The fun of HS, for me, was always trying to hand read and play around what my opponent might have. That is how the game used to be.
Today, there are so many random cared generators, with lackeys being a prime example, that you can only legitimately see the game as casual fun. It certainly is not a high-skill, competitive game any more.
That was a deliberate design choice by Blizzard, probably linked to Twitch and YouTube (Blizzard wanted more highlights for social marketing). But it ruined the game, in my opinion.
Who gives a sh*t !? In my opinion all streamers with less than 5k viewers should quit streaming in general and get a REAL JOB. You can't expect people to pay you for playing video games forever unless you are really, really good at it, or super entertaining(at twitch).
Losing Zetalot really stings. One of the few streamers that I've always watched, supported, and helped out financially. Priest is my favorite class but it is very clearly Blizzard's least favorite. And while no one cares whether I play Hearthstone, losing the support of high profile players and streamers ultimately affects the entire game's popularity and success.
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Lackeys this time. . . every few months someone else has a new reason why everyone's leaving Hearthstone, and the game's about to die, etc etc. If they changed the lackey thing tomorrow, some other guy or girl would quit over some other dumb thing they don't like, and everyone will jump on that doom wagon. If Zetalot wants to leave, good for him, everyone needs to switch it up now and then. Just as many people hated his Priest concoctions as hate the stupid lackey nonsense now, so his proclamation is essentially meaningless.
But this is exactly why Hearthstone is doomed. every time there is a super OP "thing" the only solution to erase it is introducing an evem more powerful shit to overcome the previous. It will be worse and worse until finally they will make Hearthstone 2 wiping out all the crap they generated every expansion.
We're in the most OP meta as all six expansions are still in play. Once they rotate out the power level will drop and people who enjoy OP decks will complain about how slow/weak/unfun/underpowered the meta is. The cycle is always the same.
Streamers leaving isn't necessarily a bad thing as it allows new streamers to come through.
And for those slagging off the developers - the level of content and communication, as well as the willingness to change things quickly if required is the best it has ever been.
Do you realise that the current tempo Galacron Rogue uses just cards of basic/classic and the last 3 expansions?
Every streamer that left Hearthstone has returned to play Battlegrounds. He could at least try other game mode. You cant complain when you play priest all day for 5 years, that could make anyone mentally ill
Oh boy, another "this streamer quit HS, therefore HS is dying" thread. Look, I get it, Zetalot doesn't like the Lackey mechanic, but unfortunately, Blizzard isn't going to change it for him. Another streamer quit HS because of Jade mechanic, another one did it because of DKs. Each with their own frustrations.
Don't worry, Blizzard won't go out of business. Their business model is designed to always be on the look out for more and more players and milk their money as much as possible before they quit. So yeah, the only way HS will die is if the entire human race ceased to exist.
Lackeys this time. . . every few months someone else has a new reason why everyone's leaving Hearthstone, and the game's about to die, etc etc. If they changed the lackey thing tomorrow, some other guy or girl would quit over some other dumb thing they don't like, and everyone will jump on that doom wagon. If Zetalot wants to leave, good for him, everyone needs to switch it up now and then. Just as many people hated his Priest concoctions as hate the stupid lackey nonsense now, so his proclamation is essentially meaningless.
nice projection. do you know what is really meaningless? to play this game in the way you play it. i'm sure you are an average "meta slave". game quality is dropping, but you dont care because you enjoy robbin dull clownfiesta games with your autoplay netdecks and nothing more. wow. good boi.
ladder is awful atm. blizzard is awful too, in their decisions for the game and also in something like PR stuff. we should all follow zetalot's example
It’s difficult to believe its RNG i got multiple games when only the 100% perfect draw could grant my opponent a win, one lacking card and it would be a lose and many of them were from discover, it’s always perfect. I got 100% sure when i got a few draws like this myself. It cannot be rng, game decides at the beginning if you have chance to win. Which is why face hunter is successful, you cannot make any mistakes playing this deck xd And rouge grants multiple chances for this mechanism to fulfill. Shitty game, like all Blizzard’s now.
Lackeys this time. . . every few months someone else has a new reason why everyone's leaving Hearthstone, and the game's about to die, etc etc. If they changed the lackey thing tomorrow, some other guy or girl would quit over some other dumb thing they don't like, and everyone will jump on that doom wagon. If Zetalot wants to leave, good for him, everyone needs to switch it up now and then. Just as many people hated his Priest concoctions as hate the stupid lackey nonsense now, so his proclamation is essentially meaningless.
The logic you used to get to "his proclamation is essentially meangingless" is so flimsy and weak, it makes me question if you even bothered to use ANY critical thinking on this issue, instead of spouting narrowminded vitriol that serves no feasible purpose or adds any extra element of debate or constructed criticism. This is the definition of a meaningless opinion sir or ma'am, you have unironically turned the spotlight on your own thinly stretched attempt at discourse.
But the rest of his post is completely logical and makes perfect sense. Just because you don't like his opinion (because that's obviously the issue here ;)), doesn't mean labeling it as meaningless is correct.
Also, to be honest, I don't give a single f...k about what this guy Zetalot does with his life. Even if Kripparrian, Kibler and/or Trump (which are probably the most important and famous Hearthstone streamers out there) decided to stop playing this game forever, I wouldn't care either. To each his own. ;)
if more people played funny decks the game would be awesome. i love playing all kinds of wacky decks but it is more easy to do so in wild where you meet more different decks. The main issue why people play only a few decks i because there's something wrong in human brains where all you want is win + the other reason is that the game is too expensive and people can't create many decks
HS needs more modes. Until that happens people will continue to quit.
But more modes means lesser importance of META decks thus less income for them.
So, it's all dictated by the income curve - when it drops low enough with the current game state they'll release new modes and we'll have more fun. Ironically the more people quit now the better for the game in the long run.
if more people played funny decks the game would be awesome. i love playing all kinds of wacky decks but it is more easy to do so in wild where you meet more different decks. The main issue why people play only a few decks i because there's something wrong in human brains where all you want is win + the other reason is that the game is too expensive and people can't create many decks
LOL, there is nothing wrong with the human brain (also, aren't you human??? :P). Being competitive is part of the nature of any animal out there. Yeah, sometimes it sucks, but we can't escape to our most basic instincts. :(
if more people played funny decks the game would be awesome. i love playing all kinds of wacky decks but it is more easy to do so in wild where you meet more different decks. The main issue why people play only a few decks i because there's something wrong in human brains where all you want is win + the other reason is that the game is too expensive and people can't create many decks
LOL, there is nothing wrong with the human brain (also, aren't you human??? :P). Being competitive is part of the nature of any animal out there. Yeah, sometimes it sucks, but we can't escape to our most basic instincts. :(
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The fun of HS, for me, was always trying to hand read and play around what my opponent might have. That is how the game used to be.
Today, there are so many random cared generators, with lackeys being a prime example, that you can only legitimately see the game as casual fun. It certainly is not a high-skill, competitive game any more.
That was a deliberate design choice by Blizzard, probably linked to Twitch and YouTube (Blizzard wanted more highlights for social marketing). But it ruined the game, in my opinion.
Who gives a sh*t !? In my opinion all streamers with less than 5k viewers should quit streaming in general and get a REAL JOB. You can't expect people to pay you for playing video games forever unless you are really, really good at it, or super entertaining(at twitch).
Good for him. I think a lot more will be leaving for Legends of Runeterra
Losing Zetalot really stings. One of the few streamers that I've always watched, supported, and helped out financially. Priest is my favorite class but it is very clearly Blizzard's least favorite. And while no one cares whether I play Hearthstone, losing the support of high profile players and streamers ultimately affects the entire game's popularity and success.
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all the streamers didn't leave hs because it's bad. they're just bored to death, because they played it 50-60 hours a week for years.
Do you realise that the current tempo Galacron Rogue uses just cards of basic/classic and the last 3 expansions?
for real tough
Oh boy, another "this streamer quit HS, therefore HS is dying" thread. Look, I get it, Zetalot doesn't like the Lackey mechanic, but unfortunately, Blizzard isn't going to change it for him. Another streamer quit HS because of Jade mechanic, another one did it because of DKs. Each with their own frustrations.
Don't worry, Blizzard won't go out of business. Their business model is designed to always be on the look out for more and more players and milk their money as much as possible before they quit. So yeah, the only way HS will die is if the entire human race ceased to exist.
nice projection. do you know what is really meaningless? to play this game in the way you play it. i'm sure you are an average "meta slave". game quality is dropping, but you dont care because you enjoy robbin dull clownfiesta games with your autoplay netdecks and nothing more. wow. good boi.
ladder is awful atm. blizzard is awful too, in their decisions for the game and also in something like PR stuff. we should all follow zetalot's example
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It’s difficult to believe its RNG i got multiple games when only the 100% perfect draw could grant my opponent a win, one lacking card and it would be a lose and many of them were from discover, it’s always perfect. I got 100% sure when i got a few draws like this myself. It cannot be rng, game decides at the beginning if you have chance to win. Which is why face hunter is successful, you cannot make any mistakes playing this deck xd And rouge grants multiple chances for this mechanism to fulfill. Shitty game, like all Blizzard’s now.
Basic baby rage rules:
Lot of RNG: "The game is unpredictable, it kills the essence of the game!" - like Lackeys
Less RNG: "The game is so boring, I feel like I play the same games over and over!" - like Baku and Genn decks
Weak expansion: "The game is so boring and slow. I'm literally sleeping!" - like Rastakhan's Rumble
Strong expansion: "The power level is just too high. The non-meta decks have no chance!" - like pre-nerfed Galakrond decks
Pick one or two and create a new discussion about the end of Hearthstone.
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But the rest of his post is completely logical and makes perfect sense. Just because you don't like his opinion (because that's obviously the issue here ;)), doesn't mean labeling it as meaningless is correct.
Also, to be honest, I don't give a single f...k about what this guy Zetalot does with his life. Even if Kripparrian, Kibler and/or Trump (which are probably the most important and famous Hearthstone streamers out there) decided to stop playing this game forever, I wouldn't care either. To each his own. ;)
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Nice move mods, well done!!! ;)
if more people played funny decks the game would be awesome. i love playing all kinds of wacky decks but it is more easy to do so in wild where you meet more different decks. The main issue why people play only a few decks i because there's something wrong in human brains where all you want is win + the other reason is that the game is too expensive and people can't create many decks
HS needs more modes. Until that happens people will continue to quit.
But more modes means lesser importance of META decks thus less income for them.
So, it's all dictated by the income curve - when it drops low enough with the current game state they'll release new modes and we'll have more fun. Ironically the more people quit now the better for the game in the long run.
LOL, there is nothing wrong with the human brain (also, aren't you human??? :P). Being competitive is part of the nature of any animal out there. Yeah, sometimes it sucks, but we can't escape to our most basic instincts. :(
Oh Zetalot will be back next expansion. He is a small streamer and if he streams other games he is gonna need a second job.
He is just saying he is gonna stop to get more views and popularity.
I respect and follow Zealot, but the game is not dying cause he is living. More Streamers will shine
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