Here's the video of the OW Workshop. Basically, its a scripting toolset allowing players to create custom Overwatch game modes and heros. Imagine if the Hearthstone team did this for us so that we could create custom Play modes and even custom cards??? :D
Too confusing for casual players (same thing for more deck slots)
Well this thing would be designed for hardcore players. Nobody who's like "Eh, I play Hearthstone sometimes during my free time" is ever gonna want to use this feature, but people who love hearthstone will use this feature. It would never work though, the coding would be a mess and the community isn't exactly appreciative of Blizzard.
What would be your incentive to ever pay for anything again when you could just make whatever cards you wanted in this mode?
Don't get me wrong, as an avid creator of cards I'd love this. But it'd be ridiculous for Blizzard to allow you to create your own cards from a business standpoint.
As for gamemodes, that's just a custom games browser, which OW has already had for ages and which people have been asking for for Hearthstone for ages too, nothing special. I guess seeing this you could argue for a more creative custom games browser, but again, you couldn't let people touch individual cards.
Too confusing for casual players (same thing for more deck slots)
In OW, Jeff Kaplan admitted that only "power users" would likely design anything because you'd need some understanding of scripting to make it work even with the toolset overlay.
What would be your incentive to ever pay for anything again when you could just make whatever cards you wanted in this mode?
Don't get me wrong, as an avid creator of cards I'd love this. But it'd be ridiculous for Blizzard to allow you to create your own cards from a business standpoint.
As for gamemodes, that's just a custom games browser, which OW has already had for ages and which people have been asking for for Hearthstone for ages too, nothing special. I guess seeing this you could argue for a more creative custom games browser, but again, you couldn't let people touch individual cards.
If you don't want to spend money then you can play the game F2P. If you want to put in the work to script hundreds of cards then sure you can save money. Just like you can grind and save money now.
What would be your incentive to ever pay for anything again when you could just make whatever cards you wanted in this mode?
Don't get me wrong, as an avid creator of cards I'd love this. But it'd be ridiculous for Blizzard to allow you to create your own cards from a business standpoint.
As for gamemodes, that's just a custom games browser, which OW has already had for ages and which people have been asking for for Hearthstone for ages too, nothing special. I guess seeing this you could argue for a more creative custom games browser, but again, you couldn't let people touch individual cards.
If you don't want to spend money then you can play the game F2P. If you want to put in the work to script hundreds of cards then sure you can save money. Just like you can grind and save money now.
There's a difference between 'giving players the option to play the game for free, with the understanding they won't get all the content without a ridiculous amount of both time investment and skill' and 'giving the players all the content of the game, completely for free'.
It doesn't matter how long it takes to do - one person does it, and then they put it on the internet for everyone else to copy-paste into their game. Buh-bye, money!
What would be your incentive to ever pay for anything again when you could just make whatever cards you wanted in this mode?
Don't get me wrong, as an avid creator of cards I'd love this. But it'd be ridiculous for Blizzard to allow you to create your own cards from a business standpoint.
As for gamemodes, that's just a custom games browser, which OW has already had for ages and which people have been asking for for Hearthstone for ages too, nothing special. I guess seeing this you could argue for a more creative custom games browser, but again, you couldn't let people touch individual cards.
If you don't want to spend money then you can play the game F2P. If you want to put in the work to script hundreds of cards then sure you can save money. Just like you can grind and save money now.
There's a difference between 'giving players the option to play the game for free, with the understanding they won't get all the content without a ridiculous amount of both time investment and skill' and 'giving the players all the content of the game, completely for free'.
It doesn't matter how long it takes to do - one person does it, and then they put it on the internet for everyone else to copy-paste into their game. Buh-bye, money!
Figures this goes without saying but apparently not! They'd institute a prohibition against scripting cards that replicate existing cards. Buh-bye, straw man!
Figures this goes without saying but apparently not! They'd institute a prohibition against scripting cards that replicate existing cards. Buh-bye, straw man!
As I said, I would love something like this. I just genuinely don't understand how you don't see that allowing people to make their own cards completely destroys any and all point in collecting cards for the actual game.
Ban replicating existing cards? Make them all in different classes instead. Or just make them almost the same, but not quite. You don't even need to replicate the existing cards for people to never play with them again. You can use it to make entirely new expansions, for free, that you can then put online, for free, and people can put into their own game, for free. You implement this in the game, nobody ever plays the actual game again.
I'm not trying to be antagonistic here - as I said, a custom games browser with various rules variables, hell, even just a place to play all the existing Tavern Brawls whenever would be amazing. But allowing people to create their own cards and play with them in-game is ludicrous.
Figures this goes without saying but apparently not! They'd institute a prohibition against scripting cards that replicate existing cards. Buh-bye, straw man!
As I said, I would love something like this. I just genuinely don't understand how you don't see that allowing people to make their own cards completely destroys any and all point in collecting cards for the actual game.
Ban replicating existing cards? Make them all in different classes instead. Or just make them almost the same, but not quite. You don't even need to replicate the existing cards for people to never play with them again. You can use it to make entirely new expansions, for free, that you can then put online, for free, and people can put into their own game, for free. You implement this in the game, nobody ever plays the actual game again.
I'm not trying to be antagonistic here - as I said, a custom games browser with various rules variables, hell, even just a place to play all the existing Tavern Brawls whenever would be amazing. But allowing people to create their own cards and play with them in-game is ludicrous.
You don't seem to understand the collector's mindset. And hyperbolic statements like "You implement this in the game, nobody ever plays the actual game again" shows you don't seem to understand the card collector's mindset in particular. For example, people don't need to buy MtG cards technically. They could just print out the cards and have them and play with them. And yet MtG is still going strong. We see the same behavior with numerous other collectibles.
Woah, that's awesome. And it would be as well for Hearthstone. Unfortunately I had to immediately think about the fact that Overwatch is not F2P and you need to buy into it. That's the reason they can afford to do it. They already made money and additionally focus more on cosmetics. But just make it subscription based and it can work from a business perspective in Hearthstone. I would gladly spend like 10 € or so per month for this sort of thing. But of course who knows how many would consider spending money on such a feature. Realistically it might not be worth it for them. I think this game still has too many tryhards that wouldn't give a shit about custom games. But maybe one day... I really hope so.
It would be great, but I think that it's never going to happen. However, HearthStone and OverWatch are my 2 favorite games, and I like them both. I have played a lot of hearthstone, and recently I have moved to OverWatch. This is something new for me, and it's very interesting for me to play. At first, I was shocked by the difficulty of this game, but in a short time, I became a really good player. By the way, the ranked games are a real problem of this game. I had so bad teammates, that I have decided to use an Overwatch boost. It worked, and now I am playing only with high skilled players and enjoy the game.
Here's the video of the OW Workshop. Basically, its a scripting toolset allowing players to create custom Overwatch game modes and heros. Imagine if the Hearthstone team did this for us so that we could create custom Play modes and even custom cards??? :D
Too confusing for casual players (same thing for more deck slots)
Well this thing would be designed for hardcore players. Nobody who's like "Eh, I play Hearthstone sometimes during my free time" is ever gonna want to use this feature, but people who love hearthstone will use this feature. It would never work though, the coding would be a mess and the community isn't exactly appreciative of Blizzard.
What would be your incentive to ever pay for anything again when you could just make whatever cards you wanted in this mode?
Don't get me wrong, as an avid creator of cards I'd love this. But it'd be ridiculous for Blizzard to allow you to create your own cards from a business standpoint.
As for gamemodes, that's just a custom games browser, which OW has already had for ages and which people have been asking for for Hearthstone for ages too, nothing special. I guess seeing this you could argue for a more creative custom games browser, but again, you couldn't let people touch individual cards.
You can find me here! Good luck everyone!
In OW, Jeff Kaplan admitted that only "power users" would likely design anything because you'd need some understanding of scripting to make it work even with the toolset overlay.
bad for business my friend.
cause its all about that money money money ooohhh oohhhh gimme gimme gimme gimme ooh ohhh oooohh
If you don't want to spend money then you can play the game F2P. If you want to put in the work to script hundreds of cards then sure you can save money. Just like you can grind and save money now.
Would be cool. But I actually just hope, that Blizzard would release more gamemodes. Maybe a gamemode with a core set or something like that.
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There's a difference between 'giving players the option to play the game for free, with the understanding they won't get all the content without a ridiculous amount of both time investment and skill' and 'giving the players all the content of the game, completely for free'.
It doesn't matter how long it takes to do - one person does it, and then they put it on the internet for everyone else to copy-paste into their game. Buh-bye, money!
You can find me here! Good luck everyone!
Yah that could be cool. :)
Figures this goes without saying but apparently not! They'd institute a prohibition against scripting cards that replicate existing cards. Buh-bye, straw man!
As I said, I would love something like this. I just genuinely don't understand how you don't see that allowing people to make their own cards completely destroys any and all point in collecting cards for the actual game.
Ban replicating existing cards? Make them all in different classes instead. Or just make them almost the same, but not quite. You don't even need to replicate the existing cards for people to never play with them again. You can use it to make entirely new expansions, for free, that you can then put online, for free, and people can put into their own game, for free. You implement this in the game, nobody ever plays the actual game again.
I'm not trying to be antagonistic here - as I said, a custom games browser with various rules variables, hell, even just a place to play all the existing Tavern Brawls whenever would be amazing. But allowing people to create their own cards and play with them in-game is ludicrous.
You can find me here! Good luck everyone!
You don't seem to understand the collector's mindset. And hyperbolic statements like "You implement this in the game, nobody ever plays the actual game again" shows you don't seem to understand the card collector's mindset in particular. For example, people don't need to buy MtG cards technically. They could just print out the cards and have them and play with them. And yet MtG is still going strong. We see the same behavior with numerous other collectibles.
Woah, that's awesome. And it would be as well for Hearthstone. Unfortunately I had to immediately think about the fact that Overwatch is not F2P and you need to buy into it. That's the reason they can afford to do it. They already made money and additionally focus more on cosmetics. But just make it subscription based and it can work from a business perspective in Hearthstone. I would gladly spend like 10 € or so per month for this sort of thing. But of course who knows how many would consider spending money on such a feature. Realistically it might not be worth it for them. I think this game still has too many tryhards that wouldn't give a shit about custom games. But maybe one day... I really hope so.
It would be great, but I think that it's never going to happen. However, HearthStone and OverWatch are my 2 favorite games, and I like them both. I have played a lot of hearthstone, and recently I have moved to OverWatch. This is something new for me, and it's very interesting for me to play. At first, I was shocked by the difficulty of this game, but in a short time, I became a really good player. By the way, the ranked games are a real problem of this game. I had so bad teammates, that I have decided to use an Overwatch boost. It worked, and now I am playing only with high skilled players and enjoy the game.
They havent solved the deck slot problem yet man.
Or just being able to ban 3 randomly drafted cards of your Opponent at the Mulligan screen.