most of the original hearthstone team has left by the way. This game was bought by Chinese investors who want more money. I thought you guys knew that already but it’s a reminder. The question is, why do we keep coming back to this game? Why spend money or time on something that’s broken? Look at the patterns. Blizzard releases an expansion with some OP broken cards then they nerf or un nerf things like if it’s nothing. The main problem now lies in the core mechanics or the game. The basic sets have been ruined by hall of faming and not updating certain classes. Back to this latest expansion,it feels like I’m being forced to play demonic dark stuff that I don’t want to play. I want to play as an alliance, good, holy, heroic warrior that slays demons like a Paladin BUT Almost all classes have demon cards yet there is not a single card created to counter the demon type such as “dragon maw poacher”. This creates an infested Unbalanced demonic game. Of course, they have to make warlock and demon hunter the picks of this expansion since it’s in Outland right? You are having fun right now because it’s new but give it a week and you will see what I’m talking about. Anyways, there are too many other games to get stuck in one, I’ll see you guys in the next patch. Peace.
Currently 4-0 against demon hunters. I think this is just a problem with the deck you’re playing
I was playing Libram Pure Paladin, I will try to move to a neutral type but the main problem is the value in the cards they play. Everything is too much and even if I reduce the cost of Libram of Hope to 3 (I did 2 games) they out value me with cards that are hard to take down and have stats with insane effects. Mind if I ask what type of deck your playing?
I’m like 6-1 against Demon Hunter using No Minion Mage. It’s ridiculously fun.
Love it people completely defending demon hunter, that it's too early to judge, or base it of a bunch of their games, that they can counter them easily, without telling us their rank.
It's no brainer that their card draw is insane, compared to their damage output. Do you remember the last time an aggro deck had insane card draw? Does divine favor ring a bell to you? Which has been HoFed. DH has some of the best card draw in the game, giving them insane tempo. And let's not speak about outcast which is so fucking easy to pull off for an insane effect. And on top of that scull of Gul'dan, Plus 2 huge ass demons spewing lazer all over your face and minions, better than fucking Ragnaros, which has also been HoFed.
Lol yeah let's wait for the meta to settle to state the fucking obvious.
This guy pretty much hit the nail on the head. I've often had the thought on launch days (been playing for 5 years) that it was too early to judge if a deck was OP, but it doesn't feel that way with DH. They have the strongest early game in standard, the strongest midgame in standard, and some of the best card draw in standard. With WRs to back it up, it's not too early to tell. One reason we heard a lot for why they wouldn't add a class is that it would be hard to balance/they already have a tough time (understandably so) balancing the 9 original classes. Well, it happened.
One thing I've noticed specifically is that they can dump so much early game that even if you happen to manage to trade off their stuff, you're usually left with an empty/near empty board when Antaen awakens. Then, if you don't kill it the turn it awakens, it's basically GG.
Also, I realize most people don't play Arena, but as strong as DH is in standard, it is 10x stronger in arena. I just drafted a DH arena deck and it required almost no thought. Just pick the DH card every time and profit.
On a positive note: Hearthstone is freaking amazing. I've still enjoyed AoO so far. Battlegrounds is still awesome. Team 5 is trying new things, which I think is awesome, and they've shown that they're much more nimble now and willing to make changes faster than they did in the game's first 5 years. Overall, I hope they do adjust DH, but the game is still amazing either way!
LMAOOO even when Paladin barely manages to get a gutter tier one drop, some "thing" comes out of the depths to cry and whine about it. Please take this to the salt threatt, they arent touching paladin. just leave us alone ffs.
He's complaining how bad it is, did you even read the thread?
This game was bought by Chinese investors who want more money.
Where did you read this garbage? Hearthstone is owned by Blizzard Entertainment which is a part of Activision Blizzard. It's an American company. It may have some Chinese shareholders and shareholders from several other countries as well but it's still an American company. It's shares are traded on the NASDAQ stock exchange.
This game was bought by Chinese investors who want more money.
Where did you read this garbage? Hearthstone is owned by Blizzard Entertainment which is a part of Activision Blizzard. It's an American company. It may have some Chinese shareholders and shareholders from several other countries as well but it's still an American company. It's shares are traded on the NASDAQ stock exchange.
Sorry you don't like Demons btw.
1) This guy is a troll account. Just ignore him.
2) I think the troll post was referencing how Blizzard frequently bends to the whims of the Chinese government. (As they did with the artwork changes to Jaina, Eviscerate, etc)
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Nah you are just a bad player demon hunter has tier one decks but it is not gamebrokenly op in any way just practice more
I’m sorry I get it’s a good class but can we let the expansion come out for more than 24 hours before you all start going crazy? I swear every expansion it’s a good/powerful deck is created, you all cry your hearts out, then it gets nerfed and you all complain that the class is dead lol. Just get good. I play with DH and I have not won every game so it’s beatable.
No the 2 games were with full reductions, played more than 12 games by now and its the same thing.
Thanks for the creative feedback, I will definitely learn to play better from that reply!
oh look I just lost again as DH. BuT ItS So Op I cAnT BeAt It!
DH, Rogue and Hunter need serious nerfs, especially DH.
Okay, but once again, Pure Paladin is terrible right now. Paladin is the lowest winrate of any class except Shaman, which doesnt have enough data on HSReplay to get any good standing.
I watch Kibler, and he said he tried to make a Pure Pally build and gave up because it just doesn't have enough right now, losing Crystology and Glowtron basically murders their early game and Librams aren't strong enough to make up for it.
LMAOOO even when Paladin barely manages to get a gutter tier one drop, some "thing" comes out of the depths to cry and whine about it. Please take this to the salt threatt, they arent touching paladin. just leave us alone ffs.
I eat Kingsbane rogues for breakfast.
Skull Of Guldan should not exist. They should not be allowed card draw its stupid.
meanwhile.... Nourish
I understand the frustrations here. Most of the original hearthstone team has left by the way. This game was bought by Chinese investors who want more money. I thought you guys knew that already but it’s a reminder. The question is, why do we keep coming back to this game? Why spend money or time on something that’s broken? Look at the patterns. Blizzard releases an expansion with some OP broken cards then they nerf or un nerf things like if it’s nothing. The main problem now lies in the core mechanics or the game. The basic sets have been ruined by hall of faming and not updating certain classes. Back to this latest expansion,it feels like I’m being forced to play demonic dark stuff that I don’t want to play. I want to play as an alliance, good, holy, heroic warrior that slays demons like a Paladin BUT Almost all classes have demon cards yet there is not a single card created to counter the demon type such as “dragon maw poacher”. This creates an infested Unbalanced demonic game. Of course, they have to make warlock and demon hunter the picks of this expansion since it’s in Outland right? You are having fun right now because it’s new but give it a week and you will see what I’m talking about. Anyways, there are too many other games to get stuck in one, I’ll see you guys in the next patch. Peace.
At the very least it should be legendary.
It's launch day. It's Early, Blah blah blah blah.
Great. Demon Hunter is still blatantly broken and way overtuned. Anyone who denies this is either a moron or being purposefully obtuse.
DH is hella fun to play, but obviously it needs nerf. It was obvious even in CBT
I guess we are the beta testers right now since they probably don’t want to pay real testers.
Problem with skull is the mana reduction that essentially lets play a 5 mana card and swarm a board with no risk
I’m like 6-1 against Demon Hunter using No Minion Mage. It’s ridiculously fun.
This guy pretty much hit the nail on the head. I've often had the thought on launch days (been playing for 5 years) that it was too early to judge if a deck was OP, but it doesn't feel that way with DH. They have the strongest early game in standard, the strongest midgame in standard, and some of the best card draw in standard. With WRs to back it up, it's not too early to tell. One reason we heard a lot for why they wouldn't add a class is that it would be hard to balance/they already have a tough time (understandably so) balancing the 9 original classes. Well, it happened.
One thing I've noticed specifically is that they can dump so much early game that even if you happen to manage to trade off their stuff, you're usually left with an empty/near empty board when Antaen awakens. Then, if you don't kill it the turn it awakens, it's basically GG.
Also, I realize most people don't play Arena, but as strong as DH is in standard, it is 10x stronger in arena. I just drafted a DH arena deck and it required almost no thought. Just pick the DH card every time and profit.
On a positive note: Hearthstone is freaking amazing. I've still enjoyed AoO so far. Battlegrounds is still awesome. Team 5 is trying new things, which I think is awesome, and they've shown that they're much more nimble now and willing to make changes faster than they did in the game's first 5 years. Overall, I hope they do adjust DH, but the game is still amazing either way!
He's complaining how bad it is, did you even read the thread?
Where did you read this garbage? Hearthstone is owned by Blizzard Entertainment which is a part of Activision Blizzard. It's an American company. It may have some Chinese shareholders and shareholders from several other countries as well but it's still an American company. It's shares are traded on the NASDAQ stock exchange.
Sorry you don't like Demons btw.
Missing lethal since June 2015.
1) This guy is a troll account. Just ignore him.
2) I think the troll post was referencing how Blizzard frequently bends to the whims of the Chinese government. (As they did with the artwork changes to Jaina, Eviscerate, etc)