So i was trying to make a Mecha'thun Priest and to my surprise Reckless Experimenter -> Voodoo Doll -> Mechathun doesn't work? I assumed the voodoo doll would kill off the experimenter and then mechathun would trigger.
did you target mechathun first or experimenter first? that would determine the order of operations and mechathun would trigger before experimenter and that doll have had a chance to die yet.
it doesnt work, all the action happen at the same time. i.e. all happen at end of turn. so all alive when mechachtun dies.
but if you reckless, vodoo targeting reckless, mechachtun. then kill the vodoo (kills the reckless) and end turn the combo works.
Shouldn't the deathrattles theoretically still trigger in order though?
The old combo was Reckless -> Coffin Crasher (pulls mechathun) -> Ticking Abom -> Ticking Abom. If those all happen at the same time it wouldn't work either, right? Those happen specifically in order.
Deathrattles trigger in order of play. The issue is that the effect of the deathrattle of voodo doll is carried out after the deathrattle of mechathun checks whether the condition for winning the game is fulfilled.
I.e. you play Reckless Experimenter , you play Voodoo Doll , targeting Reckless and then you play Mecha'thun (which was reduced twice from Galvanizer ). You have no cards in hand and in the deck and you press the end turn button.
Reckless Experimenter's effect will trigger (it was played first but it is anyway the only end of turn trigger) killing Voodoo doll and Mecha'thun in that order. And then the Deathrattle effects are checked, so Voodoo doll kills Reckless, but the actual death of reckless is delayed until Voodoo doll is removed from the game. However, now Mecha'thun checks for his deathrattle at which time Reckless is still on the board. So Mechathun's deathrattle doesn't trigger. Voodoo doll and Mechathun are removed. And just then, Reckless Experimenter is also removed.
So i was trying to make a Mecha'thun Priest and to my surprise Reckless Experimenter -> Voodoo Doll -> Mechathun doesn't work? I assumed the voodoo doll would kill off the experimenter and then mechathun would trigger.
Did you play mecathun or doll first? It might friend on the order.
sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken
Played doll first
did you target mechathun first or experimenter first? that would determine the order of operations and mechathun would trigger before experimenter and that doll have had a chance to die yet.
it doesnt work, all the action happen at the same time. i.e. all happen at end of turn. so all alive when mechachtun dies.
but if you reckless, vodoo targeting reckless, mechachtun. then kill the vodoo (kills the reckless) and end turn the combo works.
Shouldn't the deathrattles theoretically still trigger in order though?
The old combo was Reckless -> Coffin Crasher (pulls mechathun) -> Ticking Abom -> Ticking Abom. If those all happen at the same time it wouldn't work either, right? Those happen specifically in order.
Deathrattles trigger in order of play. The issue is that the effect of the deathrattle of voodo doll is carried out after the deathrattle of mechathun checks whether the condition for winning the game is fulfilled.
"Deathrattles and death-related effects take place after damage has been exchanged and minions/weapons have been destroyed and removed from the board."
I.e. you play Reckless Experimenter , you play Voodoo Doll , targeting Reckless and then you play Mecha'thun (which was reduced twice from Galvanizer ). You have no cards in hand and in the deck and you press the end turn button.
Reckless Experimenter's effect will trigger (it was played first but it is anyway the only end of turn trigger) killing Voodoo doll and Mecha'thun in that order. And then the Deathrattle effects are checked, so Voodoo doll kills Reckless, but the actual death of reckless is delayed until Voodoo doll is removed from the game. However, now Mecha'thun checks for his deathrattle at which time Reckless is still on the board. So Mechathun's deathrattle doesn't trigger. Voodoo doll and Mechathun are removed. And just then, Reckless Experimenter is also removed.
yep. so you need to kill vodoo before the end of turn to get the combo to work
heres a link to an d version i play pre
https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1233169-control-mechathun-using-spirit-of-the-dead