The deck is toxic. Rolls over you or gets rolled over. You finish them early or there's nothing you can do. Super encourages simplistic aggro. Super discourages interesting control/combo decks. It will make for a boring and frustrating meta. It needs to be nerfed hard in this patch.
Best thing would be to HOF Anubisath Warbringer immediately. That solves it. It would still be a good deck without that but would use the deathrattle copies/activators to generate value mostly (Whelp, etc), not insane, insurmountable stats with lifesteal/rush/charge.
Aggro literally splits that rogue deck in two. Play zoo, hunter, hell even mech paladin and just slaughter it. The rogue doesn't even do anything until turn4-5 and they have no aoe. AND that's if they draw both necrium cards.
So much this.
I'm predicting Highlander decks and face hunter will be the new meta kings after the shaman nerfs.
The deck is toxic. Rolls over you or gets rolled over. You finish them early or there's nothing you can do. Super encourages simplistic aggro. Super discourages interesting control/combo decks. It will make for a boring and frustrating meta. It needs to be nerfed hard in this patch.
Best thing would be to HOF Anubisath Warbringer immediately. That solves it. It would still be a good deck without that but would use the deathrattle copies/activators to generate value mostly (Whelp, etc), not insane, insurmountable stats with lifesteal/rush/charge.
The more I read idiotic statements like this, the more I realize that people don't care want nerfs for balance reasons. Instead, they just want the dust.
Oh my gooood, there is a deck that counters control decks, it must be removed from the immediately. How dare they make a deck thats good against control and weak against aggro. Oh nooooo
Deck is beatable, nowhere near broken, proper use of silence and ooze can ruin it easily.
The deck is toxic. Rolls over you or gets rolled over. You finish them early or there's nothing you can do. Super encourages simplistic aggro. Super discourages interesting control/combo decks. It will make for a boring and frustrating meta. It needs to be nerfed hard in this patch.
Best thing would be to HOF Anubisath Warbringer immediately. That solves it. It would still be a good deck without that but would use the deathrattle copies/activators to generate value mostly (Whelp, etc), not insane, insurmountable stats with lifesteal/rush/charge.
more and more i see ppl saying that this or that card should be HOF. what is wrong with these ppl? HOF is just for classic cards alone. the HOF on Baku and Genn was a one time thing. and they were not even treated as HOF they were rotated earlier than usual, that was all
The deck is toxic. Rolls over you or gets rolled over. You finish them early or there's nothing you can do. Super encourages simplistic aggro. Super discourages interesting control/combo decks. It will make for a boring and frustrating meta. It needs to be nerfed hard in this patch.
Best thing would be to HOF Anubisath Warbringer immediately. That solves it. It would still be a good deck without that but would use the deathrattle copies/activators to generate value mostly (Whelp, etc), not insane, insurmountable stats with lifesteal/rush/charge.
The more I read idiotic statements like this, the more I realize that people don't care want nerfs for balance reasons. Instead, they just want the dust.
Warbringer is a common card genius. It didn't do anything until it could be abused by this deck. Sure this deck is beatable if you tech against it extensively. Those cards are ultra dead weight against other decks. But if ladder is flooded with deathrattle rogue then you have to. It's called a warped meta, which is unhealthy for deck diversity and fun, which is what this is supposed to be about.
The deck is toxic. Rolls over you or gets rolled over. You finish them early or there's nothing you can do. Super encourages simplistic aggro. Super discourages interesting control/combo decks. It will make for a boring and frustrating meta. It needs to be nerfed hard in this patch.
Best thing would be to HOF Anubisath Warbringer immediately. That solves it. It would still be a good deck without that but would use the deathrattle copies/activators to generate value mostly (Whelp, etc), not insane, insurmountable stats with lifesteal/rush/charge.
The more I read idiotic statements like this, the more I realize that people don't care want nerfs for balance reasons. Instead, they just want the dust.
Warbringer is a common card genius. It didn't do anything until it could be abused by this deck. Sure this deck is beatable if you tech against it extensively. Those cards are ultra dead weight against other decks. But if ladder is flooded with deathrattle rogue then you have to. It's called a warped meta, which is unhealthy for deck diversity and fun, which is what this is supposed to be about.
Warped is a good description of your argument. All your posts, in fact.
This whole thread feels like people forgot about tech cards existing or refusing to acknowledge their existence and usefulness when needed in the meta.
Meh.. You have to switch cards/decks continuously to beat the meta. There is many counters to quest rogue,. If you keep facing them and aren't winning, concider what you can do.
If Apothecary Roque becomes the prevalent deck, everyone will simply switch to Spellbreaker and Owl. There are counters for Roque AND Face Hunters, there are none for Control decks vs Galakrond Shaman.
That rogue deck is easily countered. Statistically more often than not they will not draw the nuts.
Why tech in some silence: when the meta was a tiny bit more stable and shamans not so overpowered, this kind of deck wouldn't see play because it gets instantly crushed by any aggro/tempo deck.
Is noone playing at rank 5 and above? Everyone is playing the broken Deathrattle Rogue deck, easy wins when you draw the nuts. Galakrond shaman can't do muchagainst this, way too fast with the nut draw. And in the last 20+ games I only met 3 shamans, but the last 4 opponents have been playing the mentioned Rogue deck.
Can't wait until people realize that there is not only Galakrond shaman which needed an adjustment but also this awful Rogue deck. The shaman nerfs alone won't do anything in the long term.
Btw my opponent just summoned two 11/10's with rush on turn 6, so much fun and interaction. All of the last Rogue opponents drew exactly the nuts, this is some disturbing shit.
If Rogue remains untouched, we all won't have that much more fun playing Standard as you might hope. Seriously I've never met this many shamans compared to the rogue appearances. This deck feels even more frustrating to play against.
Of course I hope for the best, but if there are no surprising nerfs, I doube the next couple of weeks/months will be enjoyable in Standard. Except Blizzard unleashes its full power and continues the trend of adjusting in a decent amount of time. Personally I would have waited 1-2 more weeks until adjustments and see how the meta settles, but oh well you can't get everything.
Rogue can destroy most of the midrange decks and aggro deck destroy rogue. Each deck has a downside just like galakrond shaman. Decks are interactive with each other that’s why there is no deck that has 100% win rate. I would rather this one to be in salt thread.
Kind of like how you Hunter opponent always rolls Huffer. Somehow.
The deck is toxic. Rolls over you or gets rolled over. You finish them early or there's nothing you can do. Super encourages simplistic aggro. Super discourages interesting control/combo decks. It will make for a boring and frustrating meta. It needs to be nerfed hard in this patch.
Best thing would be to HOF Anubisath Warbringer immediately. That solves it. It would still be a good deck without that but would use the deathrattle copies/activators to generate value mostly (Whelp, etc), not insane, insurmountable stats with lifesteal/rush/charge.
So much this.
I'm predicting Highlander decks and face hunter will be the new meta kings after the shaman nerfs.
The more I read idiotic statements like this, the more I realize that people don't care want nerfs for balance reasons. Instead, they just want the dust.
Oh my gooood, there is a deck that counters control decks, it must be removed from the immediately. How dare they make a deck thats good against control and weak against aggro. Oh nooooo
Deck is beatable, nowhere near broken, proper use of silence and ooze can ruin it easily.
more and more i see ppl saying that this or that card should be HOF. what is wrong with these ppl? HOF is just for classic cards alone. the HOF on Baku and Genn was a one time thing. and they were not even treated as HOF they were rotated earlier than usual, that was all
Warbringer is a common card genius. It didn't do anything until it could be abused by this deck. Sure this deck is beatable if you tech against it extensively. Those cards are ultra dead weight against other decks. But if ladder is flooded with deathrattle rogue then you have to. It's called a warped meta, which is unhealthy for deck diversity and fun, which is what this is supposed to be about.
Warped is a good description of your argument. All your posts, in fact.
KEKW
This whole thread feels like people forgot about tech cards existing or refusing to acknowledge their existence and usefulness when needed in the meta.
Meh.. You have to switch cards/decks continuously to beat the meta. There is many counters to quest rogue,. If you keep facing them and aren't winning, concider what you can do.
If Apothecary Roque becomes the prevalent deck, everyone will simply switch to Spellbreaker and Owl. There are counters for Roque AND Face Hunters, there are none for Control decks vs Galakrond Shaman.
Why tech in some silence: when the meta was a tiny bit more stable and shamans not so overpowered, this kind of deck wouldn't see play because it gets instantly crushed by any aggro/tempo deck.
Rogue can destroy most of the midrange decks and aggro deck destroy rogue. Each deck has a downside just like galakrond shaman. Decks are interactive with each other that’s why there is no deck that has 100% win rate. I would rather this one to be in salt thread.
faced 12 rogues today. all of them had combo turn 3 or 4. fun.
Anubisath Warbringer
Literally describes every midrange deck ever.
That doesn't make it toxic. It only means it's a natural counter to your personal favorite play style.
But you've shown your colors in describing aggro as "simplistic," so whatever.
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