If people want to pre-maturely say everyone is migrating, nothing can stop them. It will just be awkward as fuck when it doesn't work out and your new site essentially becomes ubiquitous and a private members club. Hearthpwn worked because of the large community, strip it away and there's no assurance there will be much left. Perhaps Hearthpwn will begin a significant decline because of this, but the alternative was no site. If you want to show solidarity for a person or a cause that's fine but I'm here for hearthstone and the people, long as they're intact the majority of people will not go anywhere; let's be honest, most of us are fucking lazy and won't want to make such a drastic change, especially so for the regulars who've dedicated years to the site.
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yeaah i think that its awesome that its stays its only the way how everything goes that i think hmm okay But yeaah i wil stay using heartpwn and Outofcards ofcourse i am really curios what the new staff is gonna do with this amazing site and i wish the new staff good luck but always remember that without flux (and his staff) there was no heartpwn as it is and i hope the new staff give him a hall of fame for that
I'm glad Hearthpwn is staying around - there is a lot of history and years of deck information only available on this site. I don't plan to leave this community unless the new owners break the site.
Hearthpwn is but a framework, a shell, a hosting site. Without the community, there is no Hearthpwn.
That said, I plan to break from Hearthpwn and go strictly to outofcards. Come join me!
Yes I am promoting outofcards as the better forum and place to discuss games. https://outof.cards/
Just in case you missed that, the site is Out of Cards, the url is https://outof.cards/, and you can click HERE to go right there.
no mods, no problem.
edit: link also in my signature.
To be honest I just can't stand the feel of Out of Cards. Hearthpwn feels like home to me. The colour pallete, site layout, forum post, it's all to familiar to me. I can't just let go of my favorite Hearthstone site and I'll hope for the best.
*Site will continue with new people* = more outrage
Sorry, I don't get this, even though the story of the Fluxflashor/Curse/Fandom relations, a potential site takeover and the launch of his Flux' own site is a very long and complicated one.
You can say whatever you want about lacking support from Curse and how the activity of this site has gone down for the last few years, but the truth is it is that these forums are a goldmine of hearthstone history with several heavily invested users, like myself.
I can see nothing negative about this site continuing, and I am more than willing to give the new staff a chance.
I mean if you want to ignore context and the way they treated people who actually put the work in to make the site what it is then yes, Hearthpwn staying up is an entirely positive result.
The reality is that the way it's been handled is shambolic and disrespectful to many, especially Flux. When he found out Curse was dropping Hearthpwn he tried to buy it but was told it wasn't for sale so he set about making a replacement site for the community to move to. Not only did they then turn around and sell to someone else after OOC was up and running but they even prematurely removed his admin status here for some minimal advertising of that site (before he knew Hearthpwn would stay open and the 2 sites would effectively be competing).
I'm sure some will say that's Flux's problem and not the userbase as a whole but realistically it's impossible to ignore the damage Curse's shite handling of all this will actually do to not just Hearthpwn but also OOC. Now the community will be split between the 2 sites (with the most experienced staff moving to OOC). Yes it's better than Hearthpwn closing but had they got their shit together they wouldn't have lost a chunk of the userbase and most the people who actually made the site what it is. If this site was deemed not commercially viable before how much better off will it be less a whole bunch of users and experienced moderators? OOC will of course have a significant uphill battle keeping up with a more established site - a site they pretty much made popular and were expecting to provide a replacement to rather than compete against.
It'd be great to see both sites prosper it really would (and I intend to visit both for the time being) but as of right now it seems just as likely they'll both be forced to fold within a year or two.
Hearthpwn is but a framework, a shell, a hosting site. Without the community, there is no Hearthpwn.
That said, I plan to break from Hearthpwn and go strictly to outofcards. Come join me!
Yes I am promoting outofcards as the better forum and place to discuss games. https://outof.cards/
Just in case you missed that, the site is Out of Cards, the url is https://outof.cards/, and you can click HERE to go right there.
no mods, no problem.
edit: link also in my signature.
To be honest I just can't stand the feel of Out of Cards. Hearthpwn feels like home to me. The colour pallete, site layout, forum post, it's all to familiar to me. I can't just let go of my favorite Hearthstone site and I'll hope for the best.
Hearthpwn was the best till now bcs of mods and community. All thw best of hearthpwn moved to the Out of cards. Kaladin, our savior moved there... so there is the place we should go. I mean, im going, but if you want to stay here, with people who wanted to shutdown this, goood luck and enjoy!
This kind of presumptuous shit is the reason most people will stay at Heathpwn; I see no reason to give up a functioning site for one in construction, when that happens then people will actually make a decision.
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This kind of presumptuous shit is the reason most people will stay at Heathpwn; I see no reason to give up a functioning site for one in construction, when that happens then people will actually make a decision.
So you prefer people who wanted to shutdown the site and community? Only reason they are keeping it up now, is because of rivalty and money. On the other hand, the fluxx and other staff made the hearthpwn what it is now. Im sure they will make out of cards even better.
I'd also highlight here a difference between corporate bean counters, who think with their wallets and the passionate gaming community members that administrate sites such as this. Although I am somewhat cynical about the new ownership, I'm not going to tarnish them so early on because of the questionable antics of Curse.
People usually dont bite bricks to stay alive. Ofcourse everyone is after some sweet sweet money. I'm not gonna judge anyone with their ambitions to earn more. But as a customer I request quality. If flux can make the better website, I'll leave. If curse can, I'll stay. Simple stuff. I'm not fully objective tho, as is no one. Curse does not have a "clean reputation" and flux is my boi. Hearthpwn has more stuff to prove.
If people want to pre-maturely say everyone is migrating, nothing can stop them. It will just be awkward as fuck when it doesn't work out and your new site essentially becomes ubiquitous and a private members club. Hearthpwn worked because of the large community, strip it away and there's no assurance there will be much left. Perhaps Hearthpwn will begin a significant decline because of this, but the alternative was no site. If you want to show solidarity for a person or a cause that's fine but I'm here for hearthstone and the people, long as they're intact the majority of people will not go anywhere; let's be honest, most of us are fucking lazy and won't want to make such a drastic change, especially so for the regulars who've dedicated years to the site.
"Drastic change" ah yes...registering to a new site, something you do tens of times a year...very drastic
If people want to pre-maturely say everyone is migrating, nothing can stop them. It will just be awkward as fuck when it doesn't work out and your new site essentially becomes ubiquitous and a private members club. Hearthpwn worked because of the large community, strip it away and there's no assurance there will be much left. Perhaps Hearthpwn will begin a significant decline because of this, but the alternative was no site. If you want to show solidarity for a person or a cause that's fine but I'm here for hearthstone and the people, long as they're intact the majority of people will not go anywhere; let's be honest, most of us are fucking lazy and won't want to make such a drastic change, especially so for the regulars who've dedicated years to the site.
"Drastic change" ah yes...registering to a new site, something you do tens of times a year...very drastic
Do whatever you want. But you're exaggerating.
Registering and staying with a site are two entirely different concepts. Anyone can make an account, only someone with dedication will frequent a site every day. I don't see the hyperbole in that but to each their own.
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sorry i miss the link to the new site. can you repeat it?
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curse fellow chaud was NOT a HS player :
https://www.hearthpwn.com/members/chaud/collection
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If people want to pre-maturely say everyone is migrating, nothing can stop them. It will just be awkward as fuck when it doesn't work out and your new site essentially becomes ubiquitous and a private members club. Hearthpwn worked because of the large community, strip it away and there's no assurance there will be much left. Perhaps Hearthpwn will begin a significant decline because of this, but the alternative was no site. If you want to show solidarity for a person or a cause that's fine but I'm here for hearthstone and the people, long as they're intact the majority of people will not go anywhere; let's be honest, most of us are fucking lazy and won't want to make such a drastic change, especially so for the regulars who've dedicated years to the site.
If you thought you knew what you think I know, then you'd know I knew you knew I know.
yeaah i think that its awesome that its stays its only the way how everything goes that i think hmm okay
But yeaah i wil stay using heartpwn and Outofcards ofcourse i am really curios what the new staff is gonna do with this amazing site
and i wish the new staff good luck but always remember that without flux (and his staff) there was no heartpwn as it is and i hope the new staff give him a hall of fame for that
I'm glad Hearthpwn is staying around - there is a lot of history and years of deck information only available on this site. I don't plan to leave this community unless the new owners break the site.
To be honest I just can't stand the feel of Out of Cards. Hearthpwn feels like home to me. The colour pallete, site layout, forum post, it's all to familiar to me. I can't just let go of my favorite Hearthstone site and I'll hope for the best.
Who cares. Calm yourself.
I mean if you want to ignore context and the way they treated people who actually put the work in to make the site what it is then yes, Hearthpwn staying up is an entirely positive result.
The reality is that the way it's been handled is shambolic and disrespectful to many, especially Flux. When he found out Curse was dropping Hearthpwn he tried to buy it but was told it wasn't for sale so he set about making a replacement site for the community to move to. Not only did they then turn around and sell to someone else after OOC was up and running but they even prematurely removed his admin status here for some minimal advertising of that site (before he knew Hearthpwn would stay open and the 2 sites would effectively be competing).
I'm sure some will say that's Flux's problem and not the userbase as a whole but realistically it's impossible to ignore the damage Curse's shite handling of all this will actually do to not just Hearthpwn but also OOC. Now the community will be split between the 2 sites (with the most experienced staff moving to OOC). Yes it's better than Hearthpwn closing but had they got their shit together they wouldn't have lost a chunk of the userbase and most the people who actually made the site what it is. If this site was deemed not commercially viable before how much better off will it be less a whole bunch of users and experienced moderators? OOC will of course have a significant uphill battle keeping up with a more established site - a site they pretty much made popular and were expecting to provide a replacement to rather than compete against.
It'd be great to see both sites prosper it really would (and I intend to visit both for the time being) but as of right now it seems just as likely they'll both be forced to fold within a year or two.
Out of cards is the new home!
Hearthpwn was the best till now bcs of mods and community. All thw best of hearthpwn moved to the Out of cards. Kaladin, our savior moved there... so there is the place we should go. I mean, im going, but if you want to stay here, with people who wanted to shutdown this, goood luck and enjoy!
This kind of presumptuous shit is the reason most people will stay at Heathpwn; I see no reason to give up a functioning site for one in construction, when that happens then people will actually make a decision.
If you thought you knew what you think I know, then you'd know I knew you knew I know.
So you prefer people who wanted to shutdown the site and community? Only reason they are keeping it up now, is because of rivalty and money. On the other hand, the fluxx and other staff made the hearthpwn what it is now. Im sure they will make out of cards even better.
All of those who don't know what to do now that the mods went to another site and someone new is running Hearthpwn:
Go to outof.cards and read the "Letter from Flux". After that you'll definitely know if you want to stay or go.
I'd also highlight here a difference between corporate bean counters, who think with their wallets and the passionate gaming community members that administrate sites such as this. Although I am somewhat cynical about the new ownership, I'm not going to tarnish them so early on because of the questionable antics of Curse.
Golden Hero Collections thus far; -
Europe: Druid, Hunter, Paladin, Mage, Priest, Rogue, Shaman, Warlock, Warrior (9/9)
Americas: Druid, Mage, Paladin Shaman (4/9)
Everywhere else: Workin on it.. (0/9)
People usually dont bite bricks to stay alive. Ofcourse everyone is after some sweet sweet money. I'm not gonna judge anyone with their ambitions to earn more. But as a customer I request quality. If flux can make the better website, I'll leave. If curse can, I'll stay. Simple stuff. I'm not fully objective tho, as is no one. Curse does not have a "clean reputation" and flux is my boi. Hearthpwn has more stuff to prove.
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"Drastic change" ah yes...registering to a new site, something you do tens of times a year...very drastic
Do whatever you want. But you're exaggerating.
Registering and staying with a site are two entirely different concepts. Anyone can make an account, only someone with dedication will frequent a site every day. I don't see the hyperbole in that but to each their own.
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Makes me feel sick!
-let´s negotiate: you concede and I let you live...