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The casual mmr doesn’t work that well tbh.  I’ve gone in with goofball decks trying to do some obscure ass combo and dropped 5-6 games in a row and I’ll still face aggro players and quest shaman 

Who is to say that those people who queue up with aggro and quest shaman haven't lost 5-6 in a row either?  I personally use casual to complete quests, which these days really only require you to play 1 of 3 classes.  If I already have a deck of a class I need for that quest, I'm not going out of my way to make a meme deck just on the off chance I might get paired up with someone else who isn't playing a proven deck.

Name aside, casual is there for anybody with any deck who doesn't want to play ranked.  If combo was on top, why should someone be forced to lose rank while learning how to play the deck?

As for making a new mode designed for people to play off meta decks?  If there wasn't a feature to prevent top tier decks, I don't doubt it would turn out just like casual is now.  As someone said earlier, make friends with people who share your casual beliefs and play them.

 It’s unlikely anyone rocking a meta deck in casual at any point every drops 5-6 games in a row.  And I love when people use the “trying a new deck thing.  Like yeah, I’m sure you facing my mogu cultist druid and hakkar purifier priest deck is going to really give you a good example of how your deck runs.  If you want to test a net deck, run ladder and risk your stars.  Let people play their weird nonsense without your sorry ass tryharding them into oblivion.  It wouldn’t be hard to let people ban cards in casual to target archetypes they don’t want to see but I’m sure people like you would whine about it. 

This very thread is proof that people are playing (and presumably losing) against meta decks with their casual decks.  People also tend to have more than 1 deck and not required to queue up endlessly with a single list.  If I personally need 3 games with a shaman, I have a really bad otk wild deck that very rarely gets a win.  If the next day I need 3 hunter or warrior(Don't currently have either) wins, I just auto complete the current best deck and bang out 3 games off the back of 3 losses the day before.  It's not difficult to get numerous losses in a row when you aren't trying to win.  I choose to play in casual so I don't have to try hard.  Regardless of how easy or hard a deck is to pilot, I can muligan and play however I want without risk of losing rank.

As for banning cards, well that really bad Shaman OTK I play for quests is a wild dragon list which requires Shudderwok.  Probably a card a lot of people would Ban given the option.  You couldn't actually go about making the system to accomplish this in a way everyone would agree with.  

 1.) casual isn’t supposed to be competitive.  If you copy a deck made for ladder climbing and take it into casual, you’re an ass.  Justify it anyway you like, but you’re an ass.  class quests don’t require wins anymore to complete so that’s not an excuse.

2.) I’m talking about individual card banning.  I should be able to queue up into casual and select like 5 cards I don’t want to see in my matchups If I choose.  wouldn't even care If the matchmaking took longer.

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 1.) casual isn’t supposed to be competitive.  If you copy a deck made for ladder climbing and take it into casual, you’re an ass.  Justify it anyway you like, but you’re an ass.  class quests don’t require wins anymore to complete so that’s not an excuse.

2.) I’m talking about individual card banning.  I should be able to queue up into casual and select like 5 cards I don’t want to see in my matchups If I choose.  wouldn't even care If the matchmaking took longer.

 1) The only thing Casual is supposed to be is unranked with MMR. If you take offense at someone else's choice of deck, you are an ass.

2) If you want to ban cards, make some friends and agree not to use those cards when you play against each other. Then and only then do you have the right to be angry at them for breaking your rules for what the game "should" be.

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This idea sounds terrible but it is an easy to fix one: for people, as you said, rank 20 or lower add a newbie mode instead of casual, where they can actually play their homebrew decks vs one another