I’m sorry but you can call it whatever you want. Using blizzards platform to advocate political violence (you might see it as harmless, but I assure it pissed off a lot people, in a country where this speech would call for violent action) is grounds to demonetize regardless of how PC blizzards actually is. Even if he felt the need to liberalize his country, why leak it on someone else’s platform?
I’m sorry but you can call it whatever you want. Using blizzards platform to advocate political violence (you might see it as harmless, but I assure it pissed off a lot people, in a country where this speech would call for violent action) is grounds to demonetize regardless of how PC blizzards actually is. Even if he felt the need to liberalize his country, why leak it on someone else’s platform?
doesn't matter. as common everyday people, we don't really get much a chance to voice our opinion and enact change in a meaningful manner, besides those of us lucky enough to have meaningful votes. One way we can enact change is with our $$$ and if enough of us do it, they have to listen.
Keep politics and sports separated. Pretty normal stuff. You are suspended as a soccer player as well for political gestures.
As a sports player, you are not punished for criticizing democratically led nations like America. Only powerful dictatorships. You see athletes bitching about Trump, Boris Johnson and government policy all the time and it doesn't matter because their titanic sponsors don't care.
They are punished when money is at stake. Money from Saudi Arabia, India, China or other socialists.
Oh come on. Yes they are. Barcelona has been punished for fans showing a catalunia flag. Swiss national players punished for showing an albanian symbol. there is tons more examples. So spain and switzerland are not democratic? In the US people had an outcry when they took a knee during the anthem and people wanted to suspend them. without saying a word. On the other side, you obviously also get punished, if you say something racist.
Notably, all examples are on or near the court. In their freetime they can do what they want.
Again, it should not be part of this. Keep it separately, there is plenty of ways to show support outside the arena.
Banning a player from HS, the world goes crazy. Invading a country to suppress and eliminate(I fear that it will be a genocide, mark my words) a "terrorist" group (Turkey's invasion to clear out Kurds), not a single word in reddit, HS, and so on.
WHAT a wonderful world we are all living.
Blizzards action is a direct politicial statement, which means that the stakeholders (that are all of us playing the game)have to face a moral and politicial decision whether they like it or not.
This is the difference to the usual absence of politicial discussions at hearthstone related places.
I’m sorry but you can call it whatever you want. Using blizzards platform to advocate political violence (you might see it as harmless, but I assure it pissed off a lot people, in a country where this speech would call for violent action) is grounds to demonetize regardless of how PC blizzards actually is. Even if he felt the need to liberalize his country, why leak it on someone else’s platform?
one country, two systems. i'm sure if China kept their part of the deal, none of this would be happening. also, btw, don't forget about Xianjiang, and the Uyghers there. or Tianamen square.
Invading a country to suppress and eliminate(I fear that it will be a genocide, mark my words) a "terrorist" group (Turkey's invasion to clear out Kurds), not a single word in reddit, HS, and so on.
P.S 2 Don't start talking crap about we don't talk politics in game forums, because that's this post about. Maybe the Kurds' issue is not a video game issue(I am sure they wish that was), but nonetheless is political.
Blitzchung's situation originated literally DURING hearthstone grandmasters and relates to the Hong Kong protests.
You've just hypocritically brought up Turkey and the Kurds which has nothing to do with hearthstone whatsoever. While chastising others for politicizing game forums.
And where is my hypocrisis sir? Nowhere. Unless you support the invasion, but you have the right to do so, I won't critisize it. And I didn't say to anyone to NOT politicize game forums, I said, don't give in your responses the usual no-politica crap. So, BETTER learn to read what the other has written and then respond.
My point was, that if a Kurd was playing HS and then someone called him while streaming and told him to defend the invasion, everyone would go mad. So please f*ck off, with your hypocrisis that you defend Blitzchung , I bet you are just a spoiled kid selling democracy in forums while doing nothing in real life.
HYPOCRISY, not Hypocrisis. Please learn English before trying to politicize gaming forums.
If I mistook your comments it was probably because you have a hard time expressing yourself properly. Democracy is nothing to look down on. I'm sorry if you don't have it where you come from.
Blizzard is shameless at this point. Not sure what people expected. Goes to show all the sjw vibes in their games are corporate consensus designed to bring about maximum profit from their chosen demographic (for those that hadn't already assumed or realized.)
... and this is why they discourage political discussions in the forums, as well as why they don't run political stories on the site.
Exactly. Hearthstone / Streams / forums should all remain apolitical. There is other places and other media for this.
You guys are wrong tho you cannot just prevent people to speak politics and claim that you are apolitical. Because banning people from talking about politics means that you are taking a political stance like what happened with Blizchung today.
In order to be apolitical you suppose to let people discuss politics as much as they want but don't take any sides or make any comments about it.
... and this is why they discourage political discussions in the forums, as well as why they don't run political stories on the site.
Exactly. Hearthstone / Streams / forums should all remain apolitical. There is other places and other media for this.
You guys are wrong tho you cannot just prevent people to speak politics and claim that you are apolitical. Because banning people from talking about politics means that you are taking a political stance like what happened with Blizchung today.
In order to be apolitical you suppose to let people discuss politics as much as they want but don't take any sides or make any comments about it.
You can either allow everyone to speak politics and thus risk that you suddenly are abused as a political plattform and you have to constantly say "Blizzard distances itself from all political statements" or you just ban all political speeches no matter what.
Just because a cause does align with your viewpoint (and in this case, it does for me too), does not mean it belongs to Hearthstone. Blizzards actions does not say "Hail China", it says "we dont want to be involved at all with all this". Both views have the same motivation of keeping your business alive and apolitical.
You can either allow everyone to speak politics and thus risk that you suddenly are abused as a political plattform and you have to constantly say "Blizzard distances itself from all political statements" or you just ban all political speeches no matter what.
Just because a cause does align with your viewpoint (and in this case, it does for me too), does not mean it belongs to Hearthstone. Blizzards actions does not say "Hail China", it says "we dont want to be involved at all with all this". Both views have the same motivation of keeping your business alive and apolitical.
We don't need any of your rational, nuanced thinking here! This is the internet, sir, and it will not be tolerated!
... and this is why they discourage political discussions in the forums, as well as why they don't run political stories on the site.
Exactly. Hearthstone / Streams / forums should all remain apolitical. There is other places and other media for this.
You guys are wrong tho you cannot just prevent people to speak politics and claim that you are apolitical. Because banning people from talking about politics means that you are taking a political stance like what happened with Blizchung today.
In order to be apolitical you suppose to let people discuss politics as much as they want but don't take any sides or make any comments about it.
You can either allow everyone to speak politics and thus risk that you suddenly are abused as a political plattform and you have to constantly say "Blizzard distances itself from all political statements" or you just ban all political speeches no matter what.
Just because a cause does align with your viewpoint (and in this case, it does for me too), does not mean it belongs to Hearthstone. Blizzards actions does not say "Hail China", it says "we dont want to be involved at all with all this". Both views have the same motivation of keeping your business alive and apolitical.
Lol you cannot be more wrong they can get abused as political platform now don't you see Blitzchung gained more attention because of blizzard ban also there might be protests against blizzard in the future events.
Also there are people who gives no shit about blizzard or its games so getting banned by blizzard means nothing for them at all they can easily abuse Blizzard events.
Also todays events speaks for itself doesn't they. I am not the only one who criticize Blizzard they got criticized for taking side of the chinese government for money in every platform I visited today.
Companions and friends of the Hearthstone community, I propose a strike.
I believe we should delete the game as some, including myself and some Reddit users have, or stop spending money on digital goods from blizzard.
I highly doubt that these acts go unnoticed for long, and that they will, at the very least have a lasting impact and possibly affect Blizzard directly.
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C'thun needs more attack for my full power to be unleashed.
NBA is doing the exact same thing with the Rockets GM tweets. Politics are bad for business. Money is the core of American institutions, not integrity. This is expected behavior unfortunately.
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Your a dad? I wonder what you will say to your kids when it comes addressing a bully.
I’m sorry but you can call it whatever you want. Using blizzards platform to advocate political violence (you might see it as harmless, but I assure it pissed off a lot people, in a country where this speech would call for violent action) is grounds to demonetize regardless of how PC blizzards actually is. Even if he felt the need to liberalize his country, why leak it on someone else’s platform?
Maybe because China block most of media? Geez...
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doesn't matter. as common everyday people, we don't really get much a chance to voice our opinion and enact change in a meaningful manner, besides those of us lucky enough to have meaningful votes. One way we can enact change is with our $$$ and if enough of us do it, they have to listen.
Oh come on. Yes they are. Barcelona has been punished for fans showing a catalunia flag. Swiss national players punished for showing an albanian symbol. there is tons more examples. So spain and switzerland are not democratic? In the US people had an outcry when they took a knee during the anthem and people wanted to suspend them. without saying a word. On the other side, you obviously also get punished, if you say something racist.
Notably, all examples are on or near the court. In their freetime they can do what they want.
Again, it should not be part of this. Keep it separately, there is plenty of ways to show support outside the arena.
Occasionally gives helpful advice.
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Blizzards action is a direct politicial statement, which means that the stakeholders (that are all of us playing the game)have to face a moral and politicial decision whether they like it or not.
This is the difference to the usual absence of politicial discussions at hearthstone related places.
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I’m sorry but you can call it whatever you want. Using blizzards platform to advocate political violence (you might see it as harmless, but I assure it pissed off a lot people, in a country where this speech would call for violent action) is grounds to demonetize regardless of how PC blizzards actually is. Even if he felt the need to liberalize his country, why leak it on someone else’s platform?
one country, two systems. i'm sure if China kept their part of the deal, none of this would be happening. also, btw, don't forget about Xianjiang, and the Uyghers there. or Tianamen square.
HYPOCRISY, not Hypocrisis. Please learn English before trying to politicize gaming forums.
If I mistook your comments it was probably because you have a hard time expressing yourself properly. Democracy is nothing to look down on. I'm sorry if you don't have it where you come from.
Wow, this is what the world is coming too! Communist oppression for everbody. Sad times.
Blizzard is shameless at this point. Not sure what people expected. Goes to show all the sjw vibes in their games are corporate consensus designed to bring about maximum profit from their chosen demographic (for those that hadn't already assumed or realized.)
Using a childish card game event to express political opinion lmao. Good decision from blizzard this time.
China isnt a communist country anymore.
It has turned into a fascist dictatorship which embraces a new style capitalism.
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You guys are wrong tho you cannot just prevent people to speak politics and claim that you are apolitical. Because banning people from talking about politics means that you are taking a political stance like what happened with Blizchung today.
In order to be apolitical you suppose to let people discuss politics as much as they want but don't take any sides or make any comments about it.
You can either allow everyone to speak politics and thus risk that you suddenly are abused as a political plattform and you have to constantly say "Blizzard distances itself from all political statements" or you just ban all political speeches no matter what.
Just because a cause does align with your viewpoint (and in this case, it does for me too), does not mean it belongs to Hearthstone. Blizzards actions does not say "Hail China", it says "we dont want to be involved at all with all this". Both views have the same motivation of keeping your business alive and apolitical.
Occasionally gives helpful advice.
We don't need any of your rational, nuanced thinking here! This is the internet, sir, and it will not be tolerated!
Lol you cannot be more wrong they can get abused as political platform now don't you see Blitzchung gained more attention because of blizzard ban also there might be protests against blizzard in the future events.
Also there are people who gives no shit about blizzard or its games so getting banned by blizzard means nothing for them at all they can easily abuse Blizzard events.
Also todays events speaks for itself doesn't they. I am not the only one who criticize Blizzard they got criticized for taking side of the chinese government for money in every platform I visited today.
Companions and friends of the Hearthstone community, I propose a strike.
I believe we should delete the game as some, including myself and some Reddit users have, or stop spending money on digital goods from blizzard.
I highly doubt that these acts go unnoticed for long, and that they will, at the very least have a lasting impact and possibly affect Blizzard directly.
C'thun needs more attack for my full power to be unleashed.
Streamers, like Kripp, are totally ignoring the issue. Their greed turns my stomach. Kripp is already a multi millionaire, grow some balls.
NBA is doing the exact same thing with the Rockets GM tweets. Politics are bad for business. Money is the core of American institutions, not integrity. This is expected behavior unfortunately.