I've waited since the beginning of the expansion with my 6.5k dust. What decks are looking good for [paladin, mage, rogue, druid]? Are there any reliable net decks that are worth crafting yet? Any specific legendaries?
I've been out of the loop and I'm wondering what your insight is!
zilliax is tier 1 when it comes to crafting of all legendary cards in the game. I would craft blastmaster boom since it is a very good card and bomb warrior will only get better as more control cards are added for warrior through the next 6 expansions. Tbh I would not craft anything yet as it is been barely a week if you have to little dust wait at least a week more. I am playing mech paladin right now and I am a rank 2 player bet deck I have tried so far.
Well I'd be damned if I didn't have Zilliax by now haha. I was asking more in regards to the new expansion! And the only reason I hesitate towards crafting boom is because the entire deck itself costs 7k, and the card can only be used with bomb support (future archetypes might not support it). Mech paladin though, interesting. The net-deck looks a bit clunky IMO. What variant are you using?
zilliax is tier 1 when it comes to crafting of all legendary cards in the game. I would craft blastmaster boom since it is a very good card and bomb warrior will only get better as more control cards are added for warrior through the next 6 expansions. Tbh I would not craft anything yet as it is been barely a week if you have to little dust wait at least a week more. I am playing mech paladin right now and I am a rank 2 player bet deck I have tried so far.
Well I'd be damned if I didn't have Zilliax by now haha. I was asking more in regards to the new expansion! And the only reason I hesitate towards crafting boom is because the entire deck itself costs 7k, and the card can only be used with bomb support (future archetypes might not support it). Mech paladin though, interesting. The net-deck looks a bit clunky IMO. What variant are you using?
I used to be playing with mechano egg , and then I saw the version in hs replay without and it is completly devastating against a lot of decks. It is surprising good against agro decks because the secrets and the new cards that synergize with it are bonkers. The mech whelp is crazy against warriors, if you dont have contess ashmore for the deck do not craft it its not really worth it but zilliax , rhysa and tirion are very good in it. Rhysa will sometimes win the game by herself in turn 4. Harrison jones is really good for suppercolliders and I consider it a most since you run out of cards pretty quickly if you dont have it its fine but its a great card in the deck even against rogue who save their 1/2 weapon its a quick 5 mana draw 2 and play a 5/4.
### Custom Paladin # Class: Paladin # Format: Standard # Year of the Dragon # # 1x (1) Autodefense Matrix # 2x (1) Never Surrender! # 1x (1) Noble Sacrifice # 2x (1) Redemption # 2x (2) Mysterious Blade # 2x (2) Sunreaver Spy # 2x (3) Aldor Peacekeeper # 1x (3) Commander Rhyssa # 2x (4) Annoy-o-Module # 2x (4) Bellringer Sentry # 2x (4) Blessing of Kings # 2x (4) Consecration # 1x (5) Harrison Jones # 2x (5) Wargear # 1x (5) Zilliax # 2x (6) Mechanical Whelp # 1x (7) Countess Ashmore # 1x (7) Kangor's Endless Army # 1x (8) Tirion Fordring # AAECAZ8FCMgE+gaQB5vwAtj+AvH+AqCAA5SaAwuMAdwDrwePCa3yArT2AuH+AsyBA76YA46aA5CaAwA= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
The top decks are Lackey Rogue, Token Druid, and Control Warrior.
Lackey rogue is insane and probably in need of a nerf. It's favored against most things and only even with a couple things, only unfavored against control warrior. Nothing too expensive in it, Tog isn't even necessary in the aggressive version.
Token Druid is the nuts. Very few bad matchups. Even with control warrior and tempo rogue. Fun to play if you like token bois.
Control warrior is good because it is the only thing that beats Rogue and so many people play Rogue. This deck actually has counter decks but its still good and is pretty much the only control deck.
Of the classes you listed, other than the mentioned Rogue and Druid decks, Conjurer/Dragon Mage is pretty good and really fun to play. It crushes slow decks but losses to aggro. Mech pally is pretty strong too. Beats warrior and much better against aggro than the mage deck.
The top decks are Lackey Rogue, Token Druid, and Control Warrior.
Lackey rogue is insane and probably in need of a nerf. It's favored against most things and only even with a couple things, only unfavored against control warrior. Nothing too expensive in it, Tog isn't even necessary in the aggressive version.
Token Druid is the nuts. Very few bad matchups. Even with control warrior and tempo rogue. Fun to play if you like token bois.
Control warrior is good because it is the only thing that beats Rogue and so many people play Rogue. This deck actually has counter decks but its still good and is pretty much the only control deck.
Of the classes you listed, other than the mentioned Rogue and Druid decks, Conjurer/Dragon Mage is pretty good and really fun to play. It crushes slow decks but losses to aggro. Mech pally is pretty strong too. Beats warrior and much better against aggro than the mage deck.
actually, according to hs replay there are only two tier 1 decks right now , toker and mech paladin.
Token druid, tempo rogue, carpet zoo and murloc shaman for your more aggressive decks.
You have mech paladin, mid range hunter, a few mid range shaman decks including a sleeper elemental overload mid range deck. Theres a few mid range druid decks as well that are great. Then you have bomb hunter thats good for countering control decks as well (mid hunter does alright as well vs them and is really cheap at just 1 legendary and 2 epics. the rest is mostly commons)
Then control warrior is the best control deck right now. it's very much a fatigue deck though and it's a lot of sitting around. It can out fatigue all the other slow decks though.
control shaman is really good as well I reckon, but you need to dig deeper to find a decent version as the main versions are pretty bad. I had to build one totally different to the one on the sites. it ended up being an aggro killer, but the other control decks beat up on. still quite cheap though and good if you want to beat up on the top dog aggressive decks.
(I've also been beating control warriors, despite everyone saying it wouldn't happen. if they don't manage to fatigue you, you can usually find an opening in the late game to pummel them pretty well. not had a lot of games with the deck though, I'm expecting to loose to these decks, it's just not happened yet)
there's some more niche stuff like dragon paladin, handlock and nomi priest as well though that's worth looking at.
TBH most stuff is safe IMO at this point. theres a great selection of strong decks, as long as combo isn't your poison.. then you're shit out of luck.
The top decks are Lackey Rogue, Token Druid, and Control Warrior.
Lackey rogue is insane and probably in need of a nerf. It's favored against most things and only even with a couple things, only unfavored against control warrior. Nothing too expensive in it, Tog isn't even necessary in the aggressive version.
Token Druid is the nuts. Very few bad matchups. Even with control warrior and tempo rogue. Fun to play if you like token bois.
Control warrior is good because it is the only thing that beats Rogue and so many people play Rogue. This deck actually has counter decks but its still good and is pretty much the only control deck.
Of the classes you listed, other than the mentioned Rogue and Druid decks, Conjurer/Dragon Mage is pretty good and really fun to play. It crushes slow decks but losses to aggro. Mech pally is pretty strong too. Beats warrior and much better against aggro than the mage deck.
actually, according to hs replay there are only two tier 1 decks right now , toker and mech paladin.
Those are overall stats for the whole week of the expansion.
The top decks are Lackey Rogue, Token Druid, and Control Warrior.
Lackey rogue is insane and probably in need of a nerf. It's favored against most things and only even with a couple things, only unfavored against control warrior. Nothing too expensive in it, Tog isn't even necessary in the aggressive version.
Token Druid is the nuts. Very few bad matchups. Even with control warrior and tempo rogue. Fun to play if you like token bois.
Control warrior is good because it is the only thing that beats Rogue and so many people play Rogue. This deck actually has counter decks but its still good and is pretty much the only control deck.
Of the classes you listed, other than the mentioned Rogue and Druid decks, Conjurer/Dragon Mage is pretty good and really fun to play. It crushes slow decks but losses to aggro. Mech pally is pretty strong too. Beats warrior and much better against aggro than the mage deck.
actually, according to hs replay there are only two tier 1 decks right now , toker and mech paladin.
my elemental control shaman absolutely spanks rogue as well. has about 67% winrate Vs. (TBH all the aggressive decks die to it. only the more late game orientated control decks can beat it regularly)
The top decks are Lackey Rogue, Token Druid, and Control Warrior.
Lackey rogue is insane and probably in need of a nerf. It's favored against most things and only even with a couple things, only unfavored against control warrior. Nothing too expensive in it, Tog isn't even necessary in the aggressive version.
Token Druid is the nuts. Very few bad matchups. Even with control warrior and tempo rogue. Fun to play if you like token bois.
Control warrior is good because it is the only thing that beats Rogue and so many people play Rogue. This deck actually has counter decks but its still good and is pretty much the only control deck.
Of the classes you listed, other than the mentioned Rogue and Druid decks, Conjurer/Dragon Mage is pretty good and really fun to play. It crushes slow decks but losses to aggro. Mech pally is pretty strong too. Beats warrior and much better against aggro than the mage deck.
actually, according to hs replay there are only two tier 1 decks right now , toker and mech paladin.
Those are overall stats for the whole week of the expansion.
yes I understand what you mean but does not mean they are the best right now, when the witchwood came out the best deck was odd hunter and after a week it was tier 40 because of how bad it was. Right now the tier 1 decks are mech pally and token , go to hsreplays.com to check for yourself. Bomb warrior and tempo rogue are tier 2.
I beat EVERYONE with fatigue shaman. Control shaman is the beast in this meta. Great board clears, strongest late game with alysiana + shudder combo as well as new 8 mana elementals. Great removaks in form of hex and other spells. Basically infinite value and great board control.
The top decks are Lackey Rogue, Token Druid, and Control Warrior.
Lackey rogue is insane and probably in need of a nerf. It's favored against most things and only even with a couple things, only unfavored against control warrior. Nothing too expensive in it, Tog isn't even necessary in the aggressive version.
Token Druid is the nuts. Very few bad matchups. Even with control warrior and tempo rogue. Fun to play if you like token bois.
Control warrior is good because it is the only thing that beats Rogue and so many people play Rogue. This deck actually has counter decks but its still good and is pretty much the only control deck.
Of the classes you listed, other than the mentioned Rogue and Druid decks, Conjurer/Dragon Mage is pretty good and really fun to play. It crushes slow decks but losses to aggro. Mech pally is pretty strong too. Beats warrior and much better against aggro than the mage deck.
actually, according to hs replay there are only two tier 1 decks right now , toker and mech paladin.
Those are overall stats for the whole week of the expansion.
yes I understand what you mean but does not mean they are the best right now, when the witchwood came out the best deck was odd hunter and after a week it was tier 40 because of how bad it was. Right now the tier 1 decks are mech pally and token , go to hsreplays.com to check for yourself. Bomb warrior and tempo rogue are tier 2.
huh? vicioussyndicate had odd hunter as tier 4 after it's first report of the witchwood meta. Maybe it was higher up on hsreplay during the first couple days. VS's tier 1 decks from their first report were Spiteful Druid, Cubelock, Even paladin, quest rogue, etc. the decks that were actually good in that meta and got nerfed.
You're telling me you can't go by stats but then telling me to go to hsreplays overall rankings from the expansion which includes first day unrefined list data. The decks I listed are the ones that are tier1 at legend. if you have hsreplay premium it should reflect this.
I beat EVERYONE with fatigue shaman. Control shaman is the beast in this meta. Great board clears, strongest late game with alysiana + shudder combo as well as new 8 mana elementals. Great removaks in form of hex and other spells. Basically infinite value and great board control.
I LOVE IT!
I don't have shudder or alysiana yet, but I'm playing a control shaman with less flash and it's still doing great. will be awesome when I get the rest of the bits though to go full hog on the end game stuff. right now I just pick on aggro decks with it. ha ha. still have beaten control warriors though with it (despite being told it was "impossible" by warrior players, ha ha)
Do you baleful the aylsiana or no need to, also you running the barista? I'm running a barista murloc deck that's pretty funky.
The top decks are Lackey Rogue, Token Druid, and Control Warrior.
Lackey rogue is insane and probably in need of a nerf. It's favored against most things and only even with a couple things, only unfavored against control warrior. Nothing too expensive in it, Tog isn't even necessary in the aggressive version.
Token Druid is the nuts. Very few bad matchups. Even with control warrior and tempo rogue. Fun to play if you like token bois.
Control warrior is good because it is the only thing that beats Rogue and so many people play Rogue. This deck actually has counter decks but its still good and is pretty much the only control deck.
Of the classes you listed, other than the mentioned Rogue and Druid decks, Conjurer/Dragon Mage is pretty good and really fun to play. It crushes slow decks but losses to aggro. Mech pally is pretty strong too. Beats warrior and much better against aggro than the mage deck.
actually, according to hs replay there are only two tier 1 decks right now , toker and mech paladin.
Those are overall stats for the whole week of the expansion.
yes I understand what you mean but does not mean they are the best right now, when the witchwood came out the best deck was odd hunter and after a week it was tier 40 because of how bad it was. Right now the tier 1 decks are mech pally and token , go to hsreplays.com to check for yourself. Bomb warrior and tempo rogue are tier 2.
huh? vicioussyndicate had odd hunter as tier 4 after it's first report of the witchwood meta. Maybe it was higher up on hsreplay during the first couple days. VS's tier 1 decks from their first report were Spiteful Druid, Cubelock, Even paladin, quest rogue, etc. the decks that were actually good in that meta and got nerfed.
You're telling me you can't go by stats but then telling me to go to hsreplays overall rankings from the expansion which includes first day unrefined list data. The decks I listed are the ones that are tier1 at legend. if you have hsreplay premium it should reflect this.
my dude relax no reason to get agitated, just two chill hs players talking about the game so let cool it down a bit. Hs replay which is what most pros use ( not calling myself a pro by all means) . Most YouTubers base themselves on HS replay, just watch kripps last video . I am basing myself on what I think is more reliable and HS replays puts mech and token tier 1 , if you want to argue about it sure but I trust more a page I have been using for literally years, been playing since beta and I am a legend player ( currently rank 2) I find hs replay more reliable than the web you listed, of course you can argue this and I completely understand you have your opinion and I have mine that is it.
I used to be playing with mechano egg , and then I saw the version in hs replay without and it is completly devastating against a lot of decks. It is surprising good against agro decks because the secrets and the new cards that synergize with it are bonkers. The mech whelp is crazy against warriors, if you dont have contess ashmore for the deck do not craft it its not really worth it but zilliax , rhysa and tirion are very good in it. Rhysa will sometimes win the game by herself in turn 4. Harrison jones is really good for suppercolliders and I consider it a most since you run out of cards pretty quickly if you dont have it its fine but its a great card in the deck even against rogue who save their 1/2 weapon its a quick 5 mana draw 2 and play a 5/4.
### Custom Paladin # Class: Paladin # Format: Standard # Year of the Dragon # # 1x (1) Autodefense Matrix # 2x (1) Never Surrender! # 1x (1) Noble Sacrifice # 2x (1) Redemption # 2x (2) Mysterious Blade # 2x (2) Sunreaver Spy # 2x (3) Aldor Peacekeeper # 1x (3) Commander Rhyssa # 2x (4) Annoy-o-Module # 2x (4) Bellringer Sentry # 2x (4) Blessing of Kings # 2x (4) Consecration # 1x (5) Harrison Jones # 2x (5) Wargear # 1x (5) Zilliax # 2x (6) Mechanical Whelp # 1x (7) Countess Ashmore # 1x (7) Kangor's Endless Army # 1x (8) Tirion Fordring # AAECAZ8FCMgE+gaQB5vwAtj+AvH+AqCAA5SaAwuMAdwDrwePCa3yArT2AuH+AsyBA76YA46aA5CaAwA= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
I just wanted to know, how important is Kangors Endless Army in this deck. I suppose you can not realy play the deck without it.
When crafting in the new meta, my first crafts are always neutrals over class cards because if somehow the class gets 0 support,you literally just lost 1600 dust. (or 3200 if you're greedy like me and you want the bling). Neutrals can be used in any deck, no matter the class you choose to play. Out of the neutrals right now, i think Elysiana is the safest craft. If it doesnt see enough play right now, she's generally a great card to have. If you're more of a tempo/aggro deck player yourself i wouldnt recommend her since it's usually used in control decks .
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I've waited since the beginning of the expansion with my 6.5k dust. What decks are looking good for [paladin, mage, rogue, druid]? Are there any reliable net decks that are worth crafting yet? Any specific legendaries?
I've been out of the loop and I'm wondering what your insight is!
Thanks :)
Can't go wrong with Token Druid. Plus it is not too much of a drain on the dust reserves.
Control Warrior, Tempo Rogue - those will probably stick for a while. Token Druid, unless we get some nerfs, or something pops up that counters it.
Zoolock is viable and cheap, some run Archvillain Rafaam, but he's not mandatory.
Those mech decks are cool, but Hunter can be expensive to craft and it's hard to say if it's going to be viable in the long run.
I've no clue what I'm doing...
zilliax is tier 1 when it comes to crafting of all legendary cards in the game. I would craft blastmaster boom since it is a very good card and bomb warrior will only get better as more control cards are added for warrior through the next 6 expansions. Tbh I would not craft anything yet as it is been barely a week if you have to little dust wait at least a week more. I am playing mech paladin right now and I am a rank 2 player bet deck I have tried so far.
Well I'd be damned if I didn't have Zilliax by now haha. I was asking more in regards to the new expansion! And the only reason I hesitate towards crafting boom is because the entire deck itself costs 7k, and the card can only be used with bomb support (future archetypes might not support it). Mech paladin though, interesting. The net-deck looks a bit clunky IMO. What variant are you using?
Well I'd be damned if I didn't have Zilliax by now haha. I was asking more in regards to the new expansion! And the only reason I hesitate towards crafting boom is because the entire deck itself costs 7k, and the card can only be used with bomb support (future archetypes might not support it). Mech paladin though, interesting. The net-deck looks a bit clunky IMO. What variant are you using?
I used to be playing with mechano egg , and then I saw the version in hs replay without and it is completly devastating against a lot of decks. It is surprising good against agro decks because the secrets and the new cards that synergize with it are bonkers. The mech whelp is crazy against warriors, if you dont have contess ashmore for the deck do not craft it its not really worth it but zilliax , rhysa and tirion are very good in it. Rhysa will sometimes win the game by herself in turn 4. Harrison jones is really good for suppercolliders and I consider it a most since you run out of cards pretty quickly if you dont have it its fine but its a great card in the deck even against rogue who save their 1/2 weapon its a quick 5 mana draw 2 and play a 5/4.
### Custom Paladin
# Class: Paladin
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 1x (1) Autodefense Matrix
# 2x (1) Never Surrender!
# 1x (1) Noble Sacrifice
# 2x (1) Redemption
# 2x (2) Mysterious Blade
# 2x (2) Sunreaver Spy
# 2x (3) Aldor Peacekeeper
# 1x (3) Commander Rhyssa
# 2x (4) Annoy-o-Module
# 2x (4) Bellringer Sentry
# 2x (4) Blessing of Kings
# 2x (4) Consecration
# 1x (5) Harrison Jones
# 2x (5) Wargear
# 1x (5) Zilliax
# 2x (6) Mechanical Whelp
# 1x (7) Countess Ashmore
# 1x (7) Kangor's Endless Army
# 1x (8) Tirion Fordring
#
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
The top decks are Lackey Rogue, Token Druid, and Control Warrior.
Lackey rogue is insane and probably in need of a nerf. It's favored against most things and only even with a couple things, only unfavored against control warrior. Nothing too expensive in it, Tog isn't even necessary in the aggressive version.
Token Druid is the nuts. Very few bad matchups. Even with control warrior and tempo rogue. Fun to play if you like token bois.
Control warrior is good because it is the only thing that beats Rogue and so many people play Rogue. This deck actually has counter decks but its still good and is pretty much the only control deck.
Of the classes you listed, other than the mentioned Rogue and Druid decks, Conjurer/Dragon Mage is pretty good and really fun to play. It crushes slow decks but losses to aggro. Mech pally is pretty strong too. Beats warrior and much better against aggro than the mage deck.
actually, according to hs replay there are only two tier 1 decks right now , toker and mech paladin.
Token druid, tempo rogue, carpet zoo and murloc shaman for your more aggressive decks.
You have mech paladin, mid range hunter, a few mid range shaman decks including a sleeper elemental overload mid range deck. Theres a few mid range druid decks as well that are great. Then you have bomb hunter thats good for countering control decks as well (mid hunter does alright as well vs them and is really cheap at just 1 legendary and 2 epics. the rest is mostly commons)
Then control warrior is the best control deck right now. it's very much a fatigue deck though and it's a lot of sitting around. It can out fatigue all the other slow decks though.
control shaman is really good as well I reckon, but you need to dig deeper to find a decent version as the main versions are pretty bad. I had to build one totally different to the one on the sites. it ended up being an aggro killer, but the other control decks beat up on. still quite cheap though and good if you want to beat up on the top dog aggressive decks.
(I've also been beating control warriors, despite everyone saying it wouldn't happen. if they don't manage to fatigue you, you can usually find an opening in the late game to pummel them pretty well. not had a lot of games with the deck though, I'm expecting to loose to these decks, it's just not happened yet)
there's some more niche stuff like dragon paladin, handlock and nomi priest as well though that's worth looking at.
TBH most stuff is safe IMO at this point. theres a great selection of strong decks, as long as combo isn't your poison.. then you're shit out of luck.
Those are overall stats for the whole week of the expansion.
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/drr/vs-power-rankings-data-reaper-report/
my elemental control shaman absolutely spanks rogue as well. has about 67% winrate Vs. (TBH all the aggressive decks die to it. only the more late game orientated control decks can beat it regularly)
yes I understand what you mean but does not mean they are the best right now, when the witchwood came out the best deck was odd hunter and after a week it was tier 40 because of how bad it was. Right now the tier 1 decks are mech pally and token , go to hsreplays.com to check for yourself. Bomb warrior and tempo rogue are tier 2.
I beat EVERYONE with fatigue shaman. Control shaman is the beast in this meta. Great board clears, strongest late game with alysiana + shudder combo as well as new 8 mana elementals. Great removaks in form of hex and other spells. Basically infinite value and great board control.
I LOVE IT!
huh? vicioussyndicate had odd hunter as tier 4 after it's first report of the witchwood meta. Maybe it was higher up on hsreplay during the first couple days. VS's tier 1 decks from their first report were Spiteful Druid, Cubelock, Even paladin, quest rogue, etc. the decks that were actually good in that meta and got nerfed.
You're telling me you can't go by stats but then telling me to go to hsreplays overall rankings from the expansion which includes first day unrefined list data. The decks I listed are the ones that are tier1 at legend. if you have hsreplay premium it should reflect this.
I don't have shudder or alysiana yet, but I'm playing a control shaman with less flash and it's still doing great. will be awesome when I get the rest of the bits though to go full hog on the end game stuff. right now I just pick on aggro decks with it. ha ha. still have beaten control warriors though with it (despite being told it was "impossible" by warrior players, ha ha)
Do you baleful the aylsiana or no need to, also you running the barista? I'm running a barista murloc deck that's pretty funky.
my dude relax no reason to get agitated, just two chill hs players talking about the game so let cool it down a bit. Hs replay which is what most pros use ( not calling myself a pro by all means) . Most YouTubers base themselves on HS replay, just watch kripps last video . I am basing myself on what I think is more reliable and HS replays puts mech and token tier 1 , if you want to argue about it sure but I trust more a page I have been using for literally years, been playing since beta and I am a legend player ( currently rank 2) I find hs replay more reliable than the web you listed, of course you can argue this and I completely understand you have your opinion and I have mine that is it.
I just wanter to know, how important is Kangors Endless Army in this deck. I suppose you can not realy play the deck without it.
I just wanted to know, how important is Kangors Endless Army in this deck. I suppose you can not realy play the deck without it.
When crafting in the new meta, my first crafts are always neutrals over class cards because if somehow the class gets 0 support,you literally just lost 1600 dust. (or 3200 if you're greedy like me and you want the bling). Neutrals can be used in any deck, no matter the class you choose to play. Out of the neutrals right now, i think Elysiana is the safest craft. If it doesnt see enough play right now, she's generally a great card to have. If you're more of a tempo/aggro deck player yourself i wouldnt recommend her since it's usually used in control decks .