It's really simple. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Some of you sound like the type of person who complains about a TV show they've seen....
"It was disgusting. I sat through the whole hour and have never been so shocked"
Why? Change the damn channel. There is sooo much choice out there.
As for those of you saying "Scam!! Waaaahhhh" it's not. We all knew what it would be, we all knew we'd have to pay, either in Gold or Cash, if we wanted it. How the fuck is it a scam if we knew what we were getting?
So. Either buy it, play it and enjoy it. Or don't. The choice is almost certainly yours.
To be honest, I think people are just spoiled\bored by completely free dungeon runs. If that a completely new content we would see much less people whining about "greedy Blizzard" (we would see them anyway) and more praising how it is worth every cent.
As I said above I am spoiled, too. It is just not that much of improvement of a game mode that I enjoyed a lot in the past but now don't find it that interesting even with improvements. If it was fresh, I'd easily pay $40 for it with no packs included. I'll still probably buy all wings with gold on my secondary server mostly because I don't really care about collection there but doubt that I'll play a lot.
Also, I am not entertained but annoyed by this overly cartoonish villains easily conquering a city full of powerful mages who act like incompetent idiots. The whole theme of the expansion is too childish for my tastes.
Had they tied up more exclusive cards into the game (like the old adventure mode), people would complain that they were forcing users to spend more money and it's not fair on F2P, etc, etc.
I don't think Blizzard do everything perfectly, but they cannot win. If you did not enjoy the first wing, do not buy the rest. Once all the other characters are unlocked over the coming weeks, the first free chapter is the size of their previous free content like Dungeon Run.
I'm sorry, but this is not a cash grab or a scam. It's paying for X4 additional dungeon runs if you enjoyed the first free one.
Had they tied up more exclusive cards into the game (like the old adventure mode), people would complain that they were forcing users to spend more money and it's not fair on F2P, etc, etc.
Well, you have to understand none of this is exactly new. We have had these rewards and this (admittedly less polished) game mode for free in the past. More importantly: we've had this price in the past, and it yielded better stuff for the consumer. So if we are paying the same for less valuable stuff that used to be free, instead of the more valuable stuff that we used to pay for... well, what exactly is wrong about being displeased with it?
If Blizzard suddenly charged 200-300g to play Tavern Brawl every week, would people call all these other free brawls demos and call complainers entitled too? My guess, sadly, is that yes, many would.
But the saddest part for me is that the content is really good. It just happens to be promoted by a pile of obsolete packs, a meh legendary and at the cost of my ability to keep up when the next expansion hits.
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Start of Year: Provoke the failure of 3 expansions, force nerfs on otherwise balanced cards, bring deckbuilding to an all-time low and get rotated one year earlier for being such a threat to the game's health. - Genn and Baku's historical entry on the White Book of Shit Design, shortly before retiring unpunished
If you guys can remember back far enough when Blizzard announced they would be switching to full expansion releases instead of rotating between expansion and adventure they originally stated that the adventure (single player content) would be INCLUDED with the expansions.
Now they are hacking off adventure content so they can once again be charging for expansion and adventure modes. Except this time the adventures don't even introduce new cards. This is straight up and intentional double dipping screwing customers. The original content release format would have 3 new releases per year rotating between adventure/expansion, now that number is increased to 6 times customers are charged.
It's fitting that they call this a Heist because that's exactly what this is.
First, you aren't a customer if you aren't buying anything, so no customer is being screwed.
If you truly believe it's not worth the price, you should not buy it. If you buy something you believe is not worth it, you are screwing yourself.
There is nothing sleazy about Blizzard taking money from those of us who think it is worth the price.
There is something very sleazy about people who don't think they should have to pay for their entertainment.
Over the past 20 years i have spent thousands of dollars on Blizzard products so i absolutely consider myself a customer. We can talk more when you take off those tinted glasses.
Okay here are my last two cents for everyone. For those who like it, great we are happy. For those who don't like it, keep complaining make some polls to have votes. HOPEFULLY your complaints will be heard by blizzard. GOODNIGHT TO ALL!!
The only bummer for me is how there are still order issues with bosses. I played against the healing boss and she healed a minion, then her own face, and only then played a minion that gets buffed from healing characters..
I don't want to spend the money on this adventure because I am on a tight budget and I'd rather spend my summer outside and leave the gaming for the rainy days. And the gold cost is just way too high. 700g for 3 packs, do it 4 times and you get 5 golden classic cards and a legendary that's only useful to players with small collections, as pointed out before, need the gold for packs in the new expansion to stay competitive.
I did enjoy the first wing, but it was really easy and I've never had issues with the other dungeon run iterations either so I'm in no hurry opening more wings. If it wasn't 700g but say 400-500 I would definitely open the wings. With the amount I play 2800g is usually around the amount I'm able to save up for a new expac *shrug*
What makes it even more awkward for F2P players is that RoS packs are not something F2P want at this point, they are already in a "save for the next expansion" mode. So even partial return of spent gold is meh here. having 28 less packs at the launch of the next xpac is not a small price to pay.
Why don't you make it clear? The dalaran heist is a scam.
So correct me if i am wrong but this content is somewhat very similar to kobold and catacombs and witchwood dungeon runs... well, tbh is the exact same thing but extended. And now you have to pay for the same i got for free to obtain 15 packs and useless legendary? fucking scam.
15 packs 1 GOLDEN legendary 1 Golden pack and that for just 20$ and you call that scam?
Why don't you make it clear? The dalaran heist is a scam.
So correct me if i am wrong but this content is somewhat very similar to kobold and catacombs and witchwood dungeon runs... well, tbh is the exact same thing but extended. And now you have to pay for the same i got for free to obtain 15 packs and useless legendary? fucking scam.
15 packs 1 GOLDEN legendary 1 Golden pack and that for just 20$ and you call that scam go buy ome brains plz
Only for the purpose of being precise: It's 12 packs since the first 3 are free.
Why don't you make it clear? The dalaran heist is a scam.
So correct me if i am wrong but this content is somewhat very similar to kobold and catacombs and witchwood dungeon runs... well, tbh is the exact same thing but extended. And now you have to pay for the same i got for free to obtain 15 packs and useless legendary? fucking scam.
15 packs 1 GOLDEN legendary 1 Golden pack and that for just 20$ and you call that scam go buy ome brains plz
Why don't you make it clear? The dalaran heist is a scam.
So correct me if i am wrong but this content is somewhat very similar to kobold and catacombs and witchwood dungeon runs... well, tbh is the exact same thing but extended. And now you have to pay for the same i got for free to obtain 15 packs and useless legendary? fucking scam.
15 packs 1 GOLDEN legendary 1 Golden pack and that for just 20$ and you call that scam go buy ome brains plz
Why don't you make it clear? The dalaran heist is a scam.
So correct me if i am wrong but this content is somewhat very similar to kobold and catacombs and witchwood dungeon runs... well, tbh is the exact same thing but extended. And now you have to pay for the same i got for free to obtain 15 packs and useless legendary? fucking scam.
15 packs 1 GOLDEN legendary 1 Golden pack and that for just 20$ and you call that scam go buy ome brains plz
12 packs
pff no you got for theWHOLEadventure 15 packs
The first wing ( awarded with 3 packs ) is free. No matter how you capitalize or colour it.
Why don't you make it clear? The dalaran heist is a scam.
So correct me if i am wrong but this content is somewhat very similar to kobold and catacombs and witchwood dungeon runs... well, tbh is the exact same thing but extended. And now you have to pay for the same i got for free to obtain 15 packs and useless legendary? fucking scam.
15 packs 1 GOLDEN legendary 1 Golden pack and that for just 20$ and you call that scam go buy ome brains plz
12 packs
pff no you got for theWHOLEadventure 15 packs
The first wing ( awarded with 3 packs ) is free. No matter how you capitalize or colour it.
I can't understand why some people continue to insist, that we get 15 packs if we purchase the whole adventure. It has been discussed over and over again, that the first chapter and thus the first 3 packs are free and EVERYONE has access to them, yet some users continue to claim that we get 15 packs for 20$ and try to make their arguments sound more convincing.
It's kinda hard to talk to them, amirite, Omicron_Persei?
Do like the adventures but Blizzard won't get any money from me until they do something about constructed.
It's really simple. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Some of you sound like the type of person who complains about a TV show they've seen....
"It was disgusting. I sat through the whole hour and have never been so shocked"
Why? Change the damn channel. There is sooo much choice out there.
As for those of you saying "Scam!! Waaaahhhh" it's not. We all knew what it would be, we all knew we'd have to pay, either in Gold or Cash, if we wanted it. How the fuck is it a scam if we knew what we were getting?
So. Either buy it, play it and enjoy it. Or don't. The choice is almost certainly yours.
4/3/19 RIP Keith Flint. 😔
To be honest, I think people are just spoiled\bored by completely free dungeon runs. If that a completely new content we would see much less people whining about "greedy Blizzard" (we would see them anyway) and more praising how it is worth every cent.
As I said above I am spoiled, too. It is just not that much of improvement of a game mode that I enjoyed a lot in the past but now don't find it that interesting even with improvements. If it was fresh, I'd easily pay $40 for it with no packs included. I'll still probably buy all wings with gold on my secondary server mostly because I don't really care about collection there but doubt that I'll play a lot.
Also, I am not entertained but annoyed by this overly cartoonish villains easily conquering a city full of powerful mages who act like incompetent idiots. The whole theme of the expansion is too childish for my tastes.
Had they tied up more exclusive cards into the game (like the old adventure mode), people would complain that they were forcing users to spend more money and it's not fair on F2P, etc, etc.
I don't think Blizzard do everything perfectly, but they cannot win. If you did not enjoy the first wing, do not buy the rest. Once all the other characters are unlocked over the coming weeks, the first free chapter is the size of their previous free content like Dungeon Run.
I'm sorry, but this is not a cash grab or a scam. It's paying for X4 additional dungeon runs if you enjoyed the first free one.
Well, you have to understand none of this is exactly new. We have had these rewards and this (admittedly less polished) game mode for free in the past. More importantly: we've had this price in the past, and it yielded better stuff for the consumer. So if we are paying the same for less valuable stuff that used to be free, instead of the more valuable stuff that we used to pay for... well, what exactly is wrong about being displeased with it?
If Blizzard suddenly charged 200-300g to play Tavern Brawl every week, would people call all these other free brawls demos and call complainers entitled too? My guess, sadly, is that yes, many would.
But the saddest part for me is that the content is really good. It just happens to be promoted by a pile of obsolete packs, a meh legendary and at the cost of my ability to keep up when the next expansion hits.
Start of Year: Provoke the failure of 3 expansions, force nerfs on otherwise balanced cards, bring deckbuilding to an all-time low and get rotated one year earlier for being such a threat to the game's health.
- Genn and Baku's historical entry on the White Book of Shit Design, shortly before retiring unpunished
Over the past 20 years i have spent thousands of dollars on Blizzard products so i absolutely consider myself a customer. We can talk more when you take off those tinted glasses.
Okay here are my last two cents for everyone.
For those who like it, great we are happy.
For those who don't like it, keep complaining make some polls to have votes. HOPEFULLY your complaints will be heard by blizzard.
GOODNIGHT TO ALL!!
The only bummer for me is how there are still order issues with bosses. I played against the healing boss and she healed a minion, then her own face, and only then played a minion that gets buffed from healing characters..
I don't want to spend the money on this adventure because I am on a tight budget and I'd rather spend my summer outside and leave the gaming for the rainy days. And the gold cost is just way too high. 700g for 3 packs, do it 4 times and you get 5 golden classic cards and a legendary that's only useful to players with small collections, as pointed out before, need the gold for packs in the new expansion to stay competitive.
I did enjoy the first wing, but it was really easy and I've never had issues with the other dungeon run iterations either so I'm in no hurry opening more wings. If it wasn't 700g but say 400-500 I would definitely open the wings. With the amount I play 2800g is usually around the amount I'm able to save up for a new expac *shrug*
What makes it even more awkward for F2P players is that RoS packs are not something F2P want at this point, they are already in a "save for the next expansion" mode. So even partial return of spent gold is meh here. having 28 less packs at the launch of the next xpac is not a small price to pay.
I can't believe some people defend every blizzard's decision like they own the company.
One small advice for you grow the hell up!!!
Dead but dreaming
It's not about defending every decision. It's about laughing at people who wine about everything.
hahahahahah one week o replayabillity please read dude you anomly mode that always a new to run ;)
15 packs
1 GOLDEN legendary
1 Golden pack and that for just 20$ and you call that scam?
maybe you should grown up for crying like a baby
Only for the purpose of being precise: It's 12 packs since the first 3 are free.
12 packs
pff no you got for the WHOLE adventure 15 packs
The first wing ( awarded with 3 packs ) is free. No matter how you capitalize or colour it.
The problem is that you not really get a golden legendary, since it's not disenchantable. You get a really bad legendary, which is worth 0 dust.
I can't understand why some people continue to insist, that we get 15 packs if we purchase the whole adventure. It has been discussed over and over again, that the first chapter and thus the first 3 packs are free and EVERYONE has access to them, yet some users continue to claim that we get 15 packs for 20$ and try to make their arguments sound more convincing.
It's kinda hard to talk to them, amirite, Omicron_Persei?
Poor people, smh..
Suck My Lollipop!