The thing is, when you are playing a mobile game, you could playing anybody doing anything. People play games on their phones to fill time. You could be playing a friend who is on that person's acct, sometimes I wonder if I'm playing somebody's kid. The makers of this game have limited our socializing to emotes. We have so little interaction because of salt. Don't add to it.
To be fair, not much thought is required to play this game well. Rng is the name of the game.
I’d say people who rope when they have no chance to win. Those are bad players. Other than hat it’s hard to tell since luck is the biggest factor in the game.
i predict the incoming comment: “People who think luck dictates games are bad players” lmfao!
Ironic coming from you. All your threads are asking other people for advice. Not much thought is required when you farm out your answers to the community.
You know when you're facing a bad player when; He has a name like; Swagbruh or DankMemes or A random food or random item like 'Buttermilk' or 'HepaFilter' as their name. We also have the "watch out we have a badass in the house" names like 'killyoubro' or 'Annihilateyou' or 'Yourpwnd'. Add in bad spelling and numbers or cradle the name with x's at the start and end. Sometimes we have the bad players who compare themselves to deities like "GodRank' or the opposite like "GodKiller'. Then there are the slew of pants names which I see about quite a few a day like 'grumpypants' or 'swagpants' but really all the pants players should be called 'ClownPants'
Oh good to know! So everyone named Ruslana is a pornactress and people named Bob are builders/contractors.
Check the names on this list from the top HS players in Feb2019 and you're first point is proven wrong already:
Or instead of focusing on just one part of the post to reply with you take the whole thing into the proper context and see that it is a cumulative description of a bad player not just one off observations that make the whole.
The entire post was a shitshow to begin with. Can't blame people for cherrypicking to try and salvage what little is worth salvaging, to be fair.
You know when you're facing a bad player when; He has a name like; Swagbruh or DankMemes or A random food or random item like 'Buttermilk' or 'HepaFilter' as their name. We also have the "watch out we have a badass in the house" names like 'killyoubro' or 'Annihilateyou' or 'Yourpwnd'. Add in bad spelling and numbers or cradle the name with x's at the start and end. Sometimes we have the bad players who compare themselves to deities like "GodRank' or the opposite like "GodKiller'. Then there are the slew of pants names which I see about quite a few a day like 'grumpypants' or 'swagpants' but really all the pants players should be called 'ClownPants'
Oh good to know! So everyone named Ruslana is a pornactress and people named Bob are builders/contractors.
Check the names on this list from the top HS players in Feb2019 and you're first point is proven wrong already:
Or instead of focusing on just one part of the post to reply with you take the whole thing into the proper context and see that it is a cumulative description of a bad player not just one off observations that make the whole.
The entire post was a shitshow to begin with. Can't blame people for cherrypicking to try and salvage what little is worth salvaging, to be fair.
Defend it if you must but it is ignoring 95% of what I wrote and even denying that the type of player I was describing exists. They exist and they all have the same characteristics as I described in my original post. Seems to have touched a nerve with some here.
Good Lord, you people just went and gave a thread you find abhorrent 4k views and 4 pages of replies. Why do you keep these threads alive if you hate them so much, Hearthpwn, why?
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Start of Year: Provoke the failure of 3 expansions, force nerfs on otherwise balanced cards, bring deckbuilding to an all-time low and get rotated one year earlier for being such a threat to the game's health. - Genn and Baku's historical entry on the White Book of Shit Design, shortly before retiring unpunished
To be fair, not much thought is required to play this game well. Rng is the name of the game.
I’d say people who rope when they have no chance to win. Those are bad players. Other than hat it’s hard to tell since luck is the biggest factor in the game.
i predict the incoming comment: “People who think luck dictates games are bad players” lmfao!
Ironic coming from you. All your threads are asking other people for advice. Not much thought is required when you farm out your answers to the community.
I’m a lousy deck builder, and like to know what people thinks of specific cards before crafting.
This isn't meant to troll but rather from the funny side of Hearthstone. If any apply to you then yes, you need to reconsider your choices in Hearthstone.
You know when you're facing a bad player when; He has a name like; Swagbruh or DankMemes or A random food or item like 'Buttermilk' or 'HepaFilter' as their name. We also have the "watch out we have a badass in the house" names like 'killyoubro' or 'Annihilateyou' or 'Yourpwnd'. Add in bad spelling and numbers or cradle the name with x's at the start and end. Sometimes we have the bad players who compare themselves to deities like "GodRank' or the opposite like "GodKiller'. Then there are the slew of pants names which I see about quite a few a day like 'grumpypants' or 'swagpants' but really all the pants players should be called 'ClownPants'.
Aside from names to know you are playing a bad player is the choice of deck. Most common is a mindless aggro deck and yes aggro is mindless and doesn't take much decision making especially when all they do is go face. The good aggro players know when to trade and don't just go face. Usually out of cards in hand by turn 4. Currently we have the bad players picking the straight murloc deck. They don't trade they just go face regardless of what deck you are playing or your minions on the board. Even if it helps them avoid death or better their situation in the match they will not trade cause must go face. They concede by turn 7 if they haven't won by then. They play a minion that has a battlecry that has no valid effect to what they are currently doing. They just had a card so they played a card. They may also play the most common deck and currently that is rogue. They will still play the pre-nerf version of it and do it badly. Like not noticing the combo isn't active on getting lackeys and then pause and wonder what went wrong.
They play very quickly. No thought goes into what they do. As soon as it is their turn they wildly play minions and go face and only go face. There is an exception to their quick play style. If you play a taunt they stop.. freeze.. confused as what to do and most likely will concede after about 10 seconds.
At each turn when they go face they will alway emote either the hello, wow, or the threat emote without fail even waiting till they are able to again before ending their turn. In other words, just BM.
Some will not concede by turn 7 when they are losing. Some will then turn into sore losers and rope you each turn. I'm thinking they are hoping you concede cause they can't handle losing or just being the sad snowflakes they are. Again more BM cause they don't know any better.
Whelp! This started out as an amusingly interesting post idea which I was enjoying for a moment... and then suddenly appeared to devolve into a bog-standard "Herp! Me hate aggro decks because me don't understand them and think that going face must mean da player is bad...." derp-fest. Which is a shame, because stuff like playernames can indeed be quite funny. If it had been a short quip about aggro players being "bad", followed by examples of other deck styles being bad, it would have probably got a good laugh and a thumbs up. Instead, this just comes across as another salty rant about aggro decks. Such a shame...
Instead, you could have said things like: "Control player who spends every turn wiping the board and waiting for Fatigue to eventually kill you, then Emote-spamming at the end as if they did something new and inventive." "Player who misses every obvious trade or optimum play then proceeds to get lethal from an I-Win card like Zuljin or Yogg-Saron and Spams "Amazing!" or "That's incredible!"... " "Player who sees you have 6 health and takes an entire turn to work out how to play the single Leeroy Jenkins card in his hand before the rope finally burns out." "Player who attempts to The Coin + Mountain Giant. Ever..." "Any player that accepts your Friend Invite then actually gets upset when you don't proceed to flame him for the previous game - this has happened to me on so many occasions, it's bonkers!" "Any player who wins a game, then accepts your friend request and then starts to flame YOU even though they won the game. Yes, this has happened to me a lot too. People are weird..."
Wow, am I the only one who read this thread as just a bit of fun? You can't take what OP says so seriously. It's obviously extremely tongue-in-cheek, yet became an "Um, honey, y'know, akshully..." thread immediately.
So, at the risk of being flamed, I'm just gonna join in on what I believe the initial idea for the thread was about:
Over-emoting: When I start a game and get a "Hello", I think they are polite opponent. When I start a game and get "My magic will tear you apart" I immediately think "Is this guy seriously trying to tilt me already, at turn 1?" Then, they proceed with their "Wow"s and "Well Played"s, which makes me think "Yeah, they're trying to put me off my game already!". Instantly makes me squelch and think they're gonna be bad players.
Playing THE tier 1 deck in casual: Bit of a double edged sword here, cos on the one hand, they might just be playing this deck in casual to guarantee the daily quest completion, but on the other hand, they may just not be good enough to cut it in ranked even with the best deck out there! I tend to assume the latter!
Coining out hero power turn 1: Not always a bad play necessarily, but when this happens, I can't help but think this is a massive mistake!
Aggro players who never trade: Yes, I'm jumping on the aggro bandwagon, but with a certified caveat. I play all kinds of deck, but tbh, prefer control. So, when I have a 2/3 turn play in mind, and they don't trade off my dangerous minion (Lets say something like a Antonidas or Malygos, for the sake of an OTT example), then I can't help but think they don't know what they're doing...
Similarly, control players who over-trade: Sure, a lot of control decks rely on removing the board all the time to win, but sometimes players are over-cautious. Especially against OTK or warrior decks. Sometimes control players need to know when they're out-controlled and need to amend their gameplan. I see this happen a lot and always think my opponent only has a plan A and nothing else.
Whelp! This started out as an amusingly interesting post idea which I was enjoying for a moment... and then suddenly appeared to devolve into a bog-standard "Herp! Me hate aggro decks because me don't understand them and think that going face must mean da player is bad...." derp-fest. Which is a shame, because stuff like playernames can indeed be quite funny. If it had been a short quip about aggro players being "bad", followed by examples of other deck styles being bad, it would have probably got a good laugh and a thumbs up. Instead, this just comes across as another salty rant about aggro decks. Such a shame...
Instead, you could have said things like: "Control player who spends every turn wiping the board and waiting for Fatigue to eventually kill you, then Emote-spamming at the end as if they did something new and inventive." "Player who misses every obvious trade or optimum play then proceeds to get lethal from an I-Win card like Zuljin or Yogg-Saron and Spams "Amazing!" or "That's incredible!"... " "Player who sees you have 6 health and takes an entire turn to work out how to play the single Leeroy Jenkins card in his hand before the rope finally burns out." "Player who attempts to The Coin + Mountain Giant. Ever..." "Any player that accepts your Friend Invite then actually gets upset when you don't proceed to flame him for the previous game - this has happened to me on so many occasions, it's bonkers!" "Any player who wins a game, then accepts your friend request and then starts to flame YOU even though they won the game. Yes, this has happened to me a lot too. People are weird..."
I completely agree with you. I am a person, that loves making fun of trite stereotypes. At first I also enjoyed the post, until it started criticizing only a specific play-style, which lead to the entire thread taking a wrong turn. Pity, we would have had something to joke about like that Dire Molepage, if OP had included other stereotypes like the ones you mentioned. Now I expect a moderator to close it.
I have another suggestion for a cliche - "players with Slavic names. It doesn't matter if they are written in Cyrillic or in Latin - if you encounter a person with such a name, you have toexpect tons of misplays and emotes from them. Probably a friend request as well and if you accept it, the person will offend you in their own language". Bit it might sound too xenophobic and offensive to some people.
You know when you're facing a bad player when; He has a name like; Swagbruh or DankMemes or A random food or item like 'Buttermilk' or 'HepaFilter' as their name. We also have the "watch out we have a badass in the house" names like 'killyoubro' or 'Annihilateyou' or 'Yourpwnd'. Add in bad spelling and numbers or cradle the name with x's at the start and end. Sometimes we have the bad players who compare themselves to deities like "GodRank' or the opposite like "GodKiller'. Then there are the slew of pants names which I see about quite a few a day like 'grumpypants' or 'swagpants' but really all the pants players should be called 'ClownPants'.
So I'm assuming, by this argument, that killinallday, a guy that featured in many HS Pro tour tournaments, is a bad player?
Whelp! This started out as an amusingly interesting post idea which I was enjoying for a moment... and then suddenly appeared to devolve into a bog-standard "Herp! Me hate aggro decks because me don't understand them and think that going face must mean da player is bad...." derp-fest. Which is a shame, because stuff like playernames can indeed be quite funny. If it had been a short quip about aggro players being "bad", followed by examples of other deck styles being bad, it would have probably got a good laugh and a thumbs up. Instead, this just comes across as another salty rant about aggro decks. Such a shame...
Instead, you could have said things like: "Control player who spends every turn wiping the board and waiting for Fatigue to eventually kill you, then Emote-spamming at the end as if they did something new and inventive." "Player who misses every obvious trade or optimum play then proceeds to get lethal from an I-Win card like Zuljin or Yogg-Saron and Spams "Amazing!" or "That's incredible!"... " "Player who sees you have 6 health and takes an entire turn to work out how to play the single Leeroy Jenkins card in his hand before the rope finally burns out." "Player who attempts to The Coin + Mountain Giant. Ever..." "Any player that accepts your Friend Invite then actually gets upset when you don't proceed to flame him for the previous game - this has happened to me on so many occasions, it's bonkers!" "Any player who wins a game, then accepts your friend request and then starts to flame YOU even though they won the game. Yes, this has happened to me a lot too. People are weird..."
I completely agree with you. I am a person, that loves making fun of trite stereotypes. At first I also enjoyed the post, until it started criticizing only a specific play-style, which lead to the entire thread taking a wrong turn. Pity, we would have had something to joke about like that Dire Molepage, if OP had included other stereotypes like the ones you mentioned. Now I expect a moderator to close it.
I have another suggestion for a cliche - "players with Slavic names. It doesn't matter if they are written in Cyrillic or in Latin - if you encounter a person with such a name, you have toexpect tons of misplays and emotes from them. Probably a friend request as well and if you accept it, the person will offend you in their own language". Bit it might sound too xenophobic and offensive to some people.
I had a fun one the other day. After I beat a guy (some russian dood), he proceeded to Friend-vite me. I accepted and decided to say nothing and see what happened next. He then spam-flamed me in Russian (I Google-translated some of it to see. It was.... inventive)... but still, I remained silent and didn't respond. I think he must have realised I may not understand russian, because he then started flaming me in English. Me = still silent. I was then privy to an amazing linguistical flame-spam in (I kid you not) something like 5 or 6 different languages in total, all trying to get a response out of me. I wanted to relay how impressed I was at the polylinguistics, but that would have given him the benefit of a response. So I stayed silent and let him leave and de-friend me in a rage. Sometimes refusal to receive attention is the best discipline for some people. :-D
Before we can spot a bad player it might be necessary to define what a bad player is. And I am afraid that we are not all on the same page here. I can think of a number of definitions to rate a player:
winrate below a certain percentage
lifetime achievements (highest rank attained etc, total price money earned, number of followers on stream)
average number of obvious misplays per game
number of high legend finishes
All these chracteristics can only be observed after more than one game. So my first thought about this question is: you can only spot a bad player once you have faced him at least 5 times (or some other meaningful number) or have some record of how he is doing over a longer period of time.
The fooling around with emotes or handling of the rope and even his name can be part of a decoy to make you believe you are dealing with a bad player, in other words these are the common plays of the hustler. And even an obvious misplay at some not so important moment in the game can be intentional (to invite extra agression etc). It is possible to bluff in HS.
So I think its not so easy to recognize a bad player from one game experience.
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The thing is, when you are playing a mobile game, you could playing anybody doing anything. People play games on their phones to fill time. You could be playing a friend who is on that person's acct, sometimes I wonder if I'm playing somebody's kid. The makers of this game have limited our socializing to emotes. We have so little interaction because of salt. Don't add to it.
Ironic coming from you. All your threads are asking other people for advice. Not much thought is required when you farm out your answers to the community.
The entire post was a shitshow to begin with. Can't blame people for cherrypicking to try and salvage what little is worth salvaging, to be fair.
Defend it if you must but it is ignoring 95% of what I wrote and even denying that the type of player I was describing exists. They exist and they all have the same characteristics as I described in my original post. Seems to have touched a nerve with some here.
Good Lord, you people just went and gave a thread you find abhorrent 4k views and 4 pages of replies. Why do you keep these threads alive if you hate them so much, Hearthpwn, why?
Start of Year: Provoke the failure of 3 expansions, force nerfs on otherwise balanced cards, bring deckbuilding to an all-time low and get rotated one year earlier for being such a threat to the game's health.
- Genn and Baku's historical entry on the White Book of Shit Design, shortly before retiring unpunished
I’m a lousy deck builder, and like to know what people thinks of specific cards before crafting.
Of all these members, why attack me? Lmfao
Having read your post, I found this to be untrue.
Whelp! This started out as an amusingly interesting post idea which I was enjoying for a moment... and then suddenly appeared to devolve into a bog-standard "Herp! Me hate aggro decks because me don't understand them and think that going face must mean da player is bad...." derp-fest.
Which is a shame, because stuff like playernames can indeed be quite funny.
If it had been a short quip about aggro players being "bad", followed by examples of other deck styles being bad, it would have probably got a good laugh and a thumbs up. Instead, this just comes across as another salty rant about aggro decks. Such a shame...
Instead, you could have said things like:
"Control player who spends every turn wiping the board and waiting for Fatigue to eventually kill you, then Emote-spamming at the end as if they did something new and inventive."
"Player who misses every obvious trade or optimum play then proceeds to get lethal from an I-Win card like Zuljin or Yogg-Saron and Spams "Amazing!" or "That's incredible!"... "
"Player who sees you have 6 health and takes an entire turn to work out how to play the single Leeroy Jenkins card in his hand before the rope finally burns out."
"Player who attempts to The Coin + Mountain Giant. Ever..."
"Any player that accepts your Friend Invite then actually gets upset when you don't proceed to flame him for the previous game - this has happened to me on so many occasions, it's bonkers!"
"Any player who wins a game, then accepts your friend request and then starts to flame YOU even though they won the game. Yes, this has happened to me a lot too. People are weird..."
threads like these
Wow, am I the only one who read this thread as just a bit of fun? You can't take what OP says so seriously. It's obviously extremely tongue-in-cheek, yet became an "Um, honey, y'know, akshully..." thread immediately.
So, at the risk of being flamed, I'm just gonna join in on what I believe the initial idea for the thread was about:
Over-emoting: When I start a game and get a "Hello", I think they are polite opponent. When I start a game and get "My magic will tear you apart" I immediately think "Is this guy seriously trying to tilt me already, at turn 1?" Then, they proceed with their "Wow"s and "Well Played"s, which makes me think "Yeah, they're trying to put me off my game already!". Instantly makes me squelch and think they're gonna be bad players.
Playing THE tier 1 deck in casual: Bit of a double edged sword here, cos on the one hand, they might just be playing this deck in casual to guarantee the daily quest completion, but on the other hand, they may just not be good enough to cut it in ranked even with the best deck out there! I tend to assume the latter!
Coining out hero power turn 1: Not always a bad play necessarily, but when this happens, I can't help but think this is a massive mistake!
Aggro players who never trade: Yes, I'm jumping on the aggro bandwagon, but with a certified caveat. I play all kinds of deck, but tbh, prefer control. So, when I have a 2/3 turn play in mind, and they don't trade off my dangerous minion (Lets say something like a Antonidas or Malygos, for the sake of an OTT example), then I can't help but think they don't know what they're doing...
Similarly, control players who over-trade: Sure, a lot of control decks rely on removing the board all the time to win, but sometimes players are over-cautious. Especially against OTK or warrior decks. Sometimes control players need to know when they're out-controlled and need to amend their gameplan. I see this happen a lot and always think my opponent only has a plan A and nothing else.
I completely agree with you. I am a person, that loves making fun of trite stereotypes. At first I also enjoyed the post, until it started criticizing only a specific play-style, which lead to the entire thread taking a wrong turn. Pity, we would have had something to joke about like that Dire Mole page, if OP had included other stereotypes like the ones you mentioned. Now I expect a moderator to close it.
I have another suggestion for a cliche - "players with Slavic names. It doesn't matter if they are written in Cyrillic or in Latin - if you encounter a person with such a name, you have to expect tons of misplays and emotes from them. Probably a friend request as well and if you accept it, the person will offend you in their own language". Bit it might sound too xenophobic and offensive to some people.
1. Open your smartphone's camera app.
2. Select front camera.
3. Profit.
It worked on my device!
I will crush you!
So I'm assuming, by this argument, that killinallday, a guy that featured in many HS Pro tour tournaments, is a bad player?
Ranked game wins per class (26/Dec/2018): Druid - 457; Hunter - 482; Mage - 345; Paladin - 435; Priest - 295; Rogue - 234; Shaman - 430; Warlock - 419; Warrior - 367
I really should update my signature more often...
I had a fun one the other day.
After I beat a guy (some russian dood), he proceeded to Friend-vite me. I accepted and decided to say nothing and see what happened next.
He then spam-flamed me in Russian (I Google-translated some of it to see. It was.... inventive)... but still, I remained silent and didn't respond.
I think he must have realised I may not understand russian, because he then started flaming me in English.
Me = still silent.
I was then privy to an amazing linguistical flame-spam in (I kid you not) something like 5 or 6 different languages in total, all trying to get a response out of me.
I wanted to relay how impressed I was at the polylinguistics, but that would have given him the benefit of a response. So I stayed silent and let him leave and de-friend me in a rage. Sometimes refusal to receive attention is the best discipline for some people. :-D
Before we can spot a bad player it might be necessary to define what a bad player is. And I am afraid that we are not all on the same page here. I can think of a number of definitions to rate a player:
All these chracteristics can only be observed after more than one game. So my first thought about this question is: you can only spot a bad player once you have faced him at least 5 times (or some other meaningful number) or have some record of how he is doing over a longer period of time.
The fooling around with emotes or handling of the rope and even his name can be part of a decoy to make you believe you are dealing with a bad player, in other words these are the common plays of the hustler. And even an obvious misplay at some not so important moment in the game can be intentional (to invite extra agression etc). It is possible to bluff in HS.
So I think its not so easy to recognize a bad player from one game experience.