Hey guys. I was thinking about how awful is to play against freeze mage and get frozen 6 times in a row... and sundenly, u, that was about to win... had just lost the game. When we think about hall of famed cards, most of the time we are talking about cards that are allways around, and taking space in decks every meta, and that is the case of Frost Nova. AoE freezing is a really strong mechanic, and we got NO COUNTER TO THIS, once u got frozen... u just cant do a thing. most of the time frost nova is most like "3 mana, take another turn"... and well... iceblock was like this and...
Share ur opinions please.
btw, i don't think blizzard needs to be hall of famed aswell, cause 6 mana is a fair cost to the effect, 3 is not.
sry by the bad english, not my mother language as u should have guessed.
I don't think it will get hall of famed.Blizzard has more chances for that since it's only 6 dmg freeze and deal 2 dmg.In case of Frost Nova just keep some board clear in your hand should you face mage.(Haven't played against or with Freeze mage yet so not 100% sure how strong he is)
Wrong, it is not a counter. The only mass silence card is not available in standard. Silence for a single minion will not fix the problem, because it is easy for mage to generate more freeze spells.
Doomsayer? Really? What complete asshat wants this card rotated? Cards like this must stay, hearthstone's lifeblood, they create interesting decisions for both players - the opposite of what frost nova does.
Can we talk about not proposing cards to be hofed? I really dont like the hall of fame mechanism. Just lowers the diversity. Nerf or buff bats are the way imo. Really? Mage lost frost nova because your opponent has good luck and u cant handle it?
Hey guys. I was thinking about how awful is to play against freeze mage and get frozen 6 times in a row... and sundenly, u, that was about to win... had just lost the game. When we think about hall of famed cards, most of the time we are talking about cards that are allways around, and taking space in decks every meta, and that is the case of Frost Nova. AoE freezing is a really strong mechanic, and we got NO COUNTER TO THIS, once u got frozen... u just cant do a thing. most of the time frost nova is most like "3 mana, take another turn"... and well... iceblock was like this and...
Share ur opinions please.
btw, i don't think blizzard needs to be hall of famed aswell, cause 6 mana is a fair cost to the effect, 3 is not.
sry by the bad english, not my mother language as u should have guessed.
Sorry but you're just wrong here. Frost nova hasn't seen play in every meta. It goes in and out. It's not even a staple of control mage. Much different than ice block, which was in practically every mage deck. If you want to get Frost Nova HOF that's your opinion, but you can't just rewrite history.
Also the only reason it is strong right now is because mage can make ridiculous boards with the mana left over.
So. What would you generously leave at mage's disposal?
Concede button and emotes?
You do realize mage does not have healing aside from ice barrier? It is comparable to druid's healing touch and how many druids play this in their deck?
You do realize mage does not have class specific taunts? Well, you can get some from conjcalled mountain giant into priest's grave digger. This whole line is, however, completely different problem to solve.
You do realize that mage has the most expensive secrets which do not offer best defensive mechanics?Paladin and Hunter secrets in general do slightly better job protecting their owners' faces.
You do realize that mage class identity dictates lack of healing possibilities but strong spells to control the board? That is why you face novas, blizzards, flamestrikes and such.
Imagine you can avoid frost novas with direct damage from hand using spells, weapons, charge minions or silences.
Imagine there are some classes (rogue, hunter, shaman, warrior) for which frost nova is a joke.
Imagine actually trying them out instead posting such nonsense here.
Hey guys.
I was thinking about how awful is to play against freeze mage and get frozen 6 times in a row... and sundenly, u, that was about to win... had just lost the game.
When we think about hall of famed cards, most of the time we are talking about cards that are allways around, and taking space in decks every meta, and that is the case of Frost Nova.
AoE freezing is a really strong mechanic, and we got NO COUNTER TO THIS, once u got frozen... u just cant do a thing. most of the time frost nova is most like "3 mana, take another turn"... and well... iceblock was like this and...
Share ur opinions please.
btw, i don't think blizzard needs to be hall of famed aswell, cause 6 mana is a fair cost to the effect, 3 is not.
sry by the bad english, not my mother language as u should have guessed.
silence your own Minions is a counter.
i mean, u know what i meant, many times the minion that u want to silence to go face is buffed, and u cant silence ur whole board.
I don't think it will get hall of famed.Blizzard has more chances for that since it's only 6 dmg freeze and deal 2 dmg.In case of Frost Nova just keep some board clear in your hand should you face mage.(Haven't played against or with Freeze mage yet so not 100% sure how strong he is)
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There are other cards higher on the list of being Hall of Famed than Frost Nova
Leeroy Jenkins , Doomsayer , Acolyte of Pain Mountain Giant
Wrong, it is not a counter. The only mass silence card is not available in standard. Silence for a single minion will not fix the problem, because it is easy for mage to generate more freeze spells.
No.
The answer to all your doubts will always be
Doomsayer? Really? What complete asshat wants this card rotated? Cards like this must stay, hearthstone's lifeblood, they create interesting decisions for both players - the opposite of what frost nova does.
Can we talk about not proposing cards to be hofed? I really dont like the hall of fame mechanism. Just lowers the diversity. Nerf or buff bats are the way imo. Really? Mage lost frost nova because your opponent has good luck and u cant handle it?
aggro players want it rotated :P
is not just aggro who struggles to deal with nova
Or play "At the End of round" Minions!
My Ysera got frozen 3 rounds, it gave me some counters and I won :P
Sorry but you're just wrong here. Frost nova hasn't seen play in every meta. It goes in and out. It's not even a staple of control mage. Much different than ice block, which was in practically every mage deck. If you want to get Frost Nova HOF that's your opinion, but you can't just rewrite history.
Also the only reason it is strong right now is because mage can make ridiculous boards with the mana left over.
So. What would you generously leave at mage's disposal?
Concede button and emotes?
You do realize mage does not have healing aside from ice barrier? It is comparable to druid's healing touch and how many druids play this in their deck?
You do realize mage does not have class specific taunts? Well, you can get some from conjcalled mountain giant into priest's grave digger. This whole line is, however, completely different problem to solve.
You do realize that mage has the most expensive secrets which do not offer best defensive mechanics?Paladin and Hunter secrets in general do slightly better job protecting their owners' faces.
You do realize that mage class identity dictates lack of healing possibilities but strong spells to control the board? That is why you face novas, blizzards, flamestrikes and such.
Imagine you can avoid frost novas with direct damage from hand using spells, weapons, charge minions or silences.
Imagine there are some classes (rogue, hunter, shaman, warrior) for which frost nova is a joke.
Imagine actually trying them out instead posting such nonsense here.
can we talk about it? yes
Should it be HoFed? No
leeroy is the only card in the classic set that needs a nerf/hof
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No definitely not