I'm up to 9-1 with Control Shaman against Bomb Warrior. The mirror match is certainly not the best counter.
P.s. Don't put your faith in stats on the first day one way or the other.
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3 ways to counter so far I've seen. My only legendary in 35 packs was the bomb legendary for warrior so my first deck was a bomb warrior not realizing how strong it really is. Elek is OP with that deck! The 3 counters are -
I'm up to 9-1 with Control Shaman against Bomb Warrior. The mirror match is certainly not the best counter.
P.s. Don't put your faith in stats on the first day one way or the other.
Sorry I believe HS replay more than you. 10 games is nothing, YOU don't put faith in your stats lol :P. Well done anyway, I'd be curious to know your deck list.
I wrote very clearly what you must do to deal with bomb warrior, and it involves neutral cards.
A deck isn't OP because you won't adapt to it.
Sure, adaptation is key.
As I said, hopefully it will be contained by the meta in general, by playing Aggro for example, or Control with enough healing/armor.
The most important factor is indeed that each class has access to some way to deal with it, with the correct tweaks.
Btw, It should be noted that Bomb Warrior might emerge in Wild as well, maybe in a Control-ish form to survive long enough: many top tier decks in Wild involve heavy card draw, including Aggro/Burn, and Bombs are a major disruption to that.
I'm up to 9-1 with Control Shaman against Bomb Warrior. The mirror match is certainly not the best counter.
P.s. Don't put your faith in stats on the first day one way or the other.
Sorry I believe HS replay more than you. 10 games is nothing, YOU don't put faith in your stats lol :P. Well done anyway, I'd be curious to know your deck list.
I don't. I have no expectation of enjoying a 90% win rate in the long run. But the deck is clearly able to handle the bomb warrior quite well.
The mirror match is not the most effective way to beat the bomb warrior. That claim was just false.
There are very simple ways to deal with this deck, using neutral cards. If people refuse to make the proper adjustments, then of course the win rates will be high. But this thread is called "Wrenchcaliber OP", and that is a ridiculous statement.
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Bomb warrior : 66% winrate, 75% winrate when blastmaster played.
Best counter deck : Bomb warrior
Nice work Blizzard.
Yes. Because its Blizzards fault that most people who play HS don't like to experiment and choose the Streamers Deck Of Choice without giving it a second thought.
And this is still less than 24° after the Expansion has dropped. Get a grip and stop moaning.
Personally I've been playing Summoner Mage, Silence Priest, Deathrattle Priest, Mech Hunter and Burgle Rogue. And I'm loving it.
Bomb warrior : 66% winrate, 75% winrate when blastmaster played.
Best counter deck : Bomb warrior
Nice work Blizzard.
Yes. Because its Blizzards fault that most people who play HS don't like to experiment and choose the Streamers Deck Of Choice without giving it a second thought.
And this is still less than 24° after the Expansion has dropped. Get a grip and stop moaning.
Personally I've been playing Summoner Mage, Silence Priest, Deathrattle Priest, Mech Hunter and Burgle Rogue. And I'm loving it.
Bomb warrior : 66% winrate, 75% winrate when blastmaster played.
Best counter deck : Bomb warrior
Nice work Blizzard.
Yes. Because its Blizzards fault that most people who play HS don't like to experiment and choose the Streamers Deck Of Choice without giving it a second thought.
And this is still less than 24° after the Expansion has dropped. Get a grip and stop moaning.
Personally I've been playing Summoner Mage, Silence Priest, Deathrattle Priest, Mech Hunter and Burgle Rogue. And I'm loving it.
I'm having a lot of success against bomb warriors with my aggro deck. They are usually already dead before I draw bombs. Might not be the perfect counter but I have won a considerable amount with this match-up
I can't wait til they nerf it by making upgrade trash, the same way they nerfed kingsbane making it unplayable by nerfing leaching poison, and ignoring the sudo kingsbane cutlass entirely
It should get nerfed, we established that Rogue shouldn't have unlimited healing, and that is exactly what the cutlass is.
I fear that you're probably right, but almost nobody gave a crap about Spectral Cutlass before this expansion. I've played around 200 games with Wild Tess Rogue since Boomsday, and it was some of the most fun I've ever had in hearthstone. I can empathize with Aviana/Kun players now. Having a semi-viable fun deck, then it potentially getting nuked because of synergy with a new card.
Use your knowledge of Hearthstone to build a deck that counters bomb warrior. There are basic/classic neutral cards that destroy weapons, gain armor and heal. There are classes that have unique cards that counter (Arch-Villain Rafaam, Academic Espionage, Time Out, Nozari). The new Archivist legendary will remove all bombs in your deck. Mass Dispel can silence the Boombots.
And you can always rush down the enemy hero before dying yourself.
I can't wait til they nerf it by making upgrade trash, the same way they nerfed kingsbane making it unplayable by nerfing leaching poison, and ignoring the sudo kingsbane cutlass entirely
It should get nerfed, we established that Rogue shouldn't have unlimited healing, and that is exactly what the cutlass is.
Sorry, but you are just tilted and you cannot be taken serious. Your comparison to Kingsbane is nonsense.
Kingsbane needed to be addressed, because 1) there was almost no counter to it, except some special warlock shenanigans with mill and gnomeferatu or stealing it with priest. And 2) Kingsbane keeps all the enchantments, so oozing doesn't work.
While Cutless gets easily countered by Oozing. Just keep your ooze after he buffs his weapon to 5+ and you are on the save spot. Your idea would ruin this weapon. That's why I disagree with you.
To the topic:
Bomb warrior isn't op as well, but really strong. You can countered it with warlock or priest (steal priest works), because you can outvalue the warrior. But you have also the neutral legendary, which gives 2 copys of 5 cards in your deck and replace the bombs.
3 ways to counter so far I've seen. My only legendary in 35 packs was the bomb legendary for warrior so my first deck was a bomb warrior not realizing how strong it really is. Elek is OP with that deck! The 3 counters are -
1) Arch theif rafaam
2) elysiana
3) have 10 cards in hand and burn the bombs
Or heal off the damage and stall out the bombs? Unless you take 6 in a row, feelsbadman
Its really strong because Rush Warrior was already a reasonable deck that played very few year of the mammoth cards, so all we had to do was slot the 5 new cards into a pre-existing shell and replace the few things that rotated out. Once the rest of the classes, which have been forced to innovate more, have caught up, Bomb Warrior will be much less of a "tier 0" feeling deck. I agree it is bonkers right now though.
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I'm up to 9-1 with Control Shaman against Bomb Warrior. The mirror match is certainly not the best counter.
P.s. Don't put your faith in stats on the first day one way or the other.
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3 ways to counter so far I've seen. My only legendary in 35 packs was the bomb legendary for warrior so my first deck was a bomb warrior not realizing how strong it really is. Elek is OP with that deck! The 3 counters are -
1) Arch theif rafaam
2) elysiana
3) have 10 cards in hand and burn the bombs
Sorry I believe HS replay more than you. 10 games is nothing, YOU don't put faith in your stats lol :P. Well done anyway, I'd be curious to know your deck list.
Sure, adaptation is key.
As I said, hopefully it will be contained by the meta in general, by playing Aggro for example, or Control with enough healing/armor.
The most important factor is indeed that each class has access to some way to deal with it, with the correct tweaks.
Btw, It should be noted that Bomb Warrior might emerge in Wild as well, maybe in a Control-ish form to survive long enough: many top tier decks in Wild involve heavy card draw, including Aggro/Burn, and Bombs are a major disruption to that.
Only Tempo/Midrange decks are virtually safe.
Do you think the weapon should be a 4 mana 4/2 (or 3/2) deathrattle to make it more fair?
I don't. I have no expectation of enjoying a 90% win rate in the long run. But the deck is clearly able to handle the bomb warrior quite well.
The mirror match is not the most effective way to beat the bomb warrior. That claim was just false.
There are very simple ways to deal with this deck, using neutral cards. If people refuse to make the proper adjustments, then of course the win rates will be high. But this thread is called "Wrenchcaliber OP", and that is a ridiculous statement.
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Yes. Because its Blizzards fault that most people who play HS don't like to experiment and choose the Streamers Deck Of Choice without giving it a second thought.
And this is still less than 24° after the Expansion has dropped. Get a grip and stop moaning.
Personally I've been playing Summoner Mage, Silence Priest, Deathrattle Priest, Mech Hunter and Burgle Rogue. And I'm loving it.
4/3/19 RIP Keith Flint. 😔
I don't care what you play lol
I played Espionage rogue and shuffled so many cards into my deck with espionage and the scheme that I never drew his bombs.
That's interesting. How did you deal with Blastmaster ?
Heistbaron Togwaggle into Golden Kobold
My current mage deck (wild,reno,otk,highlander)
My current hunter deck (wild,reno,highlander)
"The game is dead"
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Lucky Walk the plank and Fan of Knives in my hand - face damage were not a problem at this time due to cuttless with Deadly poison.
Which isn't the point is it? Douche. .
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I'm having a lot of success against bomb warriors with my aggro deck. They are usually already dead before I draw bombs. Might not be the perfect counter but I have won a considerable amount with this match-up
I fear that you're probably right, but almost nobody gave a crap about Spectral Cutlass before this expansion. I've played around 200 games with Wild Tess Rogue since Boomsday, and it was some of the most fun I've ever had in hearthstone. I can empathize with Aviana/Kun players now. Having a semi-viable fun deck, then it potentially getting nuked because of synergy with a new card.
Build. A. Counter.
Use your knowledge of Hearthstone to build a deck that counters bomb warrior. There are basic/classic neutral cards that destroy weapons, gain armor and heal. There are classes that have unique cards that counter (Arch-Villain Rafaam, Academic Espionage, Time Out, Nozari). The new Archivist legendary will remove all bombs in your deck. Mass Dispel can silence the Boombots.
And you can always rush down the enemy hero before dying yourself.
Healing seems to be the most effective way to counter bomb warriors. That and ending the match before bombs even become relevant.
Sorry, but you are just tilted and you cannot be taken serious. Your comparison to Kingsbane is nonsense.
Kingsbane needed to be addressed, because 1) there was almost no counter to it, except some special warlock shenanigans with mill and gnomeferatu or stealing it with priest. And 2) Kingsbane keeps all the enchantments, so oozing doesn't work.
While Cutless gets easily countered by Oozing. Just keep your ooze after he buffs his weapon to 5+ and you are on the save spot. Your idea would ruin this weapon. That's why I disagree with you.
To the topic:
Bomb warrior isn't op as well, but really strong. You can countered it with warlock or priest (steal priest works), because you can outvalue the warrior. But you have also the neutral legendary, which gives 2 copys of 5 cards in your deck and replace the bombs.
My first created Hearthstone cards:
Or heal off the damage and stall out the bombs? Unless you take 6 in a row, feelsbadman
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Its really strong because Rush Warrior was already a reasonable deck that played very few year of the mammoth cards, so all we had to do was slot the 5 new cards into a pre-existing shell and replace the few things that rotated out. Once the rest of the classes, which have been forced to innovate more, have caught up, Bomb Warrior will be much less of a "tier 0" feeling deck. I agree it is bonkers right now though.