Lord Godfrey: this is good i give you that. Bliz realize you need a way to comeback as Warlock so you can play Hir'eek, the Bat on turn 8, then concede
Glinda Crowskin: you can play 4 imps with this one, on turn 10!
While I disagree with some of your analysis it was presented in a manor that made me laugh and for that you get point sir lol.
Personally I made golden Rafaan day one because a hand and deck full of sexy golden legendaries is just pure fun. The card is actually really good if you use it properly. In a control v Control matchup your removal is largly useless...but if you turn it into legendaries odds are you're gonna get some good stuff. One game he gave me Talanji and I got a board full of minions next turn. Insta-concede from my opponent. In a zoo deck he can give you staying power when your tiny minions start to lose their value. Of all of the legendaries he's the safest craft because you can put him in any Warlock deck and it'll fulfill a good roll.
I opened a Golden Betrug the other day but haven't used him yet. I have heard he combos well with Plot twist but haven't tried it yet.
Soularium is really good in a zoo deck. You're not likely to run him in a deck with Godfrey.
I've won a few gmes with Hir'eek but I 100% agree he's a meme card without more reliable ways to buff him.
High priestess is a solid 4 drop even without her discard synergy
Jaraxxus has his uses, even at higher ranks depending on your opponent. He was my first ever legendary so I dare not talk shit on him. I wish he was 8 mana though instead of 9 mana.
I don't have Morrigan or Glinda so I won't comment on them
Zoolock is decent and runs both The Soularium and Arch-Villain Rafaam. If you are looking for a control oriented deck, at least right now warlock isn't looking great
That being said, you don't necessarily need the best class legendaries to make a good deck. Token Druid right now is arguably the best deck and only runs Keeper Stalladris as a class legendary. Tempo Rogue has Edwin VanCleef. Murloc Shaman only needs Scargil (some decks do run Swampqueen Hagatha and/or Hagatha the Witch).
Basically there are plenty of neutral legendaries to use, and even then, you don't need to fill a deck with legendaries - most decks generally only use 1-3, unless you are playing paladin or warrior lol
Rafaam is amazing I think TBH. sure sometimes you will gimp yourself, but then in those situations where the cards you get back do prevent a victory, you'd probably already lost anyway. (I'm referring to carpet zoo btw when I talk about rafaam and soularium)
Most of the time it lets you close out games that you might have struggled more on or not won at all.
I guess only time will tell though.
Also Soularium has been good in zoo decks since it was released. It's performing very well for me in the new zoo decks. Admittedly I crafted it at the start of boomsday and have barely used it up until now, but I can really see how good the card is in this current zoo deck I'm playing.
I love Glinda. I have made some pretty cool decks with her that were at least semi-viable. definitely not a competitive card for the most part.
She works best in conjunction with the portals and meta wagon though. There are ways to get out free minions or at least very cheap ones with her.
filling a board full of 7/7 taunts is pretty sweet.
Ah I actually miss those meat wagon/glinda/portal/giant decks around witchwood.
I don't know if there's much can be done with her at the minute, but I'd never count Glinda out, there's always a deck made with her, some better than others, but if you want a more fun, meme style deck then she will never disappoint.
i made dis to experiment with betrug, its rly nice when it works - Archmage Vargoth recasting Plot Twist. But i can tell you this: the combo wont make legend anytime soon, its so unreliable even with few cards left in deck. p.S.: even won some games with Jaraxxus, Eredar Lord of the burning Legion (in casual).
On Glinda Crowskin: even with meat wagon and portals (i tried it) it was ridiculous easy to beat. Currently there is no way to make a portal stick. The surprise meatwagon was always a good prestige though.
On High Priestess Jeklik: While lakkari Saccrifice was in standard you could at least build a funny tier 5 deck and have a laugh after humilating someone with your 3/2 imps, but now? theres no way anyone put this in to just drop it on curve, sry bro ;)
On Arch-Villain Rafaam; i got to play this guy maybe 20-30 times. i tell you a little story. I got Talanji once. After dropping Rafaam i had 3 mana left (turn 10), and had the priest legendary Lazul on hand so i dropped this. Of course i see Brawl in enemy hand. I proceeded to drop 2 Millhouse Manastorm the turn after and then the concede button. This card is more like a last ditch effort when you realize all hope is lost anyway.
i made dis to experiment with betrug, its rly nice when it works - Archmage Vargoth recasting Plot Twist. But i can tell you this: the combo wont make legend anytime soon, its so unreliable even with few cards left in deck. p.S.: even won some games with Jaraxxus, Eredar Lord of the burning Legion (in casual).
On Glinda Crowskin: even with meat wagon and portals (i tried it) it was ridiculous easy to beat. Currently there is no way to make a portal stick. The surprise meatwagon was always a good prestige though.
On High Priestess Jeklik: While lakkari Saccrifice was in standard you could at least build a funny tier 5 deck and have a laugh after humilating someone with your 3/2 imps, but now? theres no way anyone put this in to just drop it on curve, sry bro ;)
On Arch-Villain Rafaam; i got to play this guy maybe 20-30 times. i tell you a little story. I got Talanji once. After dropping Rafaam i had 3 mana left (turn 10), and had the priest legendary Lazul on hand so i dropped this. Of course i see Brawl in enemy hand. I proceeded to drop 2 Millhouse Manastorm the turn after and then the concede button. This card is more like a last ditch effort when you realize all hope is lost anyway.
Yeah I mean rafaam is a total random card so I can see it going really bad sometimes. for me so far though it's been pretty decent, and it makes the deck pretty exciting too.
Sometimes just putting down that 8/8 taunt can win you a game though if you had board. it can take a lot to trade down an 8/8 without any solid removal.
I need to try out the imp zoo as well. there's one on here I can't find any stats on so far, but the people that have played it have said it's great. if this one turns out to be my favourite I may not even use rafaam as this deck doesn't need him at all. for the carpet zoo though I think rafaam really fits in well there.
ok you got me convinced, i try to make Hir'eek work. Maybe with the schemes, Demonbolts and that Totem Thing from rastakhans Rumble which buffs your guys.
Arch-Villain Rafaam: funny but does not work, not even against bomb stuff HUH this changes the bombs into legendaries How can u say this doesn't work LOL
Arch-Villain Rafaam: funny but does not work, not even against bomb stuff HUH this changes the bombs into legendaries How can u say this doesn't work LOL
Look dude, you aint going to beat any decent warrior with random legendarys, they play Dr.Boom and u are stuck with Loremaster Cho and his friends. Nearly any Legendary minion requires some build around (spells, draw, buff whatever) and your Gruul gets oneshot by the mech formerly known as Omega defender.
if its Bomb Control you lost right away, if your opponen has a more aggressive List and u managed to drop Rafaam after he put 8 or so bombs in your deck and your still alive good for you, now you can pray for some Rafaam highroll.
I hereby apologice sincerely to you Sir for calling you memelord. You did carry me to rank 5 with an astounishing 86% winrate from rank 7, only failing me once against an evildoing rogue and his pansy miscreants.
I will, from now on, always praise your funky hornes and never talk bad about the pimpstick you call an axe.
I don't think a deck built AROUND Glinda Crowskin would be good, like the Summoning Portal one. I really like her in my zoolock though, especially now that lackeys are a thing. I don't have Rafaam so I'm using her. 7 Health is nothing to sneeze at if you just drop her on turn 6. She'll either bait out the big removal, or survive. Or if you have a Carpet out too they might get rid of that thinking it's more threatening than she is.
I've gotten 3+ Sea Giants with her plenty of times, and she's GREAT with most of the lackeys. I love that with Witchy Lackeys, you can basically have an Unstable Evolution turn. Or reload your entire hand with spells with Ethereal Lackey. Or machine gun your opponent with a bunch of Kobold Lackeys.
I've been running a Portal Warlock with multiple Warlock Legendaries including Dr. Morrigan, Fel Lord Betrug, New Rafaam, and Godfrey. Dr. Morrigan works quite well with Betrug + Portal, often allowing you to get something else like Hakkar from your deck (without it dying at the end of turn). Unfortunately, it sometimes grabs Rafaam, so I need to also run Elysiana for lategame.
I don't think a deck built AROUND Glinda Crowskin would be good, like the Summoning Portal one. I really like her in my zoolock though, especially now that lackeys are a thing. I don't have Rafaam so I'm using her. 7 Health is nothing to sneeze at if you just drop her on turn 6. She'll either bait out the big removal, or survive. Or if you have a Carpet out too they might get rid of that thinking it's more threatening than she is.
I've gotten 3+ Sea Giants with her plenty of times, and she's GREAT with most of the lackeys. I love that with Witchy Lackeys, you can basically have an Unstable Evolution turn. Or reload your entire hand with spells with Ethereal Lackey. Or machine gun your opponent with a bunch of Kobold Lackeys.
yeah the sea giant one is a nice addition to a Zoo List i can see that. I put her in my Hir'eek, the Bat list trying to do the same stuff :D
Just 2 Minutes ago i got 0 mana Shirvallah, the Tiger with Glinda Crowskin. Of course from my boy RAFAAM (had him cornered anyhow - jaraxxus was raining down the Infernals on him). That Mage went right home crying in his frosty corner, so the old hag can be useful after all.
Rise of shadows is shaping up nice for Warlock (who would have thought), the Plot Twist stuff is quite entertaining.
I've been running a Portal Warlock with multiple Warlock Legendaries including Dr. Morrigan, Fel Lord Betrug, New Rafaam, and Godfrey. Dr. Morrigan works quite well with Betrug + Portal, often allowing you to get something else like Hakkar from your deck (without it dying at the end of turn). Unfortunately, it sometimes grabs Rafaam, so I need to also run Elysiana for lategame.
How am i supposed to make a working deck here?
Lord Jaraxxus: 9 mana set hp to 15, ok bliz my rank 25 opponents gonna wet their pants
Dr. Morrigan: rly?
Fel Lord Betrug: or as he is known on Argus: Meme Lord Betrug
Hir'eek, the Bat: if you get beat by this pls uninstall
Arch-Villain Rafaam: funny but does not work, not even against bomb stuff
Lord Godfrey: this is good i give you that. Bliz realize you need a way to comeback as Warlock so you can play Hir'eek, the Bat on turn 8, then concede
Glinda Crowskin: you can play 4 imps with this one, on turn 10!
High Priestess Jeklik: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The Soularium: useful to discard Lord Godfrey
Granted, some of these could be good but theres 0 support for anyone of those. Instead we got 65%+ Winrate Zoodeck (big fan here.. not).
Rafaam will be a must have for future standard control warlock.
so you tried him? i like the guy dont get me wrong, crafted him golden.
But you wont beat any decent synergy deck with random Legendarys 9 out of 10 times.
Made a deck with him, dollmaster and memelord betrug to call forth the evil Hakkar. Way to slow :)
While I disagree with some of your analysis it was presented in a manor that made me laugh and for that you get point sir lol.
Personally I made golden Rafaan day one because a hand and deck full of sexy golden legendaries is just pure fun. The card is actually really good if you use it properly. In a control v Control matchup your removal is largly useless...but if you turn it into legendaries odds are you're gonna get some good stuff. One game he gave me Talanji and I got a board full of minions next turn. Insta-concede from my opponent. In a zoo deck he can give you staying power when your tiny minions start to lose their value. Of all of the legendaries he's the safest craft because you can put him in any Warlock deck and it'll fulfill a good roll.
I opened a Golden Betrug the other day but haven't used him yet. I have heard he combos well with Plot twist but haven't tried it yet.
Soularium is really good in a zoo deck. You're not likely to run him in a deck with Godfrey.
I've won a few gmes with Hir'eek but I 100% agree he's a meme card without more reliable ways to buff him.
High priestess is a solid 4 drop even without her discard synergy
Jaraxxus has his uses, even at higher ranks depending on your opponent. He was my first ever legendary so I dare not talk shit on him. I wish he was 8 mana though instead of 9 mana.
I don't have Morrigan or Glinda so I won't comment on them
Zoolock is decent and runs both The Soularium and Arch-Villain Rafaam. If you are looking for a control oriented deck, at least right now warlock isn't looking great
That being said, you don't necessarily need the best class legendaries to make a good deck. Token Druid right now is arguably the best deck and only runs Keeper Stalladris as a class legendary. Tempo Rogue has Edwin VanCleef. Murloc Shaman only needs Scargil (some decks do run Swampqueen Hagatha and/or Hagatha the Witch).
Basically there are plenty of neutral legendaries to use, and even then, you don't need to fill a deck with legendaries - most decks generally only use 1-3, unless you are playing paladin or warrior lol
Rafaam is amazing I think TBH. sure sometimes you will gimp yourself, but then in those situations where the cards you get back do prevent a victory, you'd probably already lost anyway. (I'm referring to carpet zoo btw when I talk about rafaam and soularium)
Most of the time it lets you close out games that you might have struggled more on or not won at all.
I guess only time will tell though.
Also Soularium has been good in zoo decks since it was released. It's performing very well for me in the new zoo decks. Admittedly I crafted it at the start of boomsday and have barely used it up until now, but I can really see how good the card is in this current zoo deck I'm playing.
I love Glinda. I have made some pretty cool decks with her that were at least semi-viable. definitely not a competitive card for the most part.
She works best in conjunction with the portals and meta wagon though. There are ways to get out free minions or at least very cheap ones with her.
filling a board full of 7/7 taunts is pretty sweet.
Ah I actually miss those meat wagon/glinda/portal/giant decks around witchwood.
I don't know if there's much can be done with her at the minute, but I'd never count Glinda out, there's always a deck made with her, some better than others, but if you want a more fun, meme style deck then she will never disappoint.
p.S.: even won some games with Jaraxxus, Eredar Lord of the burning Legion (in casual).
On Glinda Crowskin: even with meat wagon and portals (i tried it) it was ridiculous easy to beat. Currently there is no way to make a portal stick. The surprise meatwagon was always a good prestige though.
On High Priestess Jeklik: While lakkari Saccrifice was in standard you could at least build a funny tier 5 deck and have a laugh after humilating someone with your 3/2 imps, but now? theres no way anyone put this in to just drop it on curve, sry bro ;)
On Arch-Villain Rafaam; i got to play this guy maybe 20-30 times. i tell you a little story. I got Talanji once. After dropping Rafaam i had 3 mana left (turn 10), and had the priest legendary Lazul on hand so i dropped this. Of course i see Brawl in enemy hand. I proceeded to drop 2 Millhouse Manastorm the turn after and then the concede button. This card is more like a last ditch effort when you realize all hope is lost anyway.
Yeah I mean rafaam is a total random card so I can see it going really bad sometimes. for me so far though it's been pretty decent, and it makes the deck pretty exciting too.
Sometimes just putting down that 8/8 taunt can win you a game though if you had board. it can take a lot to trade down an 8/8 without any solid removal.
I need to try out the imp zoo as well. there's one on here I can't find any stats on so far, but the people that have played it have said it's great. if this one turns out to be my favourite I may not even use rafaam as this deck doesn't need him at all. for the carpet zoo though I think rafaam really fits in well there.
ok you got me convinced, i try to make Hir'eek work. Maybe with the schemes, Demonbolts and that Totem Thing from rastakhans Rumble which buffs your guys.
i rest my case
Well I used a zoo like deck with spirit of the bat and the bat lol
Arch-Villain Rafaam: funny but does not work, not even against bomb stuff HUH this changes the bombs into legendaries How can u say this doesn't work LOL
Look dude, you aint going to beat any decent warrior with random legendarys, they play Dr.Boom and u are stuck with Loremaster Cho and his friends. Nearly any Legendary minion requires some build around (spells, draw, buff whatever) and your Gruul gets oneshot by the mech formerly known as Omega defender.
if its Bomb Control you lost right away, if your opponen has a more aggressive List and u managed to drop Rafaam after he put 8 or so bombs in your deck and your still alive good for you, now you can pray for some Rafaam highroll.
Dear Fel Lord Betrug,
I hereby apologice sincerely to you Sir for calling you memelord.
You did carry me to rank 5 with an astounishing 86% winrate from rank 7, only failing me once against an evildoing rogue and his pansy miscreants.
I will, from now on, always praise your funky hornes and never talk bad about the pimpstick you call an axe.
I don't think a deck built AROUND Glinda Crowskin would be good, like the Summoning Portal one. I really like her in my zoolock though, especially now that lackeys are a thing. I don't have Rafaam so I'm using her. 7 Health is nothing to sneeze at if you just drop her on turn 6. She'll either bait out the big removal, or survive. Or if you have a Carpet out too they might get rid of that thinking it's more threatening than she is.
I've gotten 3+ Sea Giants with her plenty of times, and she's GREAT with most of the lackeys. I love that with Witchy Lackeys, you can basically have an Unstable Evolution turn. Or reload your entire hand with spells with Ethereal Lackey. Or machine gun your opponent with a bunch of Kobold Lackeys.
I've been running a Portal Warlock with multiple Warlock Legendaries including Dr. Morrigan, Fel Lord Betrug, New Rafaam, and Godfrey. Dr. Morrigan works quite well with Betrug + Portal, often allowing you to get something else like Hakkar from your deck (without it dying at the end of turn). Unfortunately, it sometimes grabs Rafaam, so I need to also run Elysiana for lategame.
Wished to be pink.
Then did.
Then fired myself.
Then did again.
yeah the sea giant one is a nice addition to a Zoo List i can see that. I put her in my Hir'eek, the Bat list trying to do the same stuff :D
Just 2 Minutes ago i got 0 mana Shirvallah, the Tiger with Glinda Crowskin.
Of course from my boy RAFAAM (had him cornered anyhow - jaraxxus was raining down the Infernals on him). That Mage went right home crying in his frosty corner, so the old hag can be useful after all.
Rise of shadows is shaping up nice for Warlock (who would have thought), the Plot Twist stuff is quite entertaining.
Still not sold on Dr. Morrigan, sry Bro ;)
u got the list somewhere?
lmaoo