You're salty because a single archetype that currently represents less than 8% of the meta threatens to counter an archetype that isn't even out yet?
And then, on the other hand, people complain about the lack of counterplay. There's always something. Some matchups are extremely unfavourable, that's the nature of the game. As long as those type of matchups isn't overly prevalent, that's fine. That was the polarity issue that was big during the K&C, but since the rotation of DKs and quests and Baku/Genn, that hasn't been too much of an issue outside the typical tactical wheel of Control > Aggro > Combo > Control. Those highlander decks are control and bomb warrior is psuedo-combo-control hybrid (by nature of having two win conditions: attrition through value or endgame bombing. The second win condition means their deck has less value and attrition than the pure control variant).
You're salty because a single archetype that currently represents less than 8% of the meta threatens to counter an archetype that isn't even out yet?
And then, on the other hand, people complain about the lack of counterplay. There's always something. Some matchups are extremely unfavourable, that's the nature of the game. As long as those type of matchups isn't overly prevalent, that's fine. That was the polarity issue that was big during the K&C, but since the rotation of DKs and quests and Baku/Genn, that hasn't been too much of an issue outside the typical tactical wheel of Control > Aggro > Combo > Control. Those highlander decks are control and bomb warrior is psuedo-combo-control hybrid (by nature of having two win conditions: attrition through value or endgame bombing. The second win condition means their deck has less value and attrition than the pure control variant).
No, I'm not salty at how stupid the deck is. I'm not buying an expansion where all the new class legendary minions get countered by one stupid ass deck, which makes it a bit more stupid and keeps it some predominately played.
I'll never understand why a thread like this ever makes it to page 2.
Not because it should be locked or anything, but why do you repliers entertain such an obviously false premise?
Bomb warrior is not the most prevalent or most dominant deck. It's not even the most dominant warrior deck (not sure about prevalent).
WTF are we talking about here?
If you want to make a post putting forth the argument that another deck should not be able to shut off the Highlander condition after the Highlander deck has made such huge sacrifices to reach it in the first place, I might be with you.
Instead we get the same "Blizz4rd B4d" garbage based on objectively false premises.
Remember kids, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but no two opinions are created equal.
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Why the fuck would I buy an expansion to get legendary cards that are completely useless against the most dominant & stupid fucking deck to play against, bomb warrior. I can't believe there is a development team that's worse at planning than the Bioware group that worked on Anthem.
No need to nerf Bomb Warrior because Murloc Shaman will dominate the meta next expansion. So yeah, you can safely play your highlander legendaries and trigger their battlecries, but that's pretty much it. Don't expect any wins with a non-murloc shaman deck.
bomb warrior is only 7% of meta. Is it rly problem?
If he wouldn't get great cards in this expansion it will become weaker
And highlander decks wouldn't be a thing in next expansion, we need to wait for 1 or 2 more expansions to get more "no duplicates" cards to make it viable and competitive.
and nobody knows what will be with bomb warrior 6 months later, Its just too early to discuss
Bomb warrior not so hard to beat. Depends on what deck you are playing. Warrior is strong against some decks and weak against others. I'm thinking people who complain about Warrior play Rogue and only rogue and want to win 100% of them time but don't so they come here and whine whine whine like little cry-baby try-hards.
I don't think some people understand how meta works.If right now bomb warrior is a good deck(which is fine) then should those singleton decks have any power bomb warrior will rise and counter them fully.And the thing is this isn't any soft counter that gives you an edge on your opponent,it completely destroys his gameplan.
cant change hero power? can play reno to deal 10 board dmg? All other utilities are working, its ok that some decks have good counters.
But we are talking about nothing, now there many broken cards in game like conjurer call, dr boom, zuljin, haggatha etc and so mony cards with extreme power level, so there is no reason to talk and think about making no duplicates deck in standart. Old reno, kazakus, raza was a thing but new no duplicates cards isnt, except druid with some crazy combos, but it will be deck full of draw, so bombs wouldn't be a problem
If Highlander decks are getting hard countered by Bomb Warrior then they are already too weak to see play anyway. When Raza Priest was top tier in both Wild and Standard, people tried to counter it with Weasel Priest but Raza Priest still had 50%+ wr against it.
If Highlander decks are getting hard countered by Bomb Warrior then they are already too weak to see play anyway. When Raza Priest was top tier in both Wild and Standard, people tried to counter it with Weasel Priest but Raza Priest still had 50%+ wr against it.
The difference there might be the fact that you had 2 Weasels in your deck to draw, play, and have die to shuffle into your opponent’s deck. For Bomb Warrior you have 4-6 cards in your deck that shuffle bombs when played, or when you attack. So it’ll be much easier to negate the “no duplicates” effect.
Not too mention the Priest deck’s main way to win didn’t require Raza’s effect, it just helped to win quicker when combined with the DK power. So I would agree, these new highlander decks will be too weak if they are built to win only off their effect, rather than the effect being a tool to aide you in winning.
I don’t agree with the OP on Bomb Warrior needing a nerf, however, Iksar was on the latest Omni Stone episode and they asked about this very issue. They have already considered making a change like to not count things shuffled in by your opponent, but would prefer to not do that as things like Weasels, Candles, Ambushers, etc have always been a way to counter these types of effects. They are waiting to see how it goes before they take hard action in regards to the bombs and no duplicates effects.
bomb warrior is so lowskill and keeps me from trying many fun decks that are not aggro.
seriously the idea is alright but the way they implemented it sucks.
I really want to built me one myself just to see how it plays..
Just a salty OP. Nothing interesting to look at.
Always expect the unexpectable!
Maybe there will be a card that kills all duplicates in your deck?
You're salty because a single archetype that currently represents less than 8% of the meta threatens to counter an archetype that isn't even out yet?
And then, on the other hand, people complain about the lack of counterplay. There's always something. Some matchups are extremely unfavourable, that's the nature of the game. As long as those type of matchups isn't overly prevalent, that's fine. That was the polarity issue that was big during the K&C, but since the rotation of DKs and quests and Baku/Genn, that hasn't been too much of an issue outside the typical tactical wheel of Control > Aggro > Combo > Control. Those highlander decks are control and bomb warrior is psuedo-combo-control hybrid (by nature of having two win conditions: attrition through value or endgame bombing. The second win condition means their deck has less value and attrition than the pure control variant).
No, I'm not salty at how stupid the deck is. I'm not buying an expansion where all the new class legendary minions get countered by one stupid ass deck, which makes it a bit more stupid and keeps it some predominately played.
I'll never understand why a thread like this ever makes it to page 2.
Not because it should be locked or anything, but why do you repliers entertain such an obviously false premise?
Bomb warrior is not the most prevalent or most dominant deck. It's not even the most dominant warrior deck (not sure about prevalent).
WTF are we talking about here?
If you want to make a post putting forth the argument that another deck should not be able to shut off the Highlander condition after the Highlander deck has made such huge sacrifices to reach it in the first place, I might be with you.
Instead we get the same "Blizz4rd B4d" garbage based on objectively false premises.
Remember kids, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but no two opinions are created equal.
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
No need to nerf Bomb Warrior because Murloc Shaman will dominate the meta next expansion. So yeah, you can safely play your highlander legendaries and trigger their battlecries, but that's pretty much it. Don't expect any wins with a non-murloc shaman deck.
bomb warrior is only 7% of meta. Is it rly problem?
If he wouldn't get great cards in this expansion it will become weaker
And highlander decks wouldn't be a thing in next expansion, we need to wait for 1 or 2 more expansions to get more "no duplicates" cards to make it viable and competitive.
and nobody knows what will be with bomb warrior 6 months later, Its just too early to discuss
play no duplicate mage to use 10 dmg battlecry instead spaming full board of giants on turn 6?
New neutral legendary - destroy all duplicates in ur deck
Bomb warrior not so hard to beat. Depends on what deck you are playing. Warrior is strong against some decks and weak against others.
I'm thinking people who complain about Warrior play Rogue and only rogue and want to win 100% of them time but don't so they come here and whine whine whine like little cry-baby try-hards.
I don't think some people understand how meta works.If right now bomb warrior is a good deck(which is fine) then should those singleton decks have any power bomb warrior will rise and counter them fully.And the thing is this isn't any soft counter that gives you an edge on your opponent,it completely destroys his gameplan.
cant change hero power? can play reno to deal 10 board dmg? All other utilities are working, its ok that some decks have good counters.
But we are talking about nothing, now there many broken cards in game like conjurer call, dr boom, zuljin, haggatha etc and so mony cards with extreme power level, so there is no reason to talk and think about making no duplicates deck in standart. Old reno, kazakus, raza was a thing but new no duplicates cards isnt, except druid with some crazy combos, but it will be deck full of draw, so bombs wouldn't be a problem
Lots of people like Bomb Warrior...
why not? Bomb should make 4 dmg rather than 5 . meca have rush,magnetic....too much
*22,96% of the next expansion is revealed*
OP: wHy iS ThErE nO cOuNtEr tO dEcK X... iTs sO bRoKeN bEcAuSe i oNlY pLaY ShIt dEcKs
Why didn't this dude get banned yet?
job's done.
If Highlander decks are getting hard countered by Bomb Warrior then they are already too weak to see play anyway. When Raza Priest was top tier in both Wild and Standard, people tried to counter it with Weasel Priest but Raza Priest still had 50%+ wr against it.
Card battlecry destroy up to 5 duplicate cards in your deck.
The difference there might be the fact that you had 2 Weasels in your deck to draw, play, and have die to shuffle into your opponent’s deck. For Bomb Warrior you have 4-6 cards in your deck that shuffle bombs when played, or when you attack. So it’ll be much easier to negate the “no duplicates” effect.
Not too mention the Priest deck’s main way to win didn’t require Raza’s effect, it just helped to win quicker when combined with the DK power. So I would agree, these new highlander decks will be too weak if they are built to win only off their effect, rather than the effect being a tool to aide you in winning.
I don’t agree with the OP on Bomb Warrior needing a nerf, however, Iksar was on the latest Omni Stone episode and they asked about this very issue. They have already considered making a change like to not count things shuffled in by your opponent, but would prefer to not do that as things like Weasels, Candles, Ambushers, etc have always been a way to counter these types of effects. They are waiting to see how it goes before they take hard action in regards to the bombs and no duplicates effects.