You don’t see any counter to it? You can chiose from many secret disruptive minions and spells, you can heal and armor up out of the range of their burn, you can destroy their Aluneth... stop pretending that there is no counterplay against secret mage if you just choose not to play it.
Secret Mage is literally the top dog rn on wild, the deck is hyper aggresive and can burn you down stupid fast so it's definitely worth the craft if that's your jam (winning I mean). Also you don't need Barnes for Big Priest, it's a pretty nice card to play but big priest wins via all the insane amount of mana cheat it generates with the revives, even before the nerfs you could still play the deck without Barnes and be completely fine. Also it's not like big priest is on a good spot now, it feels like low tier 2/ high tier 3 material tbh people just hate it over anything else cause when it works you just feel like you got cheated and lost to straight up bullshit that blizzard should't have ever supported on the first place (Which is complete true btw).
After seeing this deck (somehow I did not play for some time in ranked wild recently), I'm pissed that wild died. There will be no interesting matchups because of the power factor of this deck and its dominance. Frankly speaking I don't see any counter to it, it has tools against aggro and is very quick in killing by itself. The worst thing is that blizzard usually not care about wild, so I don't expect any nerf to that... Thank you blizzard!
It seems the meta is dominated by it - take a look at the numbers of played matches taken from HS deck tracker - 18k this trash (in slight variations - one or two cards changed), next winrate deck - 3.5k, 10% winrate less than mage.
I wish you all mages fun and interactive mirror matches! It is time to stop playing ranked
It is the best aggro deck in wild at the moment, but its far from unbeatable. Yesterday I have played some Renolock in the rank 3-2 range and I have faced like 5-6 secret mages, only lost once because Zeph has failed me.
The popularity and power level of the deck just means that every deck should run some anti-secret tech, even secret mage.
SoU gave us a nice shift in the wild meta. Now you dont see big priests and suddenly control decks are very playable. I dont mind this change, IMO the wild meta is a lot better now.
Since we are on topic and its a new season and the ladder is infested with this cancer, any suggestion for decks to counter it? Tried and tested link would be appreciated, I tried Odd Warrior but they even shred through that amount of armor as I was dead by turn 8 instead of 6.
IMO the biggest culprit is the Cloud Prince, 6 damage and a body is just ridiculous, it should be 4. Anyway the post isnt about how broken the deck is, I just need a tried counter to it which I assume has to be Warrior (my list didnt work) or Druid?
Since we are on topic and its a new season and the ladder is infested with this cancer, any suggestion for decks to counter it? Tried and tested link would be appreciated, I tried Odd Warrior but they even shred through that amount of armor as I was dead by turn 8 instead of 6.
IMO the biggest culprit is the Cloud Prince, 6 damage and a body is just ridiculous, it should be 4. Anyway the post isnt about how broken the deck is, I just need a tried counter to it which I assume has to be Warrior (my list didnt work) or Druid?
I teched Renolock a bunch against that crap and my win-rate is about 80% with it, sadly I lost a lot against other control decks which are extremely greedy in an aggro meta for some reason. I've been doing well against them with Raza Priest too, got Legend with it last month, but sadly you also lose a lot to other control decks if they're greedy.
Ya but to ruin a list like Renolock with techs (what did you tech btw beside Eater of Secrets ?) just for this match up is as you said feels weird and you lose against the other control which are the other common part.
What I am trying to establish is do you counter the deck just by adding certain tech cards to existing decks? Or is there a real hard counter, because as many have stated Armor Warrior fell flat on its face with me.
Ya but to ruin a list like Renolock with techs (what did you tech btw beside Eater of Secrets ?) just for this match up is as you said feels weird and you lose against the other control which are the other common part.
What I am trying to establish is do you counter the deck just by adding certain tech cards to existing decks? Or is there a real hard counter, because as many have stated Armor Warrior fell flat on its face with me.
So, this is my impression:
Since the new expansion came out, I started playing secret mage (I didn't know it would be so overpopulated). This deck is broken. Period.
If you draw well enough, not even your tech cards will help your opponent (some days ago I beat a shaman with 2 Eater of Secrets). That's the same as ruining your deck with things like Gravelsnogut Knight or Hungry Ettin against big priest... it's pointless; you will lose one or two precious slots in your deck that will screw your gameplan and won't help you most of the times against these decks..
I still can't find another deck to counter it and perform well against other decks in the current meta.
Maybe Reno decks can find their way. You need lots of healing. But then again, they lose badly to combo decks, which are all around in wild...
So, if anybody has a good answer, it will be welcome (btw, I stopped playing this deck since I hate mirror matches)
Ya but to ruin a list like Renolock with techs (what did you tech btw beside Eater of Secrets ?) just for this match up is as you said feels weird and you lose against the other control which are the other common part.
What I am trying to establish is do you counter the deck just by adding certain tech cards to existing decks? Or is there a real hard counter, because as many have stated Armor Warrior fell flat on its face with me.
So, this is my impression:
Since the new expansion came out, I started playing secret mage (I didn't know it would be so overpopulated). This deck is broken. Period.
If you draw well enough, not even your tech cards will help your opponent (some days ago I beat a shaman with 2 Eater of Secrets). That's the same as ruining your deck with things like Gravelsnogut Knight or Hungry Ettin against big priest... it's pointless; you will lose one or two precious slots in your deck that will screw your gameplan and won't help you most of the times against these decks..
I still can't find another deck to counter it and perform well against other decks in the current meta.
Maybe Reno decks can find their way. You need lots of healing. But then again, they lose badly to combo decks, which are all around in wild...
So, if anybody has a good answer, it will be welcome (btw, I stopped playing this deck since I hate mirror matches)
but they really don't lose against combo decks, almost all reno decks run brann, zola and dirty rat, how do you lose if you draw that? lol
Ya but to ruin a list like Renolock with techs (what did you tech btw beside Eater of Secrets ?) just for this match up is as you said feels weird and you lose against the other control which are the other common part.
What I am trying to establish is do you counter the deck just by adding certain tech cards to existing decks? Or is there a real hard counter, because as many have stated Armor Warrior fell flat on its face with me.
So, this is my impression:
Since the new expansion came out, I started playing secret mage (I didn't know it would be so overpopulated). This deck is broken. Period.
If you draw well enough, not even your tech cards will help your opponent (some days ago I beat a shaman with 2 Eater of Secrets). That's the same as ruining your deck with things like Gravelsnogut Knight or Hungry Ettin against big priest... it's pointless; you will lose one or two precious slots in your deck that will screw your gameplan and won't help you most of the times against these decks..
I still can't find another deck to counter it and perform well against other decks in the current meta.
Maybe Reno decks can find their way. You need lots of healing. But then again, they lose badly to combo decks, which are all around in wild...
So, if anybody has a good answer, it will be welcome (btw, I stopped playing this deck since I hate mirror matches)
but they really don't lose against combo decks, almost all reno decks run brann, zola and dirty rat, how do you lose if you draw that? lol
There are several combo decks that doesn't rely on only one or two minions. Just to name a few: Darkest Hour, Big Resurect Priest, Cubelock, Anyfin Paladin, etc... Dirty rat and Gnomeferatu often aren't enough (yes, they help, but aren't like Skulking Geist).
I'm tired of this deck in Wild. Wild = Secret Mage, Secret Mage, Res Priest, Secret Mage, Res Priest, McThun Warloc, Even Shaman, Secret Mage, Even Shaman, Ctl Warrior, Murloc Paladin, Secret Mage, Res Priest oh and ... Res Priest.
Seriously - Blizzard should craft specific Tech Cards JUST for wild.
You don’t see any counter to it? You can chiose from many secret disruptive minions and spells, you can heal and armor up out of the range of their burn, you can destroy their Aluneth... stop pretending that there is no counterplay against secret mage if you just choose not to play it.
Secret Mage is literally the top dog rn on wild, the deck is hyper aggresive and can burn you down stupid fast so it's definitely worth the craft if that's your jam (winning I mean). Also you don't need Barnes for Big Priest, it's a pretty nice card to play but big priest wins via all the insane amount of mana cheat it generates with the revives, even before the nerfs you could still play the deck without Barnes and be completely fine. Also it's not like big priest is on a good spot now, it feels like low tier 2/ high tier 3 material tbh people just hate it over anything else cause when it works you just feel like you got cheated and lost to straight up bullshit that blizzard should't have ever supported on the first place (Which is complete true btw).
Please don't craft it, I don't want to see any more of them :)
Additionally - I was playing against one today with a Renolock, and on turn 8 I play Zephrys the Great into 3 secrets.
I guess he still has a lot to learn - no anti-secret tech for me.
But yeah, anyway, I guess it's a good deck, or something.
It is the best aggro deck in wild at the moment, but its far from unbeatable. Yesterday I have played some Renolock in the rank 3-2 range and I have faced like 5-6 secret mages, only lost once because Zeph has failed me.
The popularity and power level of the deck just means that every deck should run some anti-secret tech, even secret mage.
SoU gave us a nice shift in the wild meta. Now you dont see big priests and suddenly control decks are very playable. I dont mind this change, IMO the wild meta is a lot better now.
I see Secret Mage as top deck (in my current rank, r2-r5 EU)
Since we are on topic and its a new season and the ladder is infested with this cancer, any suggestion for decks to counter it? Tried and tested link would be appreciated, I tried Odd Warrior but they even shred through that amount of armor as I was dead by turn 8 instead of 6.
IMO the biggest culprit is the Cloud Prince, 6 damage and a body is just ridiculous, it should be 4. Anyway the post isnt about how broken the deck is, I just need a tried counter to it which I assume has to be Warrior (my list didnt work) or Druid?
I teched Renolock a bunch against that crap and my win-rate is about 80% with it, sadly I lost a lot against other control decks which are extremely greedy in an aggro meta for some reason. I've been doing well against them with Raza Priest too, got Legend with it last month, but sadly you also lose a lot to other control decks if they're greedy.
Ya but to ruin a list like Renolock with techs (what did you tech btw beside Eater of Secrets ?) just for this match up is as you said feels weird and you lose against the other control which are the other common part.
What I am trying to establish is do you counter the deck just by adding certain tech cards to existing decks? Or is there a real hard counter, because as many have stated Armor Warrior fell flat on its face with me.
From 17 to Legend with secret mage
It's awesome deck
Signature move
Last season I used this decklist, as I didn't want to craft Aluneth only for several tries:
https://hsreplay.net/decks/qjjEpa2gYDBYYqTDqDcZp/
Worked fine, rushed from rank 7 to 5 rather easily. You also may replace the Ethereal Arcanist with a Leeroy Jenkins if you want.
Is there a counter to this new plague called secret mage? Can someone suggest some decks?
So, this is my impression:
Since the new expansion came out, I started playing secret mage (I didn't know it would be so overpopulated). This deck is broken. Period.
If you draw well enough, not even your tech cards will help your opponent (some days ago I beat a shaman with 2 Eater of Secrets). That's the same as ruining your deck with things like Gravelsnogut Knight or Hungry Ettin against big priest... it's pointless; you will lose one or two precious slots in your deck that will screw your gameplan and won't help you most of the times against these decks..
I still can't find another deck to counter it and perform well against other decks in the current meta.
Maybe Reno decks can find their way. You need lots of healing. But then again, they lose badly to combo decks, which are all around in wild...
So, if anybody has a good answer, it will be welcome (btw, I stopped playing this deck since I hate mirror matches)
Yup... The deck is opressive like mech paladin
but they really don't lose against combo decks, almost all reno decks run brann, zola and dirty rat, how do you lose if you draw that? lol
There are several combo decks that doesn't rely on only one or two minions. Just to name a few: Darkest Hour, Big Resurect Priest, Cubelock, Anyfin Paladin, etc... Dirty rat and Gnomeferatu often aren't enough (yes, they help, but aren't like Skulking Geist).
Imagine playing wild and crafting cards for it 😂
I dont get the joke.
I'm tired of this deck in Wild. Wild = Secret Mage, Secret Mage, Res Priest, Secret Mage, Res Priest, McThun Warloc, Even Shaman, Secret Mage, Even Shaman, Ctl Warrior, Murloc Paladin, Secret Mage, Res Priest oh and ... Res Priest.
Seriously - Blizzard should craft specific Tech Cards JUST for wild.
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