Note that this is not a salt thread just asking your opinion on this.
Warrior curently has Warpath, Brawl, Shield slam, Omega devastator, Dynomatic, Super collider, Execute for removals and Dr boom as a hero that gives rush to mechs and many other recourses (discover a mech, summon 3 1/1, etc)
He has way too many removals and he can clear easily big boards. But i feel that the main problem is Dr.boom's Rush to his mechs its just a huge tempo every turn since his decks have many mechs 2x omega assembly and a random passive to discover a mech.
So what do you think should he get Hofed, changed in some way or he is not a problem at all?
In comparison with Hagatha and Zul'jin i feel like he is way too OP.
No. No, and No.
The card will be out of rotation soon enough and with the already aggro heavy expansion this card isn't a problem.
Wait, what? Zul'jin is good but not more good than Tessa casting spells, for saying a similar card. Zul'jin could give you at least two extra turns in case that everything goes bad for you. Hagatha is a good tempo hero but most of the time the cards that you receive are too much situational. At the other hand Dr. Boom gives you a good surviability giving you 8 armor, doing 3 damage and, of course, giving all your mechs Rush and discovering new mech minions. He's by far, right now, the best hero card.
All Hero Cards are fine for me as long as i dont have to face Deathstalker Rexxar again. This was the most annoying card for me by far. Getting Hunter the option to go for a Control Gameplan and outvalue every controldeck was just stupid.
Wait, what? Zul'jin is good but not more good than Tessa casting spells, for saying a similar card. Zul'jin could give you at least two extra turns in case that everything goes bad for you. Hagatha is a good tempo hero but most of the time the cards that you receive are too much situational. At the other hand Dr. Boom gives you a good surviability giving you 8 armor, doing 3 damage and, of course, giving all your mechs Rush and discovering new mech minions. He's by far, right now, the best hero card.
I think that the reason many people see him as the weaker of the 3 (I don't necessarily agree, but understand the thinking) is that Dr Boom does not make an immediate impact on the game when he is played (unless you get a lucky roll on his HP and have the 2 mana spare) - whereas the other two have a direct impact on the board when they appear. Zul'jin, for instanec, can outright win you the game on the turn he arrives, given the right spells and RnG, etc.
But for the long game, then Dr Boom is obviously better as he generates cards, damage and health. It's all about playstyles and the right situation for each. That all said, of course, Dr Boom is still an "ok" card and certainly not in any need of nerfage or anything silly like that.
Yes. HOF Boom and Hagatha ASAP. Any single card that has no counter and completely alters the base game-state from that point forward should not exist, unless there is some serious risk/penalty involved (like Jaraxxus's health cap). That's why Baku and Genn are gone. It was a mistake to print more heros after the DK. Zuljin is not so bad, because the only change is that hero power can target minions—it's really more like a really strong 10-mana spell. But the value gained from Boom and Hagatha after they're played is too good and allows players to start the game with one kind of deck and then switch mid game, which basically reduces games to whether the single card is drawn or not, and removes difficult choices in deck design.
Yes. HOF Boom and Hagatha ASAP. Any single card that has no counter and completely alters the base game-state from that point forward should not exist, unless there is some serious risk/penalty involved (like Jaraxxus's health cap). That's why Baku and Genn are gone. It was a mistake to print more heros after the DK. Zuljin is not so bad, because the only change is that hero power can target minions—it's really more like a really strong 10-mana spell. But the value gained from Boom and Hagatha after they're played is too good and allows players to start the game with one kind of deck and then switch mid game, which basically reduces games to whether the single card is drawn or not, and removes difficult choices in deck design.
Ummmm. No? Because Hagatha requires you to have Minions to play to be effective and Dr Booms Random Hero Power can actually backfire for you.
People are so fixated on The Death Knights that they lose focus on what's OP and what's not.
DK Rexxar was disgusting because he turned an Aggro Deck into a Congrol/Value Deck at Turn 6. DK Jaina was disgusting because she gave almost infinite Life steal Value for you.
How are Dr Boom, Hagatha and Zul'jin comparable to those?
The card is spectacularly powerful by today's standards. Certainly, while the original DKs were in the meta, it was nothing to be overly concerned about. I doubt that it has yet risen to the status of nerf material, HOWEVER there are still 2 more sets to release before Boom would rotate normally. If they continue to omit hero cards from other classes, it is easily foreseeable that future warrior cards could push Boom over the edge.
I certainly hope it is not nerfed. However, some of the statements made in this thread about the card are so ridiculous as to have me rolling on the floor (rofl'ing as you kis say). NO, Boom is not the weakest of the current hero cards. NO, Boom is not "a win more card at best". The control warrior deck we are seeing would be completely unworkable without that card. That doesn't mean it needs to be nerfed, but I have no clue how you can downplay the importance of the card.
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No, and Baku/Genn got rotated early, not moved to the HoF.
Not true. They've been both HoFed, that's why we got 100% dust refund from them.
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Dr. Boom wasn't OP before rotation, because there were even stronger hero cards out there. Now, when most hero cards are gone, this single card rises warrior to another level, giving him insane value (close to infinite). That was fine, when every class had access to pretty much the same value generator, but now it's like playing different games. For me (as a Warlock-only player), Warrior = concede, because in most cases it's waste of time.
No, and Baku/Genn got rotated early, not moved to the HoF.
Not true. They've been both HoFed, that's why we got 100% dust refund from them.
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Dr. Boom wasn't OP before rotation, because there were even stronger hero cards out there. Now, when most hero cards are gone, this single card rises warrior to another level, giving him insane value (close to infinite). That was fine, when every class had access to pretty much the same value generator, but now it's like playing different games. For me (as a Warlock-only player), Warrior = concede, because in most cases it's waste of time.
I just looked it up and you are technically correct.
Surely that's wrong though, set cards don't rotate to the HoF, they simply get moved to Wild. For instance, if they ever moved Witchwood back to Standard, would Baku/Genn not move back with it?
It says they were "moved to the HoF a year early," cards don't just rotate to the HoF on a schedule, which is why I don't think this was the intended language.
Yes. Because he's a prevalent part of the Meta right now eh?
Dr Boom does not need HoF'ing. Ever.
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No. No, and No.
The card will be out of rotation soon enough and with the already aggro heavy expansion this card isn't a problem.
Wait, what? Zul'jin is good but not more good than Tessa casting spells, for saying a similar card.
Zul'jin could give you at least two extra turns in case that everything goes bad for you. Hagatha is a good tempo hero but most of the time the cards that you receive are too much situational.
At the other hand Dr. Boom gives you a good surviability giving you 8 armor, doing 3 damage and, of course, giving all your mechs Rush and discovering new mech minions. He's by far, right now, the best hero card.
All Hero Cards are fine for me as long as i dont have to face Deathstalker Rexxar again. This was the most annoying card for me by far. Getting Hunter the option to go for a Control Gameplan and outvalue every controldeck was just stupid.
I think that the reason many people see him as the weaker of the 3 (I don't necessarily agree, but understand the thinking) is that Dr Boom does not make an immediate impact on the game when he is played (unless you get a lucky roll on his HP and have the 2 mana spare) - whereas the other two have a direct impact on the board when they appear. Zul'jin, for instanec, can outright win you the game on the turn he arrives, given the right spells and RnG, etc.
But for the long game, then Dr Boom is obviously better as he generates cards, damage and health. It's all about playstyles and the right situation for each.
That all said, of course, Dr Boom is still an "ok" card and certainly not in any need of nerfage or anything silly like that.
Yes. HOF Boom and Hagatha ASAP. Any single card that has no counter and completely alters the base game-state from that point forward should not exist, unless there is some serious risk/penalty involved (like Jaraxxus's health cap). That's why Baku and Genn are gone. It was a mistake to print more heros after the DK. Zuljin is not so bad, because the only change is that hero power can target minions—it's really more like a really strong 10-mana spell. But the value gained from Boom and Hagatha after they're played is too good and allows players to start the game with one kind of deck and then switch mid game, which basically reduces games to whether the single card is drawn or not, and removes difficult choices in deck design.
Ummmm. No? Because Hagatha requires you to have Minions to play to be effective and Dr Booms Random Hero Power can actually backfire for you.
People are so fixated on The Death Knights that they lose focus on what's OP and what's not.
DK Rexxar was disgusting because he turned an Aggro Deck into a Congrol/Value Deck at Turn 6. DK Jaina was disgusting because she gave almost infinite Life steal Value for you.
How are Dr Boom, Hagatha and Zul'jin comparable to those?
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I have no issues with Boom, other than blast shield giving 7 armor seems unnecessary. Make it 5 and it's still very strong for 2 mana.
The card is spectacularly powerful by today's standards. Certainly, while the original DKs were in the meta, it was nothing to be overly concerned about. I doubt that it has yet risen to the status of nerf material, HOWEVER there are still 2 more sets to release before Boom would rotate normally. If they continue to omit hero cards from other classes, it is easily foreseeable that future warrior cards could push Boom over the edge.
I certainly hope it is not nerfed. However, some of the statements made in this thread about the card are so ridiculous as to have me rolling on the floor (rofl'ing as you kis say). NO, Boom is not the weakest of the current hero cards. NO, Boom is not "a win more card at best". The control warrior deck we are seeing would be completely unworkable without that card. That doesn't mean it needs to be nerfed, but I have no clue how you can downplay the importance of the card.
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No, and Baku/Genn got rotated early, not moved to the HoF.
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Here is a good question for the OP, if none of the Death Knight cards have been HoF'ed then why should Dr. Boom get special treatment?
he is fine rly, there are many many many more cards which would need a nerf more necessarly than before u would think about dr.boom hero
That's not true - just remember odd warrior.
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Not true. They've been both HoFed, that's why we got 100% dust refund from them.
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Dr. Boom wasn't OP before rotation, because there were even stronger hero cards out there. Now, when most hero cards are gone, this single card rises warrior to another level, giving him insane value (close to infinite). That was fine, when every class had access to pretty much the same value generator, but now it's like playing different games. For me (as a Warlock-only player), Warrior = concede, because in most cases it's waste of time.
I don't think so. I mean Bomb warrior has counters, it's not omnipotent by any standard.
The meta is actually very diverse at the moment.
It's silly to talk about nerfs or HoF at this time.
If you don't like losing to Boom Warrior, play Dragon Mage. Wrecks it every time.
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mech/bomb hunter does very well Vs. all the warrior decks as well right now. you can build one really cheap as well with just zilliax and no epics.
I just looked it up and you are technically correct.
https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/blog/22912682
Surely that's wrong though, set cards don't rotate to the HoF, they simply get moved to Wild. For instance, if they ever moved Witchwood back to Standard, would Baku/Genn not move back with it?
It says they were "moved to the HoF a year early," cards don't just rotate to the HoF on a schedule, which is why I don't think this was the intended language.
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Yes please! I got him golden, won't mind an additional 3200 Dust out of nowhere :-)
for consistency i would have moved all heros to the hall with genn and baku. Yes i know they are cool an popular but not so for rankings ...