Yeah shaman still looks really good, mogu+mutate can replace to tech against rogue and hunter and other nerfs i dont belive that would be that big impact. Faceless looks also still good car two 4/4 rush minions is still good hearthstone card.
Yeah man for sure, Faceless Corruptor will still be a very solid minion. -1 Attack is hardly nothing.
Wrong. Think about all the minions it now CAN'T trade one copy of itself into.
I think this is that people here don't understand. It's not about destroying Galakrond Shaman, it's about making it slower. And yes, it works. Galakrond was strong with normal draws but totally insane with perfect ones. Now Galakrond shaman is still very strong with insane draws but weaker with normal ones. It's still a very solid deck, but now MUCH slower. And when we learned one in hearthstone is that Value doesn't matter, Tempo does.
Yeah shaman still looks really good, mogu+mutate can replace to tech against rogue and hunter and other nerfs i dont belive that would be that big impact. Faceless looks also still good car two 4/4 rush minions is still good hearthstone card.
Yeah man for sure, Faceless Corruptor will still be a very solid minion. -1 Attack is hardly nothing.
Sorry, but that's bullshit. There are MANY taunt-minions out there that have around 5 health. Just take Shield of Galakrond for example. Before you traded with one, and had an undamaged 5/4. Now you can't do that anymore. In worst case the enemy needs to deal with it now with both 4/4 to kill it and that's quite a bad turn.
Between 5 attack and 4 attack are worlds in Hearthstone. And all in all it's 2 attack less. Enough? Maybe not, but it's far far better than before.
Because at 5 attack is was broken. Right now it's still great for tempo/aggro decks. Even after the nerfs a lot of streamers still play the card so yeah that -1 attack did nothing.
Yeah shaman still looks really good, mogu+mutate can replace to tech against rogue and hunter and other nerfs i dont belive that would be that big impact. Faceless looks also still good car two 4/4 rush minions is still good hearthstone card.
Yeah man for sure, Faceless Corruptor will still be a very solid minion. -1 Attack is hardly nothing.
Wrong. Think about all the minions it now CAN'T trade one copy of itself into.
It's still very powerful because a lot of aggro decks on ladder right now so the faceless gives you great trades.
I think this is that people here don't understand. It's not about destroying Galakrond Shaman, it's about making it slower. And yes, it works. Galakrond was strong with normal draws but totally insane with perfect ones. Now Galakrond shaman is still very strong with insane draws but weaker with normal ones. It's still a very solid deck, but now MUCH slower. And when we learned one in hearthstone is that Value doesn't matter, Tempo does.
Yeah shaman still looks really good, mogu+mutate can replace to tech against rogue and hunter and other nerfs i dont belive that would be that big impact. Faceless looks also still good car two 4/4 rush minions is still good hearthstone card.
Yeah man for sure, Faceless Corruptor will still be a very solid minion. -1 Attack is hardly nothing.
Sorry, but that's bullshit. There are MANY taunt-minions out there that have around 5 health. Just take Shield of Galakrond for example. Before you traded with one, and had an undamaged 5/4. Now you can't do that anymore. In worst case the enemy needs to deal with it now with both 4/4 to kill it and that's quite a bad turn.
Between 5 attack and 4 attack are worlds in Hearthstone. And all in all it's 2 attack less. Enough? Maybe not, but it's far far better than before.
Because at 5 attack is was broken. Right now it's still great for tempo/aggro decks. Even after the nerfs a lot of streamers still play the card so yeah that -1 attack did nothing.
correct explanation, incorrect conclusion. To say it did nothing isn't exactly correct. Just because it's good enough still to be played hardly means it did nothing. I don't understand why people see this as a binary only outcome. It did something, there are a lot of things it can't cleanly trade into now and that is something. Just because that the nerf wasn't enough to bury it into unplayablity doesn't mean that it did nothing.
Also, AGAIN it's effectively -2 attack nerf, not a -1 attack nerf.
I think this is that people here don't understand. It's not about destroying Galakrond Shaman, it's about making it slower. And yes, it works. Galakrond was strong with normal draws but totally insane with perfect ones. Now Galakrond shaman is still very strong with insane draws but weaker with normal ones. It's still a very solid deck, but now MUCH slower. And when we learned one in hearthstone is that Value doesn't matter, Tempo does.
Yeah shaman still looks really good, mogu+mutate can replace to tech against rogue and hunter and other nerfs i dont belive that would be that big impact. Faceless looks also still good car two 4/4 rush minions is still good hearthstone card.
Yeah man for sure, Faceless Corruptor will still be a very solid minion. -1 Attack is hardly nothing.
Sorry, but that's bullshit. There are MANY taunt-minions out there that have around 5 health. Just take Shield of Galakrond for example. Before you traded with one, and had an undamaged 5/4. Now you can't do that anymore. In worst case the enemy needs to deal with it now with both 4/4 to kill it and that's quite a bad turn.
Between 5 attack and 4 attack are worlds in Hearthstone. And all in all it's 2 attack less. Enough? Maybe not, but it's far far better than before.
Because at 5 attack is was broken. Right now it's still great for tempo/aggro decks. Even after the nerfs a lot of streamers still play the card so yeah that -1 attack did nothing.
correct explanation, incorrect conclusion. To say it did nothing isn't exactly correct. Just because it's good enough still to be played hardly means it did nothing. I don't understand why people see this as a binary only outcome. It did something, there are a lot of things it can't cleanly trade into now and that is something. Just because that the nerf wasn't enough to bury it into unplayablity doesn't mean that it did nothing.
Also, AGAIN it's effectively -2 attack nerf, not a -1 attack nerf.
The nerfs have been live for like a few hours. Chill the F out.
Yes just like many of you said "the expansion has only been out for two days chill the F out." Guess what, shaman was still op even after a few days, go figure. Guess what else, shaman will still be the top deck and it will also be that way in a week or two. But you can screenshot this post and throw it in my face if I'm wrong, which won't happen.
Dude the win rate was dropping before the nerfs even came out. With the nerfs live it’s gonna drop even more.
The nerfs have been live for like a few hours. Chill the F out.
Yes just like many of you said "the expansion has only been out for two days chill the F out." Guess what, shaman was still op even after a few days, go figure. Guess what else, shaman will still be the top deck and it will also be that way in a week or two. But you can screenshot this post and throw it in my face if I'm wrong, which won't happen.
Hey buddy, guess what? Hunter's now beating Shaman and the highest winrate Shaman deck has dropped to 53%. Looks like your prediction didn't even last a day
The nerfs have been live for like a few hours. Chill the F out.
Yes just like many of you said "the expansion has only been out for two days chill the F out." Guess what, shaman was still op even after a few days, go figure. Guess what else, shaman will still be the top deck and it will also be that way in a week or two. But you can screenshot this post and throw it in my face if I'm wrong, which won't happen.
Hey buddy, guess what? Hunter's now beating Shaman and the highest winrate Shaman deck has dropped to 53%. Looks like your prediction didn't even last a day
What? Hsreplay shows shaman still over 58% winrate. Blizz will need a 2nd balance patch and they have hinted to this in January after the holidays.
The nerfs have been live for like a few hours. Chill the F out.
Yes just like many of you said "the expansion has only been out for two days chill the F out." Guess what, shaman was still op even after a few days, go figure. Guess what else, shaman will still be the top deck and it will also be that way in a week or two. But you can screenshot this post and throw it in my face if I'm wrong, which won't happen.
Hey buddy, guess what? Hunter's now beating Shaman and the highest winrate Shaman deck has dropped to 53%. Looks like your prediction didn't even last a day
What? Hsreplay shows shaman still over 58% winrate. Blizz will need a 2nd balance patch and they have hinted to this in January after the holidays.
HSR stats don't reset properly in many cases immediately after a patch hits.
So does my Highlander Galakrond Shaman. With a couple adjustments you can really capitalize on the aggro meta, add Taunts, heal, Silence and Weapon removal and its Game Over. Yes the Highlander version is a bit of a more slowish Control Shaman, that may die against Priest, Ysera Unleashed Druid or some heavy Control Warrior, but thats not the point. Its about countering Zoo and Smorc Monkeys.
PS: I run a one-of Doomsayer and even Depth Charge as well, while having a Ton / Barrel of fun xD
So does my Highlander Galakrond Shaman. With a couple adjustments you can really capitalize on the aggro meta, add Taunts, heal, Silence and Weapon removal and its Game Over. Yes the Highlander version is a bit of a more slowish Control Shaman, that may die against Priest, Ysera Unleashed Druid or some heavy Control Warrior, but thats not the point. Its about countering Zoo and Smorc Monkeys.
PS: I run a one-of Doomsayer and even Depth Charge as well, while having a Ton / Barrel of fun xD
Sounds good. I included Zentimo in my deck so i can multi hex, triple freeze or silence minions. Electra is also great for dragons pack, most aggro decks just quit because they can't deal with 4 5/6 taunts.
The nerfs have been live for like a few hours. Chill the F out.
Yes just like many of you said "the expansion has only been out for two days chill the F out." Guess what, shaman was still op even after a few days, go figure. Guess what else, shaman will still be the top deck and it will also be that way in a week or two. But you can screenshot this post and throw it in my face if I'm wrong, which won't happen.
Dude the win rate was dropping before the nerfs even came out. With the nerfs live it’s gonna drop even more.
Dude the win rate was dropping because of a steady growth in Shaman vs shaman matches.
If everyone is playing Shaman then Shaman's win % would be 50%.
Cafe to share source? Oh let me guess, Hsreplay's classes' winrates at main Page..Nough said..If you would bother to click the class, you could see that winrates for Galashaman deck are all around 57% to 62%, same goes for the stats in metastats.net which also puy the deck in the second place of the most succesful decks right now..
And for the record, the same sites places rogues overall fourth, but deathrattle roque as the best deck in many regions and many ranks..
You cant use overall classes statistics to claim that your deck has low winrate, when decks winrates is different..
The nerfs have been live for like a few hours. Chill the F out.
Yes just like many of you said "the expansion has only been out for two days chill the F out." Guess what, shaman was still op even after a few days, go figure. Guess what else, shaman will still be the top deck and it will also be that way in a week or two. But you can screenshot this post and throw it in my face if I'm wrong, which won't happen.
Dude the win rate was dropping before the nerfs even came out. With the nerfs live it’s gonna drop even more.
Dude the win rate was dropping because of a steady growth in Shaman vs shaman matches.
If everyone is playing Shaman then Shaman's win % would be 50%.
The win rate is dropping because people are adjusting...
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shaman is deaded
The winrate of the quest version has dropped to 55% and the winrate of the non quest version is at 59.
I still think other classes need buffs, shaman itself is not that overpowering
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Wrong. Think about all the minions it now CAN'T trade one copy of itself into.
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Because at 5 attack is was broken. Right now it's still great for tempo/aggro decks. Even after the nerfs a lot of streamers still play the card so yeah that -1 attack did nothing.
It's still very powerful because a lot of aggro decks on ladder right now so the faceless gives you great trades.
correct explanation, incorrect conclusion. To say it did nothing isn't exactly correct. Just because it's good enough still to be played hardly means it did nothing. I don't understand why people see this as a binary only outcome. It did something, there are a lot of things it can't cleanly trade into now and that is something. Just because that the nerf wasn't enough to bury it into unplayablity doesn't mean that it did nothing.
Also, AGAIN it's effectively -2 attack nerf, not a -1 attack nerf.
That's true
Dude the win rate was dropping before the nerfs even came out. With the nerfs live it’s gonna drop even more.
Hey buddy, guess what? Hunter's now beating Shaman and the highest winrate Shaman deck has dropped to 53%. Looks like your prediction didn't even last a day
What? Hsreplay shows shaman still over 58% winrate. Blizz will need a 2nd balance patch and they have hinted to this in January after the holidays.
HSR stats don't reset properly in many cases immediately after a patch hits.
Galakrond Shaman version with witch's brew, hex, earth shock and ooze performs really well against these aggro meta decks.
So does my Highlander Galakrond Shaman. With a couple adjustments you can really capitalize on the aggro meta, add Taunts, heal, Silence and Weapon removal and its Game Over. Yes the Highlander version is a bit of a more slowish Control Shaman, that may die against Priest, Ysera Unleashed Druid or some heavy Control Warrior, but thats not the point. Its about countering Zoo and Smorc Monkeys.
PS: I run a one-of Doomsayer and even Depth Charge as well, while having a Ton / Barrel of fun xD
Any of the galakronds can't be disenchanted right now, so I don't think we would get 1600 dust.
Sounds good. I included Zentimo in my deck so i can multi hex, triple freeze or silence minions. Electra is also great for dragons pack, most aggro decks just quit because they can't deal with 4 5/6 taunts.
Dude the win rate was dropping because of a steady growth in Shaman vs shaman matches.
If everyone is playing Shaman then Shaman's win % would be 50%.
47% winrate, 3rd weakest class in the game at the moment but sure ''looking strong''
Cafe to share source? Oh let me guess, Hsreplay's classes' winrates at main Page..Nough said..If you would bother to click the class, you could see that winrates for Galashaman deck are all around 57% to 62%, same goes for the stats in metastats.net which also puy the deck in the second place of the most succesful decks right now..
And for the record, the same sites places rogues overall fourth, but deathrattle roque as the best deck in many regions and many ranks..
You cant use overall classes statistics to claim that your deck has low winrate, when decks winrates is different..
The win rate is dropping because people are adjusting...