Since RoS came and the year of the Mammoth went to wild, saying goodbey and leaving the standar mode with all DKs, a lot of people complained about the 3 remaining hero cards, Dr. Boom, Mad Genius , Hagatha the Witch, and Zul'jin , making more emphasize in the first one. Since Control warrior an bomb warrior became really annoy to play against, and to the point that almost every warrior put dr bum, just because is really good, like DKs back in the year of the mammoth and raven.
I know a good nerf could help, but at the same time i think it would just kill the card, (no, i don't care how much you hate dr boom, and how dead you would love to see it), In my opinion the card isn't that broken, hero powers are random, and depends on what mechs you discovers to use the rush aura, but, i understand why people is unhappy with this. Obviously this card ended being strong, if just 3 classes kept hero cards, and this one resulted to be the stronger one. Now we would calling for a nerf to Haggatha and shaman, if dr boon was a bit worse, and control shaman were played instead, and why i said also zul'jin at the star, of the 3 cards is the most strong when you play it (if you managed to play a lot of spells and you arelucky with the order and targets, you basically won the game). I personaly think blizzard musted to see this comming far ago. Or you make the game equal to all classes and make 9 heroes in a year, one for each class, or don't even think to print one.
Since the make a surprise rotation in the middle of a standar cycle that took away Mind Blast and Vanish , i've been wondering if something like that could be posible for this 3 cards, and forget about them in standar until the developers find desings that are less toxic for the game, like Lord Jaraxxus , yes, all 3, if one left the other 2 should go to, or we just would restart the same problem again but this time with haggatha, and then zul'jin.
What would you do?. If i see enough participation in this poll i'll try to share it maybe more people could answer it to see how the comunity feels.
For me or all classes have hero cards or no one should have.
There is no tech or answer for this kind of card and classes without them, like priest, can't win the value game vs classes having this type of card, it is just a unfair advantage.
I think the answer to this question will be answered depending on how the meta settles next expansion. If quest decks are powerful enough to compete with/push out DK's then I don't see any reason for them to rotate. However, if Dr.Boom is still oppressive (which I believe he will be), he should be rotated.
Where is the option to keep all three in Standard and unnerfed?
I would be lying if i said that i didn't think to add it, but in this case, i guess keep the cards it's just the wrong option in the long run for the year of the dragon (and then for the game), the 3 cards probably will overshadow the other options, and just broken stuff would be the answer to them, and another year of the mammoth is thing blizzard should avoid
As someone previously in this thread stated, all of the classes should have them or none should; the value of the heroes can clearly be shown as the three classes that have heroes are powerful in the meta. Also, I believe that they will introduce hero cards for all of the classes in the next expansion.
Is there any reason they can’t print a 4/5 for 7 mana that reverts a hero back to you original hero, and change the card text on Boom to “while your are dr boom mechs have rush”. I know it doesn’t really nerf zuljin much cause most of his power is front loaded. It would help with the value of the other hero’s and future hero’s assuming they design them less front loaded.
Where is the option to keep all three in Standard and unnerfed?
I would be lying if i said that i didn't think to add it, but in this case, i guess keep the cards it's just the wrong option in the long run for the year of the dragon (and then for the game), the 3 cards probably will overshadow the other options, and just broken stuff would be the answer to them, and another year of the mammoth is thing blizzard should avoid
But... that's bad polling. I know it's an internet forum about a card game people play on the toilet, so it doesn't actually matter, but you're still doing it wrong...
Is there any reason they can’t print a 4/5 for 7 mana that reverts a hero back to you original hero, and change the card text on Boom to “while your are dr boom mechs have rush”. I know it doesn’t really nerf zuljin much cause most of his power is front loaded. It would help with the value of the other hero’s and future hero’s assuming they design them less front loaded.
that is another direction that isn't good, a card with a forced desing is just a dead slot. But i get what you are trying to say. Blizzard make cards like that in the past with Skulking Geist for jade druid, which at least ended seeing play from time to time as tech for other 1 mana spells
Where is the option to keep all three in Standard and unnerfed?
I would be lying if i said that i didn't think to add it, but in this case, i guess keep the cards it's just the wrong option in the long run for the year of the dragon (and then for the game), the 3 cards probably will overshadow the other options, and just broken stuff would be the answer to them, and another year of the mammoth is thing blizzard should avoid
But... that's bad polling. I know it's an internet forum about a card game people play on the toilet, so it doesn't actually matter, but you're still doing it wrong...
ey that has nothing to do with nothing, but ok, if you say it, But in this particular case i don0t agree, i know people wat options, but again, whether people like it or not, keep the cards or keep them without changes is a bad idea, but, i wouldn't be the first time i get criticized for that.
Because is not the point here, I already said it, whether people like or not, keep hero cards like untouched is a mistake. For that reason I didn't add the option, The poll is to ask what would you change, keep the card wont change anything
There is an option missing. Not one that I would pick, but this poll is rigged. Some people’s opinions may be that the game is better off with the three hero cards left alone, and they must be free to express that opinion or the poll is broken. It is not for anyone to decide that an opinion is wrong. I firmly believe a change will do the game good but people are and should be free to disagree with that. Add “Leave the hero cards as they are” option to the poll.
For me or all classes have hero cards or no one should have.
There is no tech or answer for this kind of card and classes without them, like priest, can't win the value game vs classes having this type of card, it is just a unfair advantage.
All 3 should go for Wild sooner.
i totally agree with this comment either all classes get hero's or nothing for the classes, it doesnt make sense why they make hero's for only 3 classes in the mean time even if they are going to be doing heros for the other classes coming the time inbetween makes it a unfair advantage.
Where is the option to keep all three in Standard and unnerfed?
I would be lying if i said that i didn't think to add it, but in this case, i guess keep the cards it's just the wrong option in the long run for the year of the dragon (and then for the game), the 3 cards probably will overshadow the other options, and just broken stuff would be the answer to them, and another year of the mammoth is thing blizzard should avoid
So because - in your opinion- something is a mistake, we all don't get the option to pick the thing we actual think?
I believe you're seeking for confirmation more than you're actually seeking for our opinions.
Where is the option to keep all three in Standard and unnerfed?
I would be lying if i said that i didn't think to add it, but in this case, i guess keep the cards it's just the wrong option in the long run for the year of the dragon (and then for the game), the 3 cards probably will overshadow the other options, and just broken stuff would be the answer to them, and another year of the mammoth is thing blizzard should avoid
So because - in your opinion- something is a mistake, we all don't get the option to pick the thing we actual think?
I believe you're seeking for confirmation more than you're actually seeking for our opinions.
Enough, i'll add an explanation to the thread, sorry guys, but i already said it Like it or not, don't like it?, critizace it all that you want, but if you vote is because you know its a bad idea not to make a change, i'm not asking if you want a change or not, i'm asking what change would you do, if your answer is keep everything like it is rigrh now, that's is not a change, so, is not at option, got it?, no? then go other thread to yell
Since RoS came and the year of the Mammoth went to wild, saying goodbey and leaving the standar mode with all DKs, a lot of people complained about the 3 remaining hero cards, Dr. Boom, Mad Genius , Hagatha the Witch, and Zul'jin , making more emphasize in the first one. Since Control warrior an bomb warrior became really annoy to play against, and to the point that almost every warrior put dr bum, just because is really good, like DKs back in the year of the mammoth and raven.
I know a good nerf could help, but at the same time i think it would just kill the card, (no, i don't care how much you hate dr boom, and how dead you would love to see it), In my opinion the card isn't that broken, hero powers are random, and depends on what mechs you discovers to use the rush aura, but, i understand why people is unhappy with this. Obviously this card ended being strong, if just 3 classes kept hero cards, and this one resulted to be the stronger one. Now we would calling for a nerf to Haggatha and shaman, if dr boon was a bit worse, and control shaman were played instead, and why i said also zul'jin at the star, of the 3 cards is the most strong when you play it (if you managed to play a lot of spells and you arelucky with the order and targets, you basically won the game). I personaly think blizzard musted to see this comming far ago. Or you make the game equal to all classes and make 9 heroes in a year, one for each class, or don't even think to print one.
Since the make a surprise rotation in the middle of a standar cycle that took away Mind Blast and Vanish , i've been wondering if something like that could be posible for this 3 cards, and forget about them in standar until the developers find desings that are less toxic for the game, like Lord Jaraxxus , yes, all 3, if one left the other 2 should go to, or we just would restart the same problem again but this time with haggatha, and then zul'jin.
What would you do?. If i see enough participation in this poll i'll try to share it maybe more people could answer it to see how the comunity feels.
For me or all classes have hero cards or no one should have.
There is no tech or answer for this kind of card and classes without them, like priest, can't win the value game vs classes having this type of card, it is just a unfair advantage.
All 3 should go for Wild sooner.
Where is the option to keep all three in Standard and unnerfed?
I think the answer to this question will be answered depending on how the meta settles next expansion. If quest decks are powerful enough to compete with/push out DK's then I don't see any reason for them to rotate. However, if Dr.Boom is still oppressive (which I believe he will be), he should be rotated.
I would be lying if i said that i didn't think to add it, but in this case, i guess keep the cards it's just the wrong option in the long run for the year of the dragon (and then for the game), the 3 cards probably will overshadow the other options, and just broken stuff would be the answer to them, and another year of the mammoth is thing blizzard should avoid
As someone previously in this thread stated, all of the classes should have them or none should; the value of the heroes can clearly be shown as the three classes that have heroes are powerful in the meta. Also, I believe that they will introduce hero cards for all of the classes in the next expansion.
Is there any reason they can’t print a 4/5 for 7 mana that reverts a hero back to you original hero, and change the card text on Boom to “while your are dr boom mechs have rush”. I know it doesn’t really nerf zuljin much cause most of his power is front loaded. It would help with the value of the other hero’s and future hero’s assuming they design them less front loaded.
But... that's bad polling. I know it's an internet forum about a card game people play on the toilet, so it doesn't actually matter, but you're still doing it wrong...
that is another direction that isn't good, a card with a forced desing is just a dead slot. But i get what you are trying to say. Blizzard make cards like that in the past with Skulking Geist for jade druid, which at least ended seeing play from time to time as tech for other 1 mana spells
ey that has nothing to do with nothing, but ok, if you say it, But in this particular case i don0t agree, i know people wat options, but again, whether people like it or not, keep the cards or keep them without changes is a bad idea, but, i wouldn't be the first time i get criticized for that.
They should give each class a Hero Card. Or none.
Why there is no option to leave all as it is?
Because is not the point here, I already said it, whether people like or not, keep hero cards like untouched is a mistake. For that reason I didn't add the option, The poll is to ask what would you change, keep the card wont change anything
I don't think they need a nerf and rotation is just one expansion away.
There is an option missing. Not one that I would pick, but this poll is rigged. Some people’s opinions may be that the game is better off with the three hero cards left alone, and they must be free to express that opinion or the poll is broken. It is not for anyone to decide that an opinion is wrong. I firmly believe a change will do the game good but people are and should be free to disagree with that. Add “Leave the hero cards as they are” option to the poll.
Yeah, it's a bit as if you posted an idea and polled the following:
"What do you think about my opinion?" :
- good
- very good
- outstanding
I know this is quite polemic, but you'll get the idea. If you'd like an honest discussion, you should be open to all opinions.
i totally agree with this comment either all classes get hero's or nothing for the classes, it doesnt make sense why they make hero's for only 3 classes in the mean time even if they are going to be doing heros for the other classes coming the time inbetween makes it a unfair advantage.
So because - in your opinion- something is a mistake, we all don't get the option to pick the thing we actual think?
I believe you're seeking for confirmation more than you're actually seeking for our opinions.
Enough, i'll add an explanation to the thread, sorry guys, but i already said it Like it or not, don't like it?, critizace it all that you want, but if you vote is because you know its a bad idea not to make a change, i'm not asking if you want a change or not, i'm asking what change would you do, if your answer is keep everything like it is rigrh now, that's is not a change, so, is not at option, got it?, no? then go other thread to yell
Adjusted the poll to be more honest. You cannot make a thread like this asking for opinions and then exclude a major option.
Now let's concentrate the discussion on the actual topic instead of the poll questions.
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