I just have a quick question regarding the current meta, I am currently climbing just fine using neiras rogue version to target mages and hunters with great success.
I just hit a concrete wall when facing warriors (control just doesn't die and bomb just blows me up even with zilliax and lifedrinkers), there is not much aggro/zoo but face overload shaman is also a problem.
So my question is what deck is steamrolling warrior currently?
If you wanna crush warrior you can play some mage deck, specially the greedier ones with tony, pocket galaxy etc. the freeze version actually beats warrior pretty easily.. but then again, it’s weaker against faster decks..
hey bro just a question I tried the deck but a few notes, what is the copy of lightning bolt for? Omega mind I guess is for emergency heals with Hagatha Scheme? and Finally what minion do you aim to bounce back?
I just have a quick question regarding the current meta, I am currently climbing just fine using neiras rogue version to target mages and hunters with great success.
I just hit a concrete wall when facing warriors (control just doesn't die and bomb just blows me up even with zilliax and lifedrinkers), there is not much aggro/zoo but face overload shaman is also a problem.
So my question is what deck is steamrolling warrior currently?
This may not be the be-all and end-all solution, but if you want to garner some ideas as to what sort of decks to try for besting Control Warrior), you can look at something like HSReplay: https://hsreplay.net/archetypes/2/control-warrior#tab=matchups (Look at different versions of Ctrl-Warrior if that one isn't the right one.)
This gives you an indication of how the deck performs overall against other decks around and you can look for the ones that it has particularly low win rates against for an idea of a deck to try.
Take it with a pinch of salt, of course - the usual "Your results may vary" always apply to this sort of thing, and it also is effected by the usual RnG and varying skill levels of the decks that you play. A more complicated deck may have a better winrate against Warrior, but require more thought about how to run the deck compared to more streamlined ones, etc etc.
In any case, if you're still having problems after trying some of this, feel free to let us know what areas you're struggling in - and what beats you (if a particular card / set of cards, etc) and we can find ways to combat it.
ightning bolt against early aggresion (2\3 Murlock for example), bouncer for BGH, omega mind (this card for late "reno" healing against hunters and bomb warriors), ooze or sometimes shudderwock
It's a widely known fact that climbing is easy regardless of the deck if you are just lucky enough, as this decides 90% of games on ladder. So don't worry about deck choice, just get rng.
It's a widely known fact that climbing is easy regardless of the deck if you are just lucky enough, as this decides 90% of games on ladder. So don't worry about deck choice, just get rng.
Salty boy strikes again with his constructive commentary about luck.
Every deck you try will have a counter deck that will steamroll you. That is a healthy meta where each deck has a couple of counter decks so you aren't winning 80% of games. If you switch decks you will come across the same pattern; doing great against some decks. 50/50 against other decks. Getting rolled over by some other decks. There isn't one deck, nor should there be, that will have a strong win rating against the entire meta.
You can ask for another deck to play but the pattern will still remain the same and your win rate will be the same. You will be back here bitching about the deck that rolls over you and what you should play instead. Play what you have the most fun playing.
Hey bro, used your deck this season successfully reaching rank 5 within 2 days with a steak from rank 7 to 5! I have to say I edited the list a bit and tuned it , gave you credit
Every deck you try will have a counter deck that will steamroll you. That is a healthy meta where each deck has a couple of counter decks so you aren't winning 80% of games. If you switch decks you will come across the same pattern; doing great against some decks. 50/50 against other decks. Getting rolled over by some other decks. There isn't one deck, nor should there be, that will have a strong win rating against the entire meta.
You can ask for another deck to play but the pattern will still remain the same and your win rate will be the same. You will be back here bitching about the deck that rolls over you and what you should play instead. Play what you have the most fun playing.
I agree on that the meta is very health (but boring and unhealthy across the e-sports scene). But I disagree that there are hard counter decks, but that is a good thing in my opinion.
Like many of my matches in control or even against mages who did Luna's Pocket Galaxy on turn 5, were decided by optimal plays and reading what the opponent is trying to achieve to reach his win condition.
And for the record I was not bitching, but having to go to turn 40+ to give control Warriors a taste of their own medicine by playing Archivist Elysiana's battlecry twice is not ''fun'' and but I do enjoy winning the match in the end as there are a lot of decisions to be made instead of mindlessly clearing aggro's board turn after turn.
Hello,
I just have a quick question regarding the current meta, I am currently climbing just fine using neiras rogue version to target mages and hunters with great success.
I just hit a concrete wall when facing warriors (control just doesn't die and bomb just blows me up even with zilliax and lifedrinkers), there is not much aggro/zoo but face overload shaman is also a problem.
So my question is what deck is steamrolling warrior currently?
If you wanna crush warrior you can play some mage deck, specially the greedier ones with tony, pocket galaxy etc. the freeze version actually beats warrior pretty easily.. but then again, it’s weaker against faster decks..
Yeah, a toast!
I've reach the legend with my Control shaman that can beat every aggro deck and also warriors (because the second Elysiana from Shudderwock)
https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1285007-legendary-pure-control-shaman
thanks will give it a try! who were your worst match ups?
Mage is the worst match up, but scheemes, BGH and hexes against giants can help you win
hey bro just a question I tried the deck but a few notes, what is the copy of lightning bolt for? Omega mind I guess is for emergency heals with Hagatha Scheme? and Finally what minion do you aim to bounce back?
This may not be the be-all and end-all solution, but if you want to garner some ideas as to what sort of decks to try for besting Control Warrior), you can look at something like HSReplay:
https://hsreplay.net/archetypes/2/control-warrior#tab=matchups
(Look at different versions of Ctrl-Warrior if that one isn't the right one.)
This gives you an indication of how the deck performs overall against other decks around and you can look for the ones that it has particularly low win rates against for an idea of a deck to try.
Take it with a pinch of salt, of course - the usual "Your results may vary" always apply to this sort of thing, and it also is effected by the usual RnG and varying skill levels of the decks that you play. A more complicated deck may have a better winrate against Warrior, but require more thought about how to run the deck compared to more streamlined ones, etc etc.
In any case, if you're still having problems after trying some of this, feel free to let us know what areas you're struggling in - and what beats you (if a particular card / set of cards, etc) and we can find ways to combat it.
ightning bolt against early aggresion (2\3 Murlock for example), bouncer for BGH, omega mind (this card for late "reno" healing against hunters and bomb warriors), ooze or sometimes shudderwock
It's a widely known fact that climbing is easy regardless of the deck if you are just lucky enough, as this decides 90% of games on ladder. So don't worry about deck choice, just get rng.
Salty boy strikes again with his constructive commentary about luck.
Every deck you try will have a counter deck that will steamroll you. That is a healthy meta where each deck has a couple of counter decks so you aren't winning 80% of games. If you switch decks you will come across the same pattern; doing great against some decks. 50/50 against other decks. Getting rolled over by some other decks. There isn't one deck, nor should there be, that will have a strong win rating against the entire meta.
You can ask for another deck to play but the pattern will still remain the same and your win rate will be the same. You will be back here bitching about the deck that rolls over you and what you should play instead.
Play what you have the most fun playing.
Hey bro, used your deck this season successfully reaching rank 5 within 2 days with a steak from rank 7 to 5! I have to say I edited the list a bit and tuned it , gave you credit
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1286740-control-shaman-easy-climb-to-rank-5-us
I agree on that the meta is very health (but boring and unhealthy across the e-sports scene). But I disagree that there are hard counter decks, but that is a good thing in my opinion.
Like many of my matches in control or even against mages who did Luna's Pocket Galaxy on turn 5, were decided by optimal plays and reading what the opponent is trying to achieve to reach his win condition.
And for the record I was not bitching, but having to go to turn 40+ to give control Warriors a taste of their own medicine by playing Archivist Elysiana's battlecry twice is not ''fun'' and but I do enjoy winning the match in the end as there are a lot of decisions to be made instead of mindlessly clearing aggro's board turn after turn.