I am not talking about cards that become strong in post expansions (like hadronox) but cards that were severely criticized and changed the meta completely
my guess are the 2 princes (keleseth and the 3 mana cost one)they were sooo underrated but they were really op
But was corridor creeper stronger than patches or keleseth?
I would say when he was a 5/5 absolutely. He fit into more decks, and certain decks (odd pala) took it even further. He was also included in most decks that ran both keleseth and patches to boot. Pre nerf creeper was an absolute house.
Edit: Also, in flavor with this thread, creeper was more slept on than the other two. Patches and keleseth were both slept on, but some people gave them a chance when they were previewed. Creeper was immediately written off by 95% of players to then become the single strongest card in the set.
Just read the old comments when nobody had a clue what to do with it.... then once a certain decklist breaked the meta everyone and their grandparents were abusing the hell outta it.
Corridor Creeper wasn't really underrated by the community, just by Blizzard. He showed up in a generic dump hours before the expansion launched. My votes would go to The Caverns Below and Genn Greymane, both of which got a lot of flak when they were announced, but completely turned the meta on its head.
Just read the old comments when nobody had a clue what to do with it.... then once a certain decklist breaked the meta everyone and their grandparents were abusing the hell outta it.
I don't think you should count Raza. On release, he was bad, or at least not good enough to make singleton priest worth it. It wasn't until Anduin was printed that he became busted.
I vote for Lyra. I remember so keenly one of the game designers tweeting about how strong it was, then the entire community flaming him only to realize the card is actually really good.
Corridor Creeper wasn't really underrated by the community, just by Blizzard. He showed up in a generic dump hours before the expansion launched. My votes would go to The Caverns Below and Genn Greymane, both of which got a lot of flak when they were announced, but completely turned the meta on its head.
I think Caverns Below takes the cake, though examples like Creeper and Keleseth are strong considerations. The amount of reviews that said straight up the quest is bad isn't most damning, it's how many reviews had no idea how to evaluate it, and thus wrote it off. Much like predicting how the MTG market will develop, "hearthstone reviewers" have proven to be woefully inept at predicting incoming meta's for years. The only reviewers currently that I at least partially trust are J_Alex and Zeddy, cause they have no interest in pandering to the corporate blizzard nonsense, and give actual thoughtful analysis. Sorry, but the vast, vast majority are just in it for a paycheck (and not giving any original thought); hope that doesn't shatter anyone's dreams.
This. Some people saw some potential, but the viability in almost every competitive deck was not foreseen by anyone. It was basically a 0 mana 5/5 and played in aggro decks as well as control and midrange decks. Honestly, why should anyone skip a 0 mana 5/5 that is only in control mirrors more expensive?
Edit: caverns below is also a good pick. I didn't think about that card since I expected it to be good (in particular with 5/5 and only 4 bounces) but many people said it was too slow.
It's worth noting that Prince Keleseth wasn't played very much at launch. It took several weeks before Rogue started to abuse it.
The Caverns Below deserves a mention, but If we're talking about a disparity between expectation vs reality, then To My Side! takes the cake. It had recieved 70% "Dust It!" votes upon reveal, then proceeded to be used in a tier 1 deck. Not even Backstreet Leper got that many "Dust it" votes.
Did people write off creeper? It was one of the few times I called it right, and I thought it was a no brainer. And I am always wrong, I thought the shaman galakrond was going to be rubbish
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I am not talking about cards that become strong in post expansions (like hadronox) but cards that were severely criticized and changed the meta completely
my guess are the 2 princes (keleseth and the 3 mana cost one)they were sooo underrated but they were really op
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It is without a doubt corridor creeper.
True, jade were said to be bad
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But was corridor creeper stronger than patches or keleseth?
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I would say when he was a 5/5 absolutely. He fit into more decks, and certain decks (odd pala) took it even further. He was also included in most decks that ran both keleseth and patches to boot. Pre nerf creeper was an absolute house.
Edit: Also, in flavor with this thread, creeper was more slept on than the other two. Patches and keleseth were both slept on, but some people gave them a chance when they were previewed. Creeper was immediately written off by 95% of players to then become the single strongest card in the set.
Anything else than Raza the Chained can't be serious.
Just read the old comments when nobody had a clue what to do with it.... then once a certain decklist breaked the meta everyone and their grandparents were abusing the hell outta it.
Corridor Creeper wasn't really underrated by the community, just by Blizzard. He showed up in a generic dump hours before the expansion launched. My votes would go to The Caverns Below and Genn Greymane, both of which got a lot of flak when they were announced, but completely turned the meta on its head.
Remember every one was like kelth won’t be played fast forward a couple months. This card in un fair lol
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Maybe Magic Carpet?
Also, I can remember people thinking Deathstalker Rexxar was cute, and not the one-card army that it became.
Also Trump gave Defile 1-star, but you know...
any pre nerfed classic card... 4 mana leeroy etc
I don't think you should count Raza. On release, he was bad, or at least not good enough to make singleton priest worth it. It wasn't until Anduin was printed that he became busted.
I vote for Lyra. I remember so keenly one of the game designers tweeting about how strong it was, then the entire community flaming him only to realize the card is actually really good.
I think Caverns Below takes the cake, though examples like Creeper and Keleseth are strong considerations. The amount of reviews that said straight up the quest is bad isn't most damning, it's how many reviews had no idea how to evaluate it, and thus wrote it off. Much like predicting how the MTG market will develop, "hearthstone reviewers" have proven to be woefully inept at predicting incoming meta's for years. The only reviewers currently that I at least partially trust are J_Alex and Zeddy, cause they have no interest in pandering to the corporate blizzard nonsense, and give actual thoughtful analysis. Sorry, but the vast, vast majority are just in it for a paycheck (and not giving any original thought); hope that doesn't shatter anyone's dreams.
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the princes werent as op at launch as after the other expansions, namely kobolds...
This. Some people saw some potential, but the viability in almost every competitive deck was not foreseen by anyone. It was basically a 0 mana 5/5 and played in aggro decks as well as control and midrange decks. Honestly, why should anyone skip a 0 mana 5/5 that is only in control mirrors more expensive?
Edit: caverns below is also a good pick. I didn't think about that card since I expected it to be good (in particular with 5/5 and only 4 bounces) but many people said it was too slow.
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It's worth noting that Prince Keleseth wasn't played very much at launch. It took several weeks before Rogue started to abuse it.
The Caverns Below deserves a mention, but If we're talking about a disparity between expectation vs reality, then To My Side! takes the cake. It had recieved 70% "Dust It!" votes upon reveal, then proceeded to be used in a tier 1 deck. Not even Backstreet Leper got that many "Dust it" votes.
I'm not sure, but wasn't To My Side! "discovered" after weeks when firstly Renounce Darkness Warlock rose up and then "no minions" Hunter replaced it? Both decks with Barnes + Y'Shaarj, Rage Unbound combo only?
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Did people write off creeper? It was one of the few times I called it right, and I thought it was a no brainer. And I am always wrong, I thought the shaman galakrond was going to be rubbish