Hearthpwn

I'm playing HS since release and since day-1 I'm constantly hearing that "HS is dying" LUL

Based on my feelings about this game, as a player that has played since beta - yes. It gets old sometimes. Yes, its boring when the meta settles. But no. I am not tired of it, and i will keep playing regardless of how many other players remain. It is quite simply, a good game.

Curious what the new riot game will do to hearthstone..

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Well im pretty sure this time its done for good .. I feel like the Hk incident was a shot to the head by Blizz and now Legends of runeterra is coming to put the final nail to the coffin. Its pretty sad actually that is going to die but it had it coming.. Blizz didnt really give a shit about HS since it was making money, its the same game since beta .. Its a miracle that it lasted that long.

Farewell my friend.

 Yeah yeah like Artifact, we heard the same at that time, before Gwent, a little time ago MTGA and so on. LOL.  Also for ignorant people like you, Riot, which owns LOL and LOR, is owned 100% by Tencent, a CHINESE gaming company. So if you think there will  be any kind of freedom of speech and so on once the game goes to streaming/tournament mode, you are just fooling yourself. 

Also the changes this year(card buffs, arena rotation mode with different expansions on it, bringing back wild cards, it's something.for some people.) 

As for Legends of Runeterra, the gameplay is easy so the game won't die in 1month like Artifact. However in my opinion there are no unique mechanics(all taken from MTG and Hearthstone, with changed names). Also ffs I don't know if you used the same game engine as MTGA to create the game, but the attack of minions is EXACTLY the same as MTGA, come on people. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE752P1X6_Y  on 13:05 1 of the few times it hit top 10 revenue of all games on pc was 2 months ago so say again it is still dying i dare you

I actually stopped playing as I noticed my limited playing time per day as a casual is better spent somewhere else and I am now playing WoW classic and allocating that 3 hours per day for raiding twice a week.

When it was HS 3 hours could equal what? 18-36 matches if you play aggro? And for what? Grinding a pointless ladder for a golden epic the end of the month. 

I still like to tune to play HS for the GM and will watch the finals for sure, but the game for me is pointless now. I can't see anything changing it.

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So, instead of looking at actual data such as quarterly finance reports from Blizzard, you're basing this conclusion solely on your own feelings and twitch numbers. HS used to have 30-40k on twitch and big streamers don't stream it anymore. 30-40k viewers isn't even a fraction of the entire playerbase! Most people just don't watch twitch.

3. The market never lies. More and more cardgames come out, most of them fail, but some don't, shadowverse, mtga etc this also tells us 2 things that alot of people want something different then hearthstone, and that a huge group of gamers prefer other card games then HS.

Your understanding of marketing is second to none!

New card games aren't coming out because people want something new but because other companies are fighting for the portion of the market that HS dominates.

Also, a huge group of gamers prefer other card games:

Shadowerse: https://steamcharts.com/app/453480

Avg players: 3,8k Peak 14k

Yu-gay-lol: https://steamcharts.com/app/601510

Avg players: 6k, Peak 12k

A HUGE GROUP OF PLAYERS! FUCKING. HUGE!

Yes, HS is dying xD go away clown

Thanks for responding!
People like you will make sure  the game doesn't die, and show us blizzard is doing some amazing stuff to keep a certain group of people actually emotionally attached to a corporation while making money out of them, it's really amazing. 

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Curious what the new riot game will do to hearthstone..

 Not much imo. This new game seems really good honestly but hs is still more beautiful and simple to understand

 Yes, HS is slowly dying. This happens at the mid way point between expansions, every expansion without fail. The viewship numbers go down and some people get a bit bored of the meta. But when a new set launches, then it's back to being one of the top games on Twitch.

For me, the number of Twitch viewers is meaningless. A more important measure is how long I have to wait in the queue for a game. If I play Standard I seldom have to wait more than 20 seconds to find a match. Wild can take a bit longer depending on the time of day but it rarely takes me longer than 45 seconds to find an opponent.

That people don't chose to watch HS on Twitch or stream it means little to me although I would miss some player's YT videos if they switched to other games. As long as I can play the game when I want and not have to waste time finding an opponent then I take that as a good sign of the overall health of the game.

Btw, from a financial perspective, companies don't usually pour money into failing ventures. Blizz have continued to invest in HS and the game has not lost any quality. To me this means that I am still willing to drop good money on pre-orders or normal packs from the store.

This isn't to say that things won't change. For now I'm not worried at all. I think HS will be around for another few years at least.

Also, looking at other online TCG's, absolutely none of them appeal to me. MtG is awesome, but I'm not getting sucked into that money death trap again. The new Riot game looks OK but the mechanics don't do it for me and the play style seems clunky and choppy. Gwent sucked from day one and I didn't even bother with Artifact. Just because people play and enjoy Hearthstone doesn't mean they like online TCG's in general. HS has something special about it, the look, the feel, there's just something there that sets it apart from everything else. If HS were to fade away I won't go looking for another online TCG to replace it. I would probably just not play games anymore since HS is the only game I play.

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Quote from Sebzero >>

Quote from Lulchina >>

So, instead of looking at actual data such as quarterly finance reports from Blizzard, you're basing this conclusion solely on your own feelings and twitch numbers. HS used to have 30-40k on twitch and big streamers don't stream it anymore. 30-40k viewers isn't even a fraction of the entire playerbase! Most people just don't watch twitch.

3. The market never lies. More and more cardgames come out, most of them fail, but some don't, shadowverse, mtga etc this also tells us 2 things that alot of people want something different then hearthstone, and that a huge group of gamers prefer other card games then HS.

Your understanding of marketing is second to none!

New card games aren't coming out because people want something new but because other companies are fighting for the portion of the market that HS dominates.

Also, a huge group of gamers prefer other card games:

Shadowerse: https://steamcharts.com/app/453480

Avg players: 3,8k Peak 14k

Yu-gay-lol: https://steamcharts.com/app/601510

Avg players: 6k, Peak 12k

A HUGE GROUP OF PLAYERS! FUCKING. HUGE!

Yes, HS is dying xD go away clown

Thanks for responding!
People like you will make sure  the game doesn't die, and show us blizzard is doing some amazing stuff to keep a certain group of people actually emotionally attached to a corporation while making money out of them, it's really amazing. 

You come here saying ''hs is dead lul'' and when proven false, with actual statistical evidence, instead of backing up your objectively false claims with further arguments or conceding you answer with ''you're a fanboy amazing huehuehue''. Yep, you sure have proven your point here, buddy! Really amazing.

You insulting me, to "go away clown" proves your very enthusiastic and fanatic about Hearthstone. 

You were right, about one thing:
Ccg like shadowverse, yugioh arent popular, in fact you didn't call out other card games that failed to reach the popularity like Hearthstone has.
1. Gwent
2. Elderscroll Legends
3. Artifact.
The list goes on.

However: the fact that Gwent and Artifact were extremely popular on release tells us something that should not be overseen...

4. On release Gwent and Artifact were very popular, more then Hearthstone.
5. The fact these games on release were more popular tells us, that most people want something that is more fun then hearthstone.
6. Thing is these games coulnd deliver, however there will be another ccg with exceptional motivation, innovation and recources that will be able to capatilize on the weaknesses of Hearthstone, that game will probally be as popular like Gwent or Artifact on release and it will be able to hold the attention of it's audience.

Developers aren't just motivated by money but also by being better and creative, it's the nature of the ego and the artist.

To me, HS is dying because of the lack of balance. Blizzard's intention is not to make HS enjoyable long term, but to convince players to play the game and buy packs with real money. "Look kids, we released a balance patch, come and explore new decks." And by balance, they just shifted the power of one class to another, you call that balance. To me, if you nerf a deck, it's ideal to soft nerf some other decks which the main was countering in order to counter balance things a little.

I also played MTGA and at first during closed BETA it was alright but after that, it looks like it's following the same path HS does, and that is to create absurd broken cards or combos in order to promote pack sales.

This Halloween event is kinda stupid. They brought back the most powerful cards from older sets. I'm sure there were other cards in those sets which didn't see any play when they were in Standard because of the broken ones, why didn't they bring those instead?

So yeah, if you want to have fun in games, play single player ones.

While I don't think the game is anywhere close to dying, I certainly seem to be waiting longer for matches to start.

Would be interesting to see what would happen if MTG Arena got a mobile version.

Quote from Elenvin >>

While I don't think the game is anywhere close to dying, I certainly seem to be waiting longer for matches to start.

Would be interesting to see what would happen if MTG Arena got a mobile version.

I experience the same thing, wich is one of the reasons why I was motivated to write this article.

I recently tried MW2 it is so much fun because you need to use tactics, no RNG but less replayability of course. Also I like the fact that is super fast: some games end in 10 seconds, some can last up to 7 mins, but most are won/lost at 3 mins max.

It is pay2win, but not hard anf you can get losts of stuff if you spend $10, I haven't yet, but considering switching for a while from HS to it (Mushroom wars).

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The game has dying since Beta according to the Forum pundits.

Nothing to see here.

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