So this far we already know this set will bring Five villain characters: Rafaam, Toggwaggle, Hagatha, Dr.Boom, and Lazul, for Warlock, Rogue, Shaman, Warrior, and Priest respectively. All these characters are from previous sets (only lazul as a very little exception) and all of them are unique to hearthstone (this time boom as a little exception).
Reading along the comentaries i saw someone suggested that if we get five villains for those clases, will also be getting 4 heroes (not hero cards tho) for the rest of them as the oppossition of the villains in this or the following sets. Wich to me sound very likely to happen (but who knows).
Then, a little time for speculation. If that "heroes" follow the same rules as the villains (comeback characters unique to hearthstone lore) what characters do you guys think the paladin, hunter, mage and druid clases will get?.
Ill name some of the characters i think can make good candidates for each clases, though some of them arent actually "good guy" characters.
Thats all i can think of, i may have missed some characters like the ones in the solo mode games, and i intentionally avoided lore powerfull characters such as Amara or Aviana (also a WoW character).
The idea of four returning characters for those clases sounds like a good idea, but i actually think we will end up getting one or more new characters in there, because most of the characters i mentioned dont actually fit that well, and most of them are all humans. We can also end up having a combination of Returning, New and Wow characters. All of that assuming that the four heroes statement may be true.
It's funny you named villians as "heros" you named the gang leaders/members of gadgetzan as heros.. lol as well as a monster, and an ethereal that look more like a villian
I like the way you think, but we most likely won't be getting most of those characters because their goals are too distant from caring about these villains. The Gadgetzan characters care mostly about their factions and fighting the opposing factions. And for Saarad, Zola, and Umbra, they are too minor of a character to rise up to a heroic position. No idea about Alanna though, so maybe that would work.
I think that we will likely have heroes that originally matched up against the villains, so I definitely think that either Reno or Elise will show up because of Rafaam being there, but probably only one. (Likely Reno would be Paladin and Elise would be Druid)
Going further, in The Witchwood, while most people seemed to oppose Hagatha, I think Genn Greymane was the leader of the Worgens, which I think was the main force trying to fight her. I could see him either as a Hunter or Druid card. Shaw and Toki might be good picks too since they want to take down Hagatha.
For Dr. Boom, since he was originally from Goblins vs. Gnomes, I can imagine a new Gnomish hero coming in to oppose him. Im thinking they would be a mage simply because of Toki, which I think would be a good candidate, even though she already wants to fight Hagatha.
As for someone to oppose Togwaggle, K&C didn't really have any real group fighting against the Kobolds since we were just basically raiding the Kobold's homes. The best thing I can think of is maybe a Dwarf hero for the only reason being that Dwarves also live in mountains and thus could want to fight with the Kobolds. So, maybe Hemet might want to join the fight to take out Togwaggle.
The same thing is true for Lazul, except I have no idea where she is really from. The closest thing I can think of is the Old Gods just because she has that vibe. If this is true, I have no idea who would oppose her since I don't really know who was opposing the Old Gods (it kinda seemed like everyone who wasn't corrupted). So, you could probably toss in any classic hero like Tirion, Antonidas, Cenarius, etc. and remaster them, similar to how Elise was treated. And for some reason, even though she is an alternate hero already, I think Tyrande could also be a card here (take that with a grain of salt though)
some of the class legendaries from kobolds are Hearthstone original adventurers
kathrena the hunter,Alanna the mage,Lynessa the paladin,Sonya the rogue,Oakheart , and marin the fox.
Those are kind of "good guys" although they were mostly for the K&K raid esque adventure.
they were the ones that took togglewaggle's treasures probably.
Boom isn't HS original but it's role in WOW is so minor... in HS he was known so much more for being the most powerful 7 drop for about 2 years.. and still being playable in wild.
Now I think about it.. we mostly get villians rather than good guys in HS..
Well villains from the past are teaming up and they are attacking Dalaran, why would good guys from the past protect it? Not everyone is in Dalaran. They revealed Kalecgos which is a completely new character that lives in Dalaran. I would like to see some new characters. And of course maybe some old characters will be back like Medivh because he is connected with Dalaran.
I actually think we should look to NPCs in WoW that could fit the bill. More specifically NPCs that are in Dalaran or associated with Dalaran in some way.
Paladin: Lord Maxwell Tyrosus would be on my short list as he is a champion of the Silver Hand and former Leader of the Argent Dawn and he has a cool eye patch so that's a big plus.
Hunter: Vereesa Windrunner is the Ranger-General of the Silver Covenant. An elven ranger who fought throughout the Second and Third Wars, she is the youngest sister of Alleria and Sylvanas.
Mage: Kalecgos they already showed us this card so yea this is our Mage guy.
Druid: Arch Druid Hamuul Runetotem would be my first choice. He is iconic in WoW and is archdruid of the tauren, leader of the Horde druids, Druid Representative on the New Council of Tirisfal, Champion of the Cenarion Circle, Advisor to Baine.
Well stated! I don't know much about the WoW lore since I barely played it when you could get the Paladin hero for playing it. Based on the background info of each of them, I would definitely agree that those are better choices for some newer heroes. However, if Rastakhan is any indication of how this set will go, I'm pretty sure that each class will be getting 2 legendaries again, so likely we will be getting another Mage character, which will probably not be a dragon. My money would probably be on Khadgar or maybe Medivh, since my quick google search told me they are some of the most powerful mages and had something major to do with Dalaran.
Also, I'm really hoping that you are right with Runetotem. Taurens are really underrepresented in legendaries.
well i dont have much idea but it feels like you guys are way off..
mage was said to be mysterious but familiar. Kalecgos could be the second mage legendary. it could be Medivh again. After all this is Booms third time.
Aya was in Druid/Rogue/Shaman - If you think that you will see her again as a 'Good Guy', she will be a Druid card (since Rogue and Shaman are the 'Bad Guys')
Hunter: Vereesa Windrunner is the Ranger-General of the Silver Covenant. An elven ranger who fought throughout the Second and Third Wars, she is the youngest sister of Alleria and Sylvanas.
So this far we already know this set will bring Five villain characters: Rafaam, Toggwaggle, Hagatha, Dr.Boom, and Lazul, for Warlock, Rogue, Shaman, Warrior, and Priest respectively. All these characters are from previous sets (only lazul as a very little exception) and all of them are unique to hearthstone (this time boom as a little exception).
Reading along the comentaries i saw someone suggested that if we get five villains for those clases, will also be getting 4 heroes (not hero cards tho) for the rest of them as the oppossition of the villains in this or the following sets. Wich to me sound very likely to happen (but who knows).
Then, a little time for speculation. If that "heroes" follow the same rules as the villains (comeback characters unique to hearthstone lore) what characters do you guys think the paladin, hunter, mage and druid clases will get?.
Ill name some of the characters i think can make good candidates for each clases, though some of them arent actually "good guy" characters.
Paladin:Lynessa Sunsorrow, Reno Jackson, Nexus-Champion Saraad , Zola the Gorgon (?).
Hunter: Houndmaster Shaw, Aya Blackpaw, Elise Starseeker, Marin the Fox, Hemet Nesingwary (I know he is from WoW Lore, but i have no idea how much of a character he is there).
Mage: Dragoncaller Alanna (since is year of the dragon seems very likely to me), Inkmaster Solia, Kazakus.
Druid: Spiritsinger Umbra.
Thats all i can think of, i may have missed some characters like the ones in the solo mode games, and i intentionally avoided lore powerfull characters such as Amara or Aviana (also a WoW character).
The idea of four returning characters for those clases sounds like a good idea, but i actually think we will end up getting one or more new characters in there, because most of the characters i mentioned dont actually fit that well, and most of them are all humans. We can also end up having a combination of Returning, New and Wow characters. All of that assuming that the four heroes statement may be true.
> Hunter hero
> Aya Blackpaw
Hunter = Jade Lotus confirmed?
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Mage was already spoiled: Kalecgos
It's funny you named villians as "heros" you named the gang leaders/members of gadgetzan as heros.. lol as well as a monster, and an ethereal that look more like a villian
Well each of these classes are getting 2 legendaries each as usual. But it's very unlikely that they'll all get a 'returning character'.
You might see one character from LoE or one of the adventurers from K&C. But that's just a theory...
Kazakus was pretty much explicitly a bad guy. I actually expect to see him as a villain in one of the other 2 sets this year
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I like the way you think, but we most likely won't be getting most of those characters because their goals are too distant from caring about these villains. The Gadgetzan characters care mostly about their factions and fighting the opposing factions. And for Saarad, Zola, and Umbra, they are too minor of a character to rise up to a heroic position. No idea about Alanna though, so maybe that would work.
I think that we will likely have heroes that originally matched up against the villains, so I definitely think that either Reno or Elise will show up because of Rafaam being there, but probably only one. (Likely Reno would be Paladin and Elise would be Druid)
Going further, in The Witchwood, while most people seemed to oppose Hagatha, I think Genn Greymane was the leader of the Worgens, which I think was the main force trying to fight her. I could see him either as a Hunter or Druid card. Shaw and Toki might be good picks too since they want to take down Hagatha.
For Dr. Boom, since he was originally from Goblins vs. Gnomes, I can imagine a new Gnomish hero coming in to oppose him. Im thinking they would be a mage simply because of Toki, which I think would be a good candidate, even though she already wants to fight Hagatha.
As for someone to oppose Togwaggle, K&C didn't really have any real group fighting against the Kobolds since we were just basically raiding the Kobold's homes. The best thing I can think of is maybe a Dwarf hero for the only reason being that Dwarves also live in mountains and thus could want to fight with the Kobolds. So, maybe Hemet might want to join the fight to take out Togwaggle.
The same thing is true for Lazul, except I have no idea where she is really from. The closest thing I can think of is the Old Gods just because she has that vibe. If this is true, I have no idea who would oppose her since I don't really know who was opposing the Old Gods (it kinda seemed like everyone who wasn't corrupted). So, you could probably toss in any classic hero like Tirion, Antonidas, Cenarius, etc. and remaster them, similar to how Elise was treated. And for some reason, even though she is an alternate hero already, I think Tyrande could also be a card here (take that with a grain of salt though)
Here's my ideas compiled:
Paladin: Reno, Tirion, maybe even Bolvar
Hunter: Genn, Shaw, Hemet
Mage: Toki, Antonidas, maybe Medivh
Druid: Elise, Cenarius, Tyrande?
some of the class legendaries from kobolds are Hearthstone original adventurers
kathrena the hunter,Alanna the mage,Lynessa the paladin,Sonya the rogue,Oakheart , and marin the fox.
Those are kind of "good guys" although they were mostly for the K&K raid esque adventure.
they were the ones that took togglewaggle's treasures probably.
Boom isn't HS original but it's role in WOW is so minor... in HS he was known so much more for being the most powerful 7 drop for about 2 years.. and still being playable in wild.
Now I think about it.. we mostly get villians rather than good guys in HS..
Well villains from the past are teaming up and they are attacking Dalaran, why would good guys from the past protect it? Not everyone is in Dalaran. They revealed Kalecgos which is a completely new character that lives in Dalaran. I would like to see some new characters. And of course maybe some old characters will be back like Medivh because he is connected with Dalaran.
Enemy of Lazul? Could it be a 'good' old god? One who joins with Dalaran simply to defeat Lazul?
Could be something Juxtaposed, like Ragnaros, Lightlord.
I actually think we should look to NPCs in WoW that could fit the bill. More specifically NPCs that are in Dalaran or associated with Dalaran in some way.
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Well stated! I don't know much about the WoW lore since I barely played it when you could get the Paladin hero for playing it. Based on the background info of each of them, I would definitely agree that those are better choices for some newer heroes. However, if Rastakhan is any indication of how this set will go, I'm pretty sure that each class will be getting 2 legendaries again, so likely we will be getting another Mage character, which will probably not be a dragon. My money would probably be on Khadgar or maybe Medivh, since my quick google search told me they are some of the most powerful mages and had something major to do with Dalaran.
Also, I'm really hoping that you are right with Runetotem. Taurens are really underrepresented in legendaries.
well i dont have much idea but it feels like you guys are way off..
mage was said to be mysterious but familiar. Kalecgos could be the second mage legendary. it could be Medivh again. After all this is Booms third time.
and ive heard hunter is gonna be Houdmaster shaw.
Aya was in Druid/Rogue/Shaman - If you think that you will see her again as a 'Good Guy', she will be a Druid card (since Rogue and Shaman are the 'Bad Guys')
Maybe each class will have both a "hero" legendary and a "villain" legendary?
Is there any evidence that this can't be the case?
I wonder, why this thread gains so much more answers than mine, which I created a few days ago...? (https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/231292-we-know-the-members-of-e-v-i-l-but-what-could-be)
Nailed it ...
https://www.hearthpwn.com/news/6476-hunter-legendary-reveal-vereesa-windrunner