Please don't listen to anyone saying the matchmaking is rigged or whatever. That is just some weird salty conspiracy around here about that and it's best to ignore it because it's silly as hell.
I also wouldn't put too much stock into trying to read/counter the meta at your rank or whatever. That is only really useful when going the last few ranks to legend and for climbing high legend. At those ranks you're going to see all kinds of shit. You don't need to try to counter queue. As long as you aren't playing a deck that is straight up terrible in the meta, then you'll be fine.
Pick something that does one of the following
Beats Rogue
Beats Warrior
Has even matchups with Rogue and Warrior
Find a deck that does one of these things that you enjoy playing. Enjoying the deck will make you more willing to learn and play games. Learn the deck and maximize your play. People put way too much stock in tech cards and countering the meta. Proficient play and mulligan are the most important thing when climbing. Playing something that beats a certain deck and rolling over them when you see them is easy. But knowing how to play your bad matchups and turning those unlikely wins into stars is how you climb the ladder.
A lot of people queue into a bad matchup and go "wow rock paper scissors meta, I lose, matchmaking is clearly rigged" but if you play to your win condition then you'll win some of those bad matchups, no match is 100-0.
Don't keep switching decks every other game, people never get good at playing a deck because they keep switching as soon as they start losing so they never get to now the ins and out of their decks so they keep losing on basic things like mulligans and general piloting against other specific decks and then blame it on bad luck, RNG and getting nut drawn (Which are factors but for sure are less prominent that you would think). The best advice anyone can give you is just to stick to a good deck and actually learn it, of course at first your winrate is not gonna be the best possible but that's the way to learn anything, first you suck and then you start to get progressivvely better.
Any of the 3 decks you mentioned are either tier 1 or high tier 2 so the decks are definitely not the problem, all the decks are fine to climb to top 1 legend so again, they are not the issue, and I highly doubt you're queueing nothing but unfavorable every time you switch it's statistically very unlikely so just stick to a deck. Don't know how experienced you are but the hunter is by far the easiest deck and also the most solid one, after that the mage is very solid but it takes some time to get used to, finally nomi priest is arguably the best deck atm but it has an insane learning curve, it even takes pros a couple weeks to start seing consistent results with it.
The first sentence is pretty much the answer here. You should only be switching heavily if you are able to accurately read shifts in local meta's and/or are counter-queuing an opponent that you're facing repeatedly at high ranks (ie. 1 to Legend)
The reason it is difficult to climb out of Ranks 15+ is because people play more classes at lower ranks compared to only the best classes at higher ranks.
For example, at higher ranks, you will see mainly Tempo Rogue, Control Warrior and Mage decks.
But at lower ranks, you will see more of Token Druid, Murloc Shaman, Bomb Warrior, Bomb Hunter and Mech Paladins which are not as frequently played at higher ranks.
This means that you will run into more unfavorable matchups with whichever deck you've chosen to climb ladder.
The only way to climb out of Rank 15 is to get lucky and run into favorable matchups consecutively such that you are able to develop a crazy win streak to propel you up the ladder. That was my experience; I got lucky and kept running into Control Warriors, which happened to be a favorable matchup for me.
Pick an agressive deck. I started with murloc shaman yesterday at 15, played for 6 hours and stopped at rank 2. With agressive decks you sometimes win in round 4, you play so many more games than with control warrior
The meta can start to feel this way when there are a few highly polarizing decks at the top.
Ideally, you'd have a higher chance of winning matches even if you are not favored, but against these decks your chances of winning an unfavorable matchup are very, very tiny.
That makes you pay more attention to the bad matchups the game is serving you, which in turn leads to the feeling of intentional persecution.
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One of the biggest things I've learned is not to panic change decks. It's easy to consider switching after a run of say 7 losses in 10 but take a break. Either do something else or play some casual and mess about. Anything that doesn't have any pressure You quickly forget the times you win 7 or 8 in 10 but if the deck is capable then you'll hit that run again.
Also, the game is more nuanced than a large part of the community give it credit for. It isn't some trashy roll over kid's game, you do need to practice and get better. Best way to do that is sticking with a deck and fully understanding it. Getting to know properly how other classes play and more so, how different archetypes within those classes play. You'll need to mulligan differently and change your tactics up. That comes with practice. Stick with it.
I get to rank 2-3 every month with usually tier 3 or tier 4 decks so if you have tier 1/2 deck it should be relatively easy to get at least to 5. I suggest not to switch decks too often, focus on one type of deck and become a master of it, learn better lines, don't just play your cards on curve, spend some time thinking about your plays and what is the most optimal action given board state, your opponents deck and so on.
You can observe some high rank players battle when you get too fatigued, just chill out watching them play and see their lines and strategies and try to replicate that.
Of the decks you listed, all of them should be easy to get to high rank with except Nomi Priest, I think that deck is a meme personally. Midrange/secret hunter is also quite good, you already play hunter so might have cards for that.
The reason it is difficult to climb out of Ranks 15+ is because people play more classes at lower ranks compared to only the best classes at higher ranks.
For example, at higher ranks, you will see mainly Tempo Rogue, Control Warrior and Mage decks.
But at lower ranks, you will see more of Token Druid, Murloc Shaman, Bomb Warrior, Bomb Hunter and Mech Paladins which are not as frequently played at higher ranks.
This means that you will run into more unfavorable matchups with whichever deck you've chosen to climb ladder.
The only way to climb out of Rank 15 is to get lucky and run into favorable matchups consecutively such that you are able to develop a crazy win streak to propel you up the ladder. That was my experience; I got lucky and kept running into Control Warriors, which happened to be a favorable matchup for me.
I think you're right! I just streaked it up to rank 13 w/ mech/bomb hunter and still goin'. I'm just so impatient I guess, lol.
One of the biggest things I've learned is not to panic change decks. It's easy to consider switching after a run of say 7 losses in 10 but take a break. Either do something else or play some casual and mess about. Anything that doesn't have any pressure You quickly forget the times you win 7 or 8 in 10 but if the deck is capable then you'll hit that run again.
Also, the game is more nuanced than a large part of the community give it credit for. It isn't some trashy roll over kid's game, you do need to practice and get better. Best way to do that is sticking with a deck and fully understanding it. Getting to know properly how other classes play and more so, how different archetypes within those classes play. You'll need to mulligan differently and change your tactics up. That comes with practice. Stick with it.
Good point, thanks, I guess I just need to do this no matter what... Not gonna lie, since it's not possible to go below rank 15 I've been trying out different decks yet again!! :o
I've always enjoyed hunter though, so I think I'll stick w/ Mech/Bomb Hunter especially w/ the win streak I have going.
Please don't listen to anyone saying the matchmaking is rigged or whatever. That is just some weird salty conspiracy around here about that and it's best to ignore it because it's silly as hell.
I also wouldn't put too much stock into trying to read/counter the meta at your rank or whatever. That is only really useful when going the last few ranks to legend and for climbing high legend. At those ranks you're going to see all kinds of shit. You don't need to try to counter queue. As long as you aren't playing a deck that is straight up terrible in the meta, then you'll be fine.
Pick something that does one of the following
Find a deck that does one of these things that you enjoy playing. Enjoying the deck will make you more willing to learn and play games. Learn the deck and maximize your play. People put way too much stock in tech cards and countering the meta. Proficient play and mulligan are the most important thing when climbing. Playing something that beats a certain deck and rolling over them when you see them is easy. But knowing how to play your bad matchups and turning those unlikely wins into stars is how you climb the ladder.
A lot of people queue into a bad matchup and go "wow rock paper scissors meta, I lose, matchmaking is clearly rigged" but if you play to your win condition then you'll win some of those bad matchups, no match is 100-0.
The first sentence is pretty much the answer here. You should only be switching heavily if you are able to accurately read shifts in local meta's and/or are counter-queuing an opponent that you're facing repeatedly at high ranks (ie. 1 to Legend)
Play decks in the meta and rest in between loses
I. Can. Not. Get. Past. Rank. 15. No. Matter. What. Deck. I. Use. Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
:( :( :( :( :( :(
The reason it is difficult to climb out of Ranks 15+ is because people play more classes at lower ranks compared to only the best classes at higher ranks.
For example, at higher ranks, you will see mainly Tempo Rogue, Control Warrior and Mage decks.
But at lower ranks, you will see more of Token Druid, Murloc Shaman, Bomb Warrior, Bomb Hunter and Mech Paladins which are not as frequently played at higher ranks.
This means that you will run into more unfavorable matchups with whichever deck you've chosen to climb ladder.
The only way to climb out of Rank 15 is to get lucky and run into favorable matchups consecutively such that you are able to develop a crazy win streak to propel you up the ladder. That was my experience; I got lucky and kept running into Control Warriors, which happened to be a favorable matchup for me.
Pick an agressive deck. I started with murloc shaman yesterday at 15, played for 6 hours and stopped at rank 2. With agressive decks you sometimes win in round 4, you play so many more games than with control warrior
The meta can start to feel this way when there are a few highly polarizing decks at the top.
Ideally, you'd have a higher chance of winning matches even if you are not favored, but against these decks your chances of winning an unfavorable matchup are very, very tiny.
That makes you pay more attention to the bad matchups the game is serving you, which in turn leads to the feeling of intentional persecution.
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
Stuck on 15 with Mech Hunter? I made Legend yesterday for the first time with mech Hunter, wtf :-D
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One of the biggest things I've learned is not to panic change decks. It's easy to consider switching after a run of say 7 losses in 10 but take a break. Either do something else or play some casual and mess about. Anything that doesn't have any pressure You quickly forget the times you win 7 or 8 in 10 but if the deck is capable then you'll hit that run again.
Also, the game is more nuanced than a large part of the community give it credit for. It isn't some trashy roll over kid's game, you do need to practice and get better. Best way to do that is sticking with a deck and fully understanding it. Getting to know properly how other classes play and more so, how different archetypes within those classes play. You'll need to mulligan differently and change your tactics up. That comes with practice. Stick with it.
I get to rank 2-3 every month with usually tier 3 or tier 4 decks so if you have tier 1/2 deck it should be relatively easy to get at least to 5. I suggest not to switch decks too often, focus on one type of deck and become a master of it, learn better lines, don't just play your cards on curve, spend some time thinking about your plays and what is the most optimal action given board state, your opponents deck and so on.
You can observe some high rank players battle when you get too fatigued, just chill out watching them play and see their lines and strategies and try to replicate that.
Of the decks you listed, all of them should be easy to get to high rank with except Nomi Priest, I think that deck is a meme personally. Midrange/secret hunter is also quite good, you already play hunter so might have cards for that.
I think you're right! I just streaked it up to rank 13 w/ mech/bomb hunter and still goin'. I'm just so impatient I guess, lol.
Good point, thanks, I guess I just need to do this no matter what... Not gonna lie, since it's not possible to go below rank 15 I've been trying out different decks yet again!! :o
I've always enjoyed hunter though, so I think I'll stick w/ Mech/Bomb Hunter especially w/ the win streak I have going.
Venomizer + Missile Launcher is nasty! Haha.