I do so love it when people get lost on here and forget to take the turn to the salt thread. Great source of entertainment, please continue to put out such fun content!
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Rage quitting: the best way to ensure your opponent knows they beat a giant baby.
The gameplay and cards may change at any time. Get used to it. If Blizzard decides to make changes to any game they own, they literally owe you nothing.
They could completely change one of your favorite cards and give you nothing in return. This is what you signed up for when you started playing this game.
Think of all of the free stuff they give to you. Free Legendaries, free packs, new expansions, flavor, solo content. You can download this game and pay nothing and have lots of good cards.
They give this to you for nothing, and this is how you repay them. Stab them right in the back and demand dust.
Please keep the direct insults out of your replies, guys. By all means make your opinions and disagree to your heart's content, but flaming will be removed. Cheers!
Blizzard isn't dying in the traditional sense, it's not as prestigious as it was in the past after all the shit with WoW, the mishandling of Overwatch, diablo immortal etc but it's still profitable.
I think OP is saying blizzard's soul is dying but I think that is wrong, Blizzards soul died off years ago
"Edgy quote about being too smart and suffering for it" - Literally who - 1890 Yes I am better than you, my signature implies it. Annoying Random colours.
Dude calm down. They bear no effect on the gameplay, don't matter at all, the art is still freely available elsewhere and they've already explained why they made the changes.
Some answers in this thread remind me of a story, or however one can call it.
There is an old fence on the road that warns people not to go further.
You can see no reason for the fence to be there, at least, not that you can see, so you have to decide whether to take down the fence and keep going, or just let it stay put.
There's people that answer they would throw it down because if they don't see it's purpose, they don't see a reason not to throw it down.
Then there are the people that anwer that they would let it stay put, because even though they don't see the reason, it is unlikely that the fence is there for no reason even if they don't see it. So they decide to be on the safe side and not do something that might have consequences they don't know or predict.
I fall on the second group, I oppose change for the sake of change, I oppose change if there is no good justification for change, justification that also shows me the change wont make things worse.
Reality is many constructs, ideas, systems around us exist for far, far longer than any of use has been living, we shouldn't just want to destroy what has been built before us without knowing the consequences of such destruction, or why they were there in the first place.
Just an observation, hopefully this gets some people thinking.
Edit: There's also the old saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
It is broken. It needed a change. Not for you, not for me but Chinese censorship made it necessary and they are one of the biggest market
Please keep the direct insults out of your replies, guys. By all means make your opinions and disagree to your heart's content, but flaming will be removed. Cheers!
Sorry I missed this clusterfuck of a post until now, simply responding to OP.
You're an AWESOME PERSON, and we are all ENLIGHTENED for having read your words. (Edits in caps after being warned for direct insults).
Not to be overly flippant, but your post comes down to "they care about something; I care about something else. They should care about what I care about"
It's a complete apples to oranges comparison, there is no hypocrisy involved. Given the monetization practices of some companies, Blizzard is STILL on the consumer side of the norm. That doesn't make the prices enjoyable to pay, but I could sit here and name games with more absurd models . . . starting with the entire EA catalog . . . until YOU got tired.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Typical forum fanboys making every excuse for b.s. decisions. Yes, card art is absolutely a reason people play this game. If the card art started out as cartoonishly ugly, or the characters were of cutesy stuffed animals, then this game would never have become nearly as popular, regardless of "the gameplay mechanics being exactly the same." The theme of a game is just as, if not more important than the gameplay itself. Blizzard changing the game from what people originally paid for, is absolutely a legit reason for people to be upset the direction the game has already gone, and will continue to go in if nobody speaks up. It is like if someone painted the color of your car or house to something childish and ugly, and then the fanboys brainlessly say, well your car and house still function the same as before, so we just can't comprehend why you don't just bend over and enjoy getting screwed like us fanboys do.
You seem bored of HS, just take a break, that's all I do when I feel burnt out, I just go and play other card games or other games in general and have some time away.
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ZhalZhak#2315 @ EU/NA
I joke a lot, if you take anything I say seriously, well, shame on you :p
I mean there are still cards like whirlwind from warrior that has blood why not call out that hypocrisy or aviana being basically the same as wind fury harpy?
Typical forum fanboys making every excuse for b.s. decisions. Yes, card art is absolutely a reason people play this game. If the card art started out as cartoonishly ugly, or the characters were of cutesy stuffed animals, then this game would never have become nearly as popular, regardless of "the gameplay mechanics being exactly the same." The theme of a game is just as, if not more important than the gameplay itself. Blizzard changing the game from what people originally paid for, is absolutely a legit reason for people to be upset the direction the game has already gone, and will continue to go in if nobody speaks up. It is like if someone painted the color of your car or house to something childish and ugly, and then the fanboys brainlessly say, well your car and house still function the same as before, so we just can't comprehend why you don't just bend over and enjoy getting screwed like us fanboys do.
Are you telling me that if Felstalker was originally included rather than Soccubus you would never played ( or paid) for Hearthstone?
If those new arts were there from the beginning, really people wouldn't download the game? C'mon dont be absurd
Typical forum fanboys making every excuse for b.s. decisions. Yes, card art is absolutely a reason people play this game. If the card art started out as cartoonishly ugly, or the characters were of cutesy stuffed animals, then this game would never have become nearly as popular, regardless of "the gameplay mechanics being exactly the same." The theme of a game is just as, if not more important than the gameplay itself. Blizzard changing the game from what people originally paid for, is absolutely a legit reason for people to be upset the direction the game has already gone, and will continue to go in if nobody speaks up. It is like if someone painted the color of your car or house to something childish and ugly, and then the fanboys brainlessly say, well your car and house still function the same as before, so we just can't comprehend why you don't just bend over and enjoy getting screwed like us fanboys do.
FWIW - with a few exceptions, here and there, HS began using all-original art during LoE. Prior to that, the game was regularly using pre-existing art assets whenever it could - some of the art design in the vanilla sets pre-dates the release of WoW. If you look at the art from LoE forward, there is a distressing lack of tits, ass and blood - the ladies have tits, but they didn't use them to get their jobs.
That's four years without any camel toe. The current spate of "outrage" would appear a little more genuine if the folks currently pretending that Chinese feminists are taking over the world had began bitching about the game's lack of titties a few years ago. Presumably, none of the little shits even noticed - because they don't honestly care. However, pretending to be upset is an RPG that lots of folks play on social media.
Apologies are hereby extended to all the legitimately offended gentleman that have been rage-posting since LoE, complaining that Elise Starseeker didn't flash us a bit of her little purple titties.
FWIW - with a few exceptions, here and there, HS began using all-original art during LoE. Prior to that, the game was regularly using pre-existing art assets whenever it could - some of the art design in the vanilla sets pre-dates the release of WoW. If you look at the art from LoE forward, there is a distressing lack of tits, ass and blood - the ladies have tits, but they didn't use them to get their jobs.
That's four years without any camel toe. The current spate of "outrage" would appear a little more genuine if the folks currently pretending that Chinese feminists are taking over the world had began bitching about the game's lack of titties a few years ago. Presumably, none of the little shits even noticed - because they don't honestly care. However, pretending to be upset is an RPG that lots of folks play on social media.
Apologies are hereby extended to all the legitimately offended gentleman that have been rage-posting since LoE, complaining that Elise Starseeker didn't flash us a bit of her little purple titties.
If you are serious about accusing Blizzard for scamming, changes to card art and flavour text should be the last of your worries! Remember they also do things like nerfing a common to make 3 legendaries almost unplayable and introducing the standard format; gaining the right to regularly remove a huge chunk of your collection from the most important competetive way to play the game...
About the standard part, it's more healthier for newcomers to play and introduced to 3-6 expansions, imagine playing a game where it has 10+ expansions 50$ for each.
I do so love it when people get lost on here and forget to take the turn to the salt thread. Great source of entertainment, please continue to put out such fun content!
Rage quitting: the best way to ensure your opponent knows they beat a giant baby.
i had a thread kind of similar to urs but every1 hated it xD
https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/235125-dust-refund-for-card-art-changes
The gameplay and cards may change at any time. Get used to it. If Blizzard decides to make changes to any game they own, they literally owe you nothing.
They could completely change one of your favorite cards and give you nothing in return. This is what you signed up for when you started playing this game.
Think of all of the free stuff they give to you. Free Legendaries, free packs, new expansions, flavor, solo content. You can download this game and pay nothing and have lots of good cards.
They give this to you for nothing, and this is how you repay them. Stab them right in the back and demand dust.
E tu Brutus, E tu.
Please keep the direct insults out of your replies, guys.
By all means make your opinions and disagree to your heart's content, but flaming will be removed.
Cheers!
I'm pretty sure this guy is intentionally trolling.
Blizzard isn't dying in the traditional sense, it's not as prestigious as it was in the past after all the shit with WoW, the mishandling of Overwatch, diablo immortal etc but it's still profitable.
I think OP is saying blizzard's soul is dying but I think that is wrong, Blizzards soul died off years ago
Dude calm down. They bear no effect on the gameplay, don't matter at all, the art is still freely available elsewhere and they've already explained why they made the changes.
Yo waddup fam
It is broken. It needed a change. Not for you, not for me but Chinese censorship made it necessary and they are one of the biggest market
Here's a tip; we don't own shit. We play a game that they own and control and have all rights to. We agree to this when we sign on.
I don't agree with the changes, but this isn't a scenario where the game owes us dust.
and that's why dear gamers, the game/stream services the big publishers are heavily pushing right now, is not a good thing.
the future of gaming is ominous.
If Murphy's Law was a videogame, it would be called Hearthstone.
true sorry
Sorry I missed this clusterfuck of a post until now, simply responding to OP.
You're an AWESOME PERSON, and we are all ENLIGHTENED for having read your words. (Edits in caps after being warned for direct insults).
Not to be overly flippant, but your post comes down to "they care about something; I care about something else. They should care about what I care about"
It's a complete apples to oranges comparison, there is no hypocrisy involved. Given the monetization practices of some companies, Blizzard is STILL on the consumer side of the norm. That doesn't make the prices enjoyable to pay, but I could sit here and name games with more absurd models . . . starting with the entire EA catalog . . . until YOU got tired.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Typical forum fanboys making every excuse for b.s. decisions. Yes, card art is absolutely a reason people play this game. If the card art started out as cartoonishly ugly, or the characters were of cutesy stuffed animals, then this game would never have become nearly as popular, regardless of "the gameplay mechanics being exactly the same." The theme of a game is just as, if not more important than the gameplay itself. Blizzard changing the game from what people originally paid for, is absolutely a legit reason for people to be upset the direction the game has already gone, and will continue to go in if nobody speaks up. It is like if someone painted the color of your car or house to something childish and ugly, and then the fanboys brainlessly say, well your car and house still function the same as before, so we just can't comprehend why you don't just bend over and enjoy getting screwed like us fanboys do.
You seem bored of HS, just take a break, that's all I do when I feel burnt out, I just go and play other card games or other games in general and have some time away.
ZhalZhak#2315 @ EU/NA
I joke a lot, if you take anything I say seriously, well, shame on you :p
I mean there are still cards like whirlwind from warrior that has blood why not call out that hypocrisy or aviana being basically the same as wind fury harpy?
Are you telling me that if Felstalker was originally included rather than Soccubus you would never played ( or paid) for Hearthstone?
If those new arts were there from the beginning, really people wouldn't download the game? C'mon dont be absurd
FWIW - with a few exceptions, here and there, HS began using all-original art during LoE. Prior to that, the game was regularly using pre-existing art assets whenever it could - some of the art design in the vanilla sets pre-dates the release of WoW. If you look at the art from LoE forward, there is a distressing lack of tits, ass and blood - the ladies have tits, but they didn't use them to get their jobs.
That's four years without any camel toe. The current spate of "outrage" would appear a little more genuine if the folks currently pretending that Chinese feminists are taking over the world had began bitching about the game's lack of titties a few years ago. Presumably, none of the little shits even noticed - because they don't honestly care. However, pretending to be upset is an RPG that lots of folks play on social media.
Apologies are hereby extended to all the legitimately offended gentleman that have been rage-posting since LoE, complaining that Elise Starseeker didn't flash us a bit of her little purple titties.
I wish I could give you more upvotes for this.
About the standard part, it's more healthier for newcomers to play and introduced to 3-6 expansions, imagine playing a game where it has 10+ expansions 50$ for each.
A service game is not the same thing as an item of personal property.