Note that this is not a salt thread just asking your opinion on this.
Warrior curently has Warpath, Brawl, Shield slam, Omega devastator, Dynomatic, Super collider, Execute for removals and Dr boom as a hero that gives rush to mechs and many other recourses (discover a mech, summon 3 1/1, etc)
He has way too many removals and he can clear easily big boards. But i feel that the main problem is Dr.boom's Rush to his mechs its just a huge tempo every turn since his decks have many mechs 2x omega assembly and a random passive to discover a mech.
So what do you think should he get Hofed, changed in some way or he is not a problem at all?
In comparison with Hagatha and Zul'jin i feel like he is way too OP.
He's moving to wild next year anyways, which would be the time of next HoF. I don't think he should HoF'd however, I only think when cards are so good that it's the only deck played, that's when a card should bf HoF'd, to answer your question.
The thing that people need to understand is that Blizzard only put cards in the Hall of Fame on standard rotation. Since that just happened, they won't do it again for another year, and the hero cards get rotated to wild at that point anyway.
So you're not asking for HOF, you're asking for a nerf.
Dr Boom isn't a Classic card, so it will never be hall of famed. I don't think you realise what the hall of fame is. Since Boom is rotating out next year, he will be gone at some point anyway so the HoF is pointless. The only exception that's ever been made is the Odd / Even cards because they were deemed to be completely dominant in terms of the meta and removed diversity from the game. Since Boom does none of these things, don't expect anything to happen to him. He's not even that strong in any case. He's a win more card, at best.
Dr Boom isn't a Classic card, so it will never be hall of famed. I don't think you realise what the hall of fame is. Since Boom is rotating out next year, he will be gone at some point anyway so the HoF is pointless. The only exception that's ever been made is the Odd / Even cards because they were deemed to be completely dominant in terms of the meta and removed diversity from the game. Since Boom does none of these things, don't expect anything to happen to him. He's not even that strong in any case. He's a win more card, at best.
Baku and Genn wasn't classic either and they got hofed so your comment is irrelevant.
Dr Boom isn't a Classic card, so it will never be hall of famed. I don't think you realise what the hall of fame is. Since Boom is rotating out next year, he will be gone at some point anyway so the HoF is pointless. The only exception that's ever been made is the Odd / Even cards because they were deemed to be completely dominant in terms of the meta and removed diversity from the game. Since Boom does none of these things, don't expect anything to happen to him. He's not even that strong in any case. He's a win more card, at best.
Baku and Genn wasn't classic either and they got hofed so your comment is irrelevant.
He literally talked about Baku and Genn in his comment so idk what you're trying to get at here? It is perfectly relevant, Boom does nothing to kill the diversity of the meta like Baku and Genn making them the only exception to the rule. Boom does not shape the meta and doesn't feel oppressive except for the fact that whoever plays it first in the mirror match usually is the winner due to more value from him.
Hagatha is a board clear and value generator especially with underbelly angler and murlocs. And Zuljin is a swing play. I'd say Zuljin is the most oppressive since it can win you the game on the spot if they have enough spells played prior to.
No, but he should either be A) more expensive (9-10 mana, considering the power of the persistent rush effect) or B) see some kind of nerf, like adding a random mech to his hand instead of discovering, or his deal 1 damage HP affects all characters, etc. Those would be more flavorful, IMO, and reduce his power level, without destroying the card.
I think the other change that should probably happen is that Blastmaster Boom’s Battlecry also removes bombs from the opponent’s deck (I.e. it brings them onto the board). That way the player needs to decide whether he’s better off keeping 5-damage bombs in the deck, or if he needs burst damage NOW. Right now, the only thing to consider is whether there are enough bombs in the deck to justify playing the card.
The deck isn’t oppressive when you look at it holistically, but there are some games where Bomb Warrior can just win, doing up to 24 face damage from rushing boombots before Boom’s opponent draws 2-3 bombs in a row. Doesn’t feel like that’s how HS games are supposed to play out.
I don’t think that’s true right now. He’s the only one with a persistent effect (Mechs have rush), which combined with his Discover a Mech ability is extremely powerful. Compare to Hagatha, who generates random spells which may or may not be useful, and Zul’Jin, who will currently play secrets and summon some 5/5s + Animal Companions on turn 10, before becoming just a slightly upgraded Rexxar. Zul’Jin will theoretically get more powerful when the next two expansions are released, but right now I’d say Boom is clearly the most well-tuned of the hero cards.
Dr Boom isn't a Classic card, so it will never be hall of famed. I don't think you realise what the hall of fame is. Since Boom is rotating out next year, he will be gone at some point anyway so the HoF is pointless. The only exception that's ever been made is the Odd / Even cards because they were deemed to be completely dominant in terms of the meta and removed diversity from the game. Since Boom does none of these things, don't expect anything to happen to him. He's not even that strong in any case. He's a win more card, at best.
Baku and Genn wasn't classic either and they got hofed so your comment is irrelevant.
Did you even read their entire comment before auto-shit-replying? They obviously addressed Odd/Even... maybe only post after reading, otherwise people will assume you're just shit-posting for the sake of reading your own comments and the reactions they evoke
I don't think Dr. Boom hero card will ever get HoF'd. If anything Archivist Elysiana is far more likely candidate for HoF: If you don't run her in a Control list, you're just playing an inferior Control list. Feel free to prove me wrong on this statement.
Note that this is not a salt thread just asking your opinion on this.
Warrior curently has Warpath, Brawl, Shield slam, Omega devastator, Dynomatic, Super collider, Execute for removals and Dr boom as a hero that gives rush to mechs and many other recourses (discover a mech, summon 3 1/1, etc)
He has way too many removals and he can clear easily big boards. But i feel that the main problem is Dr.boom's Rush to his mechs its just a huge tempo every turn since his decks have many mechs 2x omega assembly and a random passive to discover a mech.
So what do you think should he get Hofed, changed in some way or he is not a problem at all?
In comparison with Hagatha and Zul'jin i feel like he is way too OP.
He's the weakest of the 3 hero cards left. No.
He's moving to wild next year anyways, which would be the time of next HoF. I don't think he should HoF'd however, I only think when cards are so good that it's the only deck played, that's when a card should bf HoF'd, to answer your question.
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The thing that people need to understand is that Blizzard only put cards in the Hall of Fame on standard rotation. Since that just happened, they won't do it again for another year, and the hero cards get rotated to wild at that point anyway.
So you're not asking for HOF, you're asking for a nerf.
HoF? Probably no but a nerf to 8 manas are necessary.
Dr Boom isn't a Classic card, so it will never be hall of famed.
I don't think you realise what the hall of fame is.
Since Boom is rotating out next year, he will be gone at some point anyway so the HoF is pointless. The only exception that's ever been made is the Odd / Even cards because they were deemed to be completely dominant in terms of the meta and removed diversity from the game.
Since Boom does none of these things, don't expect anything to happen to him.
He's not even that strong in any case. He's a win more card, at best.
Baku and Genn wasn't classic either and they got hofed so your comment is irrelevant.
Guys i know how HoF works but already happened with Baku and Genn getting Hof'd one year earlier thats why i mentioned it.
not even top dog in the meta. druid/hunter/aggro whatever.
Dr Boom isn't a Classic card, so it will never be hall of famed.
I don't think you realise what the hall of fame is.
Since Boom is rotating out next year, he will be gone at some point anyway so the HoF is pointless. The only exception that's ever been made is the Odd / Even cards because they were deemed to be completely dominant in terms of the meta and removed diversity from the game.
Since Boom does none of these things, don't expect anything to happen to him.
He's not even that strong in any case. He's a win more card, at best.
Baku and Genn wasn't classic either and they got hofed so your comment is irrelevant.
He literally talked about Baku and Genn in his comment so idk what you're trying to get at here? It is perfectly relevant, Boom does nothing to kill the diversity of the meta like Baku and Genn making them the only exception to the rule. Boom does not shape the meta and doesn't feel oppressive except for the fact that whoever plays it first in the mirror match usually is the winner due to more value from him.
Hagatha is a board clear and value generator especially with underbelly angler and murlocs. And Zuljin is a swing play. I'd say Zuljin is the most oppressive since it can win you the game on the spot if they have enough spells played prior to.
No, but he should either be A) more expensive (9-10 mana, considering the power of the persistent rush effect) or B) see some kind of nerf, like adding a random mech to his hand instead of discovering, or his deal 1 damage HP affects all characters, etc. Those would be more flavorful, IMO, and reduce his power level, without destroying the card.
I think the other change that should probably happen is that Blastmaster Boom’s Battlecry also removes bombs from the opponent’s deck (I.e. it brings them onto the board). That way the player needs to decide whether he’s better off keeping 5-damage bombs in the deck, or if he needs burst damage NOW. Right now, the only thing to consider is whether there are enough bombs in the deck to justify playing the card.
The deck isn’t oppressive when you look at it holistically, but there are some games where Bomb Warrior can just win, doing up to 24 face damage from rushing boombots before Boom’s opponent draws 2-3 bombs in a row. Doesn’t feel like that’s how HS games are supposed to play out.
8 mana do nothing. Wow, great idea. Are you sure you are not part of their official balance team?
I don’t think that’s true right now. He’s the only one with a persistent effect (Mechs have rush), which combined with his Discover a Mech ability is extremely powerful. Compare to Hagatha, who generates random spells which may or may not be useful, and Zul’Jin, who will currently play secrets and summon some 5/5s + Animal Companions on turn 10, before becoming just a slightly upgraded Rexxar. Zul’Jin will theoretically get more powerful when the next two expansions are released, but right now I’d say Boom is clearly the most well-tuned of the hero cards.
He’s too weak for a nerf, maybe 8 mana but that’s not that important.
It cannot be 8 mana, it must be 7. It goes against the design Philosophy of HS. Dr. Boom Must Have All 7s (stats and cost).
Did you even read their entire comment before auto-shit-replying? They obviously addressed Odd/Even... maybe only post after reading, otherwise people will assume you're just shit-posting for the sake of reading your own comments and the reactions they evoke
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I don't think Dr. Boom hero card will ever get HoF'd. If anything Archivist Elysiana is far more likely candidate for HoF: If you don't run her in a Control list, you're just playing an inferior Control list. Feel free to prove me wrong on this statement.
How about we leave the poor Dr alone to play with his mechs and hof Leeroy Jenkins?