I've played Hearthstone since beta. My best rank is around 4, but I don't know what's happening as I never reach that rank again.
I have these periods where I can get a decent rank, like 7 or 8, but then the very next month I can barely breach 12-10.
Like now, for instance. First few days of the expansion I had like a 80% win rate with Reno mage. Now, a week later? I'm down to like 30%, and I don't win with decks like Highlander Hunter or Choose Druid at all. But it doesn't really matter as it's with all types of decks, I have these highs and suddenly I lose like every game.
I'm getting pissed, because as much as I love the game I'm tired of losing, and losing, and losing and these streaks just makes me want to quit the game altogether. I don't understand why though,l as evidently I have the capacity to reach high ranks. Meanwhile, I have all these friends who make reaching Legend sound like a breeze.
Is anybody else like this? How did you solve it? I'm literally on a loss streak from rank almost 5 to 10 right now, I haven't won a single game.
If you only reached rank 4 once and are not able to at least climb to rank 5 and higher on a constant basis, it is very likely that you still make a decent amount of mistakes. Are you doing anything to actively boost your level of playing?
If you only reached rank 4 once and are not able to at least climb to rank 5 and higher on a constant basis, it is very likely that you still make a decent amount of mistakes. Are you doing anything to actively boost your level of playing?
Can't say I do. I mostly just play a couple of games and just try to think of what teh current best play would be, but I don't really spend too much time thinking, I tend to play whatever "feels" like the best play that comes to mind. What would be good ways to improve? I've been thinking about these coaches, but they are really expensive.
And yeah, before anybody argues for it, I know that I am already better than the average player just by reaching rank 15 or whatever it is, and that I'm in fact at a good place even if I'm not legend and that I may have unrealistic expectations of me when I only play like 10-15 games a day. I would still like to improve though.
In the first days of a new expansion there isn't really a meta, everyone is experimenting with "bad/worse" decks to see what works and what doesn't. After like a week of a new expansion the meta is a bit more established and deck are generally a lot better than in the first week.
Do you change some (Tech)cards in your decks depending on which decks are more popular? For Example: When weapons are popular do you add weapon removal? or when mechnatized mechs are popular do you add silence cards into your decks? If not then that might perhabs be one of the reasons.
Every deck has its strengts and weaknesses. If your playing a deck that is being hard countered by another deck, and that other deck is the most popular deck in the meta, then it might be best to either pick another deck or class to play, preferably one that counters the most popular deck, so you can grind wins.
Also i don't know how well choose druid is doing these days, it was a strong deck but it's been slowly declining. But secret highlander hunter is a strong deck. Maybe you were unlucky with your matchups/draw.
Altho switching classes might remove a lot of fun if your forced to switch from your favorite class to the one you hate to play most. Also changing your deck to counter the most popular one might mean you have to play archetypes you also dislike. (For example you might be a control player, but you have to force yourself to play aggro decks to win) It might be a good idea to ask your friends what deck they reached legend with, maybe they can share their decks with you
Sorry for this big comment, i hope it might help you at least a tiny bit!
I don't know if you want my advice, I made it to rank 7 once :D . With great risk of being attacked by the confirmation bias trolls, I would say to come back tomorrow, play 3-4 games and then quit for the day. rng.zues is punishing you, but he has no long term memory.
Or just run murloc agro i guess is what most people do.
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If you only reached rank 4 once and are not able to at least climb to rank 5 and higher on a constant basis, it is very likely that you still make a decent amount of mistakes. Are you doing anything to actively boost your level of playing?
Can't say I do. I mostly just play a couple of games and just try to think of what teh current best play would be, but I don't really spend too much time thinking, I tend to play whatever "feels" like the best play that comes to mind. What would be good ways to improve? I've been thinking about these coaches, but they are really expensive.
The best ways to improve differ from person to person - Some people need a coach to tell them what they're doing wrong, some just need to play a ton and for others it's enough to watch streams/guides or even just reading about the game. What server are you on? If you want I can add you and I can spectate some of your games or something like that. (I'm a bit rusty since I just started playing again after a break, but I have been legend a bunch of times and been top 10 a couple times too)
If you only reached rank 4 once and are not able to at least climb to rank 5 and higher on a constant basis, it is very likely that you still make a decent amount of mistakes. Are you doing anything to actively boost your level of playing?
Can't say I do. I mostly just play a couple of games and just try to think of what teh current best play would be, but I don't really spend too much time thinking, I tend to play whatever "feels" like the best play that comes to mind. What would be good ways to improve? I've been thinking about these coaches, but they are really expensive.
The best ways to improve differ from person to person - Some people need a coach to tell them what they're doing wrong, some just need to play a ton and for others it's enough to watch streams/guides or even just reading about the game. What server are you on? If you want I can add you and I can spectate some of your games or something like that. (I'm a bit rusty since I just started playing again after a break, but I have been legend a bunch of times and been top 10 a couple times too)
Thanks for the offer, but I think I might be too unreliable to set something up. The thing is I only play at work when there's literally nothing to do, as I have no proper computer at home and I refuse to play on mobile, so my hearthstone time is sporadic, and I have to quit the moment a job appears.
I know this is a longer-standing issue, but if you've already played 3+ new decks in this week (and by the sound of it, not just out of experimentation, but tried to play them competitively), I'd say you're switching decks way too often.
From my experience, if I build/refine a deck myself (which means I know why each card is in there), it takes the whole season to get to a comfortable place (know how to mulligan and react to other meta decks). I don't play much though (~2-3 games per day), so you could translate this into ~100 games. However, it is a 100 spaced out games, which I would argue is better than just chaining them in a day or two, as it gives you time to think about them and change a card or two every few games (don't change too much and too often, same as with decks).
If I play something I picked up from someone else, it will still take time to get used to the deck (again, dozens of games), and it is very recommended to read about card choices or at least watch the designer or a pro play the deck on high level (someone who will not just play, but also describe his thought process while playing).
In short, I'd say pick a deck, one deck, and run it the whole season. If you're running into a certain problem repeatedly (e.g. dying to aggro, or a combo, or a deck), tech in cards against that until it is no longer a problem. Also, accept that each deck will have a crappy win rate vs some decks, so if the meta is really full of your nemesis decks, it is time for something else.
I know this is a longer-standing issue, but if you've already played 3+ new decks in this week (and by the sound of it, not just out of experimentation, but tried to play them competitively), I'd say you're switching decks way too often.
From my experience, if I build/refine a deck myself (which means I know why each card is in there), it takes the whole season to get to a comfortable place (know how to mulligan and react to other meta decks). I don't play much though (~2-3 games per day), so you could translate this into ~100 games. However, it is a 100 spaced out games, which I would argue is better than just chaining them in a day or two, as it gives you time to think about them and change a card or two every few games (don't change too much and too often, same as with decks).
If I play something I picked up from someone else, it will still take time to get used to the deck (again, dozens of games), and it is very recommended to read about card choices or at least watch the designer or a pro play the deck on high level (someone who will not just play, but also describe his thought process while playing).
In short, I'd say pick a deck, one deck, and run it the whole season. If you're running into a certain problem repeatedly (e.g. dying to aggro, or a combo, or a deck), tech in cards against that until it is no longer a problem. Also, accept that each deck will have a crappy win rate vs some decks, so if the meta is really full of your nemesis decks, it is time for something else.
yeah, you're right. I normally rotate between 5-6 different decks and play whatever I'm in the mood for. It's especially true at the start of an expansion where I'm probably rotating 10 different decks.
If you only reached rank 4 once and are not able to at least climb to rank 5 and higher on a constant basis, it is very likely that you still make a decent amount of mistakes. Are you doing anything to actively boost your level of playing?
Can't say I do. I mostly just play a couple of games and just try to think of what teh current best play would be, but I don't really spend too much time thinking, I tend to play whatever "feels" like the best play that comes to mind. What would be good ways to improve? I've been thinking about these coaches, but they are really expensive.
And yeah, before anybody argues for it, I know that I am already better than the average player just by reaching rank 15 or whatever it is, and that I'm in fact at a good place even if I'm not legend and that I may have unrealistic expectations of me when I only play like 10-15 games a day. I would still like to improve though.
You say, you don't spend much time thinking and just often play what feels right. If you want to get better, you should play rather slow and ask yourself questions while playing, like for example: what are you hoping to achieve with a certain play? What would be the best answer your opponent could have for that play at this spot in the game? Or more general questions, like: Are you the offensive or defensive player in the matchup? It is important to know the role you have in certain spots, because f. e. a control deck can suddenly follow an aggressive gameplan during a game when the circumstances are right. You also should always ask yourself what you probably want to do the following turn and possibly the turn after.
And then of course, there are important basics, like: are you still making mistakes trading? Mulligan is a thing of its own, where even good players often tend to make a lot of mistakes.
Also, if you are only playing at work, where you can't be a 100% focused, because things always can come up that distract or even interrupt you, this is probably another reason why you don't improve.
But I mean, if you play HS just like that, why do you even consider taking a coach for money? Why is it that important to you, if you, and I don't mean that badly, play "casual".
It's tough to say without watching you play any games, but maybe you had a high winrate because the meta hadn't been figured out yet and now that it's somewhat solidified people know how to play against the decks you're using.
Are you using a deck tracker ? This tool really help you to play around certain cards you opponent have already played or not. It can also deliver useful data like how much you face other archetype, so you can adapt better to what you are playing against.
Also, you don't need a coach, you need to watch pro players on stream play the same deck than you, and learn what they are doing and WHY they are doing it. By doing so, you will improve a lot and see what mistakes you have been doing for a long time maybe.
I've played Hearthstone since beta. My best rank is around 4, but I don't know what's happening as I never reach that rank again.
I have these periods where I can get a decent rank, like 7 or 8, but then the very next month I can barely breach 12-10.
Like now, for instance. First few days of the expansion I had like a 80% win rate with Reno mage. Now, a week later? I'm down to like 30%, and I don't win with decks like Highlander Hunter or Choose Druid at all. But it doesn't really matter as it's with all types of decks, I have these highs and suddenly I lose like every game.
I'm getting pissed, because as much as I love the game I'm tired of losing, and losing, and losing and these streaks just makes me want to quit the game altogether. I don't understand why though,l as evidently I have the capacity to reach high ranks. Meanwhile, I have all these friends who make reaching Legend sound like a breeze.
Is anybody else like this? How did you solve it? I'm literally on a loss streak from rank almost 5 to 10 right now, I haven't won a single game.
If you only reached rank 4 once and are not able to at least climb to rank 5 and higher on a constant basis, it is very likely that you still make a decent amount of mistakes. Are you doing anything to actively boost your level of playing?
Can't say I do. I mostly just play a couple of games and just try to think of what teh current best play would be, but I don't really spend too much time thinking, I tend to play whatever "feels" like the best play that comes to mind.
What would be good ways to improve? I've been thinking about these coaches, but they are really expensive.
And yeah, before anybody argues for it, I know that I am already better than the average player just by reaching rank 15 or whatever it is, and that I'm in fact at a good place even if I'm not legend and that I may have unrealistic expectations of me when I only play like 10-15 games a day. I would still like to improve though.
I think rank 5 is too ez.
Legend only if I have time.
Try watching streamers, get better.
I playing since 2014 too.
In the first days of a new expansion there isn't really a meta, everyone is experimenting with "bad/worse" decks to see what works and what doesn't. After like a week of a new expansion the meta is a bit more established and deck are generally a lot better than in the first week.
Do you change some (Tech)cards in your decks depending on which decks are more popular? For Example: When weapons are popular do you add weapon removal? or when mechnatized mechs are popular do you add silence cards into your decks? If not then that might perhabs be one of the reasons.
Every deck has its strengts and weaknesses. If your playing a deck that is being hard countered by another deck, and that other deck is the most popular deck in the meta, then it might be best to either pick another deck or class to play, preferably one that counters the most popular deck, so you can grind wins.
Also i don't know how well choose druid is doing these days, it was a strong deck but it's been slowly declining. But secret highlander hunter is a strong deck. Maybe you were unlucky with your matchups/draw.
Altho switching classes might remove a lot of fun if your forced to switch from your favorite class to the one you hate to play most. Also changing your deck to counter the most popular one might mean you have to play archetypes you also dislike. (For example you might be a control player, but you have to force yourself to play aggro decks to win) It might be a good idea to ask your friends what deck they reached legend with, maybe they can share their decks with you
Sorry for this big comment, i hope it might help you at least a tiny bit!
I don't know if you want my advice, I made it to rank 7 once :D . With great risk of being attacked by the confirmation bias trolls, I would say to come back tomorrow, play 3-4 games and then quit for the day. rng.zues is punishing you, but he has no long term memory.
Or just run murloc agro i guess is what most people do.
"You can't just assign random prices to junk you find in a storage locker."
The best ways to improve differ from person to person - Some people need a coach to tell them what they're doing wrong, some just need to play a ton and for others it's enough to watch streams/guides or even just reading about the game.
What server are you on? If you want I can add you and I can spectate some of your games or something like that. (I'm a bit rusty since I just started playing again after a break, but I have been legend a bunch of times and been top 10 a couple times too)
Thanks for the offer, but I think I might be too unreliable to set something up. The thing is I only play at work when there's literally nothing to do, as I have no proper computer at home and I refuse to play on mobile, so my hearthstone time is sporadic, and I have to quit the moment a job appears.
I know this is a longer-standing issue, but if you've already played 3+ new decks in this week (and by the sound of it, not just out of experimentation, but tried to play them competitively), I'd say you're switching decks way too often.
From my experience, if I build/refine a deck myself (which means I know why each card is in there), it takes the whole season to get to a comfortable place (know how to mulligan and react to other meta decks). I don't play much though (~2-3 games per day), so you could translate this into ~100 games. However, it is a 100 spaced out games, which I would argue is better than just chaining them in a day or two, as it gives you time to think about them and change a card or two every few games (don't change too much and too often, same as with decks).
If I play something I picked up from someone else, it will still take time to get used to the deck (again, dozens of games), and it is very recommended to read about card choices or at least watch the designer or a pro play the deck on high level (someone who will not just play, but also describe his thought process while playing).
In short, I'd say pick a deck, one deck, and run it the whole season.
If you're running into a certain problem repeatedly (e.g. dying to aggro, or a combo, or a deck), tech in cards against that until it is no longer a problem.
Also, accept that each deck will have a crappy win rate vs some decks, so if the meta is really full of your nemesis decks, it is time for something else.
yeah, you're right. I normally rotate between 5-6 different decks and play whatever I'm in the mood for. It's especially true at the start of an expansion where I'm probably rotating 10 different decks.
Ok, I think you pointed the issues out already:
You say, you don't spend much time thinking and just often play what feels right. If you want to get better, you should play rather slow and ask yourself questions while playing, like for example: what are you hoping to achieve with a certain play? What would be the best answer your opponent could have for that play at this spot in the game? Or more general questions, like: Are you the offensive or defensive player in the matchup? It is important to know the role you have in certain spots, because f. e. a control deck can suddenly follow an aggressive gameplan during a game when the circumstances are right. You also should always ask yourself what you probably want to do the following turn and possibly the turn after.
And then of course, there are important basics, like: are you still making mistakes trading? Mulligan is a thing of its own, where even good players often tend to make a lot of mistakes.
Also, if you are only playing at work, where you can't be a 100% focused, because things always can come up that distract or even interrupt you, this is probably another reason why you don't improve.
But I mean, if you play HS just like that, why do you even consider taking a coach for money? Why is it that important to you, if you, and I don't mean that badly, play "casual".
It's tough to say without watching you play any games, but maybe you had a high winrate because the meta hadn't been figured out yet and now that it's somewhat solidified people know how to play against the decks you're using.
Are you using a deck tracker ? This tool really help you to play around certain cards you opponent have already played or not. It can also deliver useful data like how much you face other archetype, so you can adapt better to what you are playing against.
Also, you don't need a coach, you need to watch pro players on stream play the same deck than you, and learn what they are doing and WHY they are doing it. By doing so, you will improve a lot and see what mistakes you have been doing for a long time maybe.
Best advice I can give anyone regarding any game:
Play the game in an "active" way: think about your actions and reflect on them. Don't just play, actively try to improve.
Watch better players (preferably tournament players) play the game.
You need to figure out your mulligan.
It's usually the same 3 cards for all decks bit it can vary against control or aggro.
What 3 cards drawn at start will win you games most often?
Figure that out and hard mulligan for those cards.
And use a deck tracker. This is a must for rank 10 and up.
And play towards your win condition.
If your playing against control don't waste your cards and over flood the board.
Make the most out of your cards and just survive.
And against aggro, don't let anything survive on board, or save your clear for max value.
Other than that, just play smart and make good trades.
There are a lot of high roll decks right now. Either play hyper aggro, or lots of board clears.
Something like highlander mage, or quest shaman. Or spell hunter.
That's where I'm at.