This is something we really need to consider. Quote from an article:
THE REAL COST OF EACH EXPANSION
It costs about $150 plus all the gold you earn from four months of playing to get most of the good stuff in a Hearthstone expansion, and probably about $200 to get everything in a new set without breaking down your golden cards for dust.
That's a lot of money on a single game every four months. And bear in mind that a good percentage of the cards will be pure crap.
The cost of an expansion has more to do with what your expectations and requirements are. It also has to do with your ability to wait.
If you want to play every deck and have every card its going to cost a lot. If you want to play a few of the top decks and have fun the cost is a lot less.
Its possible to save 10k dust between expansions. It takes time and dedication, but its possible. You can also spend money if you dont have the time. Nothing in life is free. If you open 100 packs its possible to play a few top decks and have fun.
Next if you play on a budget you have to be wise in your crafting. You cant rush right after release and craft what may be good. You have to wait for the meta to settle and let others waste dust testing the cards. Then a few weeks into the meta you craft the best. Lastly keeping gold cards is nice if thats what you want. But you are inflating the cost of the game by keeping them. Gold cards have no advantage during play. They just look pretty. If you want to keep cost s down dust gold cards you have the max normal versions of.
This this this. The entire year of the mammoth I didn’t spend a dime because I was able to save up 6-7K of gold between expansions just by doing dailies and a bit extra from wins. Every expansion last year I opened my packs, disenchanted dupes and sat on my dust for 2 weeks until the meta shook out a bit. I haven’t felt like I’ve missed out on any “good” cards all last year. I also don’t wild so every year I can mass disenchant for big dust gains. Like you said it’s what you expect from the game.
This is something we really need to consider. Quote from an article:
THE REAL COST OF EACH EXPANSION
It costs about $150 plus all the gold you earn from four months of playing to get most of the good stuff in a Hearthstone expansion, and probably about $200 to get everything in a new set without breaking down your golden cards for dust.
That's a lot of money on a single game every four months. And bear in mind that a good percentage of the cards will be pure crap.
Aaaaaaaand here we go again...
Sigh...
Dude, I'm just going to use the few gold I have (I haven't played Hearthstone too much lately), my arcane dust and play some arena games to get all the cards I would probably need from this expansion. You said it yourself, for God sake: a good porcentage of the cards will be pure crap.
There is really no reason to complain about f...king everything all the time. Let's throw shit at Blizzard when they really deserve it, ok?
I know I've been flippant about it before, but it really comes down to this:
There has to be some incentive to spend money on the game. If you're free to play, it's hard to have everything because they have to create that incentive. Some games manage to keep all the perks aesthetic, like MOBAs and their many skins. Card games have a little bit of leeway that other games do not because the concept of "packs" come baked into the game model.
It's not really pay to win, but it is pay to have more of the full experience.
I don't know if anyone here plays World of Tanks or World of Warships, but if you ever want to see games with true pay-to-win mechanics, check those out. I love Warships to death, but my . . . GOD . . . those premium ships are expensive and in many cases markedly more powerful.
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Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
I am now considering that those guys are hired spies from wizard, bethesda and other card game creator companies. All of these threads can't be some coincidences.
With every reveal season, the same fucking thread - ohh sorry, tons of the same fucking spamming threads- about costs, shittalking, bla bla.
Please, just stop playing, don't bother other guys who enjoys playing with your silly threads, and turn back to your lifes. If you are bothering so much, why are you here to talk about that. Just go spend your money to your girlfriend/boyfriend, buy some sex toys to yourself or I don't know, you can put your money on the table and worship it. There are so much ways to satisfy from money.
OH NOOOOOOO! I will stop playing hearthstone but I can't be alone to decide it by myself, please don't leave me alone and stop playing hearthstone like how i do!
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players. ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
I am now considering that those guys are hired spies from wizard, bethesda and other card game creator companies. All of these threads can't be some coincidence
I could say a lot about this but the biggest issue is if you are going to reference an article LINK IT!
Till then these numbers are pulled out of your butt with 0 context. I’ve spent 0-30$ an expansion and have always felt like I played whatever deck I wanted.
It still costs a lot less than MTG in real life, I've been trying to get back into it lately and holy crap it's expensive. Spending 30$ on 1 card can get pretty irritating, especially with how cheap HS is in comparison.
Its funny how people assume that I am complaining or trying to push others to stop playing HS. Where in the OP is all this mentioned? all these are just assumptions you are making. I just said it is something to consider. Now I am going to make it easy for you and quote the dictionary because its seems you don't have it at home or forgot you could google it. Consider: think carefully about (something), typically before making a decision.
I am now considering that those guys are hired spies from wizard, bethesda and other card game creator companies. All of these threads can't be some coincidence
No! I am not a spy...but that was LOL!!
We are living in a world with virals.
Even my posts may have virals which i couldn't consider they are virals. Damn world. I hate the world but there is no way out than death. I can't stop living because I don't know what will happen if i die so you are lucky enough. You hate just hearthstone so you can stop playing because you know what will happen if you stop playing.
Thanks so much, Look what You have reminded me !? how awful the world is! Can you see what your silly thread causes me to remind ?
Stop shittalking and just try to enjoy things as how they are like how i am enjoying life as how it is. Humans are known by most intelligent of creatures and still don't know what to do.
And I am suggesting again. Try to do what @IDBY (thanks for her/his adorable comment) suggests ;
The cost of an expansion has more to do with what your expectations and requirements are. It also has to do with your ability to wait.
If you want to play every deck and have every card its going to cost a lot. If you want to play a few of the top decks and have fun the cost is a lot less.
Its possible to save 10k dust between expansions. It takes time and dedication, but its possible. You can also spend money if you dont have the time. Nothing in life is free. If you open 100 packs its possible to play a few top decks and have fun.
Next if you play on a budget you have to be wise in your crafting. You cant rush right after release and craft what may be good. You have to wait for the meta to settle and let others waste dust testing the cards. Then a few weeks into the meta you craft the best. Lastly keeping gold cards is nice if thats what you want. But you are inflating the cost of the game by keeping them. Gold cards have no advantage during play. They just look pretty. If you want to keep cost s down dust gold cards you have the max normal versions of.
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players. ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
Its funny how people assume that I am complaining or trying to push others to stop playing HS. Where in the OP is all this mentioned? all these are just assumptions you are making. I just said it is something to consider. Now I am going to make it easy for you and quote the dictionary because its seems you don't have it at home or forgot you could google it. Consider: think carefully about (something), typically before making a decision.
Consider linking the article. These numbers don’t reflect many people’s experience at all.
Until then I’ll just say HS real cost is 13.35 in Tanzania. Showing work be damned!
It can be pretty expensive. I remember even Firebat saying he couldn't afford to have all cards.
That being said, the game is affordable. I usually only by the 50 pack bundle each expansion and I get everything I want, filling in gaps I need with gold and dust. For me, part of the experience is the balancing and choosing of cards to craft, cards to dust, and which classes I want to prioritize. I've always found that to be part of the fun, but maybe I'm in the minority.
Its funny how people assume that I am complaining or trying to push others to stop playing HS. Where in the OP is all this mentioned? all these are just assumptions you are making. I just said it is something to consider. Now I am going to make it easy for you and quote the dictionary because its seems you don't have it at home or forgot you could google it. Consider: think carefully about (something), typically before making a decision.
Consider linking the article. These numbers don’t reflect many people’s experience at all.
Until then I’ll just say HS real cost is 13.35 in Tanzania. Showing work be damned!
It's not really pay to win, but it is pay to have more of the full experience.
I don't know if anyone here plays World of Tanks or World of Warships, but if you ever want to see games with true pay-to-win mechanics, check those out. I love Warships to death, but my . . . GOD . . . those premium ships are expensive and in many cases markedly more powerful.
To echo what you said here, it all depends on what you want out of the game. Personally, I open 20 packs on release day with gold to have a few cards to mess around with and slowly get more through playing arena. Maybe I will eventually craft a few cards I am missing, but I never have the need to have the best meta deck so I can climb to Legend. As such, I've never spent any money on Hearthstone and don't plan on it, but still continue to have fun with it.
Also, I can vouch for your reference to those World of ____ games. I played World of Tanks for a couple months with my friend and always remember getting destroyed by the tanks that costed like $100. Funny enough, that wasn't the reason I quit though (it was the ridiculous grind to get to the next tank class).
Its funny how people assume that I am complaining or trying to push others to stop playing HS. Where in the OP is all this mentioned? all these are just assumptions you are making. I just said it is something to consider. Now I am going to make it easy for you and quote the dictionary because its seems you don't have it at home or forgot you could google it. Consider: think carefully about (something), typically before making a decision.
Consider linking the article. These numbers don’t reflect many people’s experience at all.
Until then I’ll just say HS real cost is 13.35 in Tanzania. Showing work be damned!
Article is 2 years old. I think K&C was probably the most expensive set in HS history in terms of lots of mandatory rares and legends to succeed.
They are also pretty vague in what exactly they consider ‘cards needed to play the game’. It seems like they want to play every single meta deck the day the expansion drops. For anyone on a budget this is a terrible system.
Compared to other digital CGs, now that there finally is some real competition, HS is just not good value. The rewards for playing are bad and the price of buying the content is high.
We all know that people have started to migrate to other games (like MTGA). The HS devs recently asked how they could tempt people back to the game. Start with the cost.
This is something we really need to consider. Quote from an article:
THE REAL COST OF EACH EXPANSION
It costs about $150 plus all the gold you earn from four months of playing to get most of the good stuff in a Hearthstone expansion, and probably about $200 to get everything in a new set without breaking down your golden cards for dust.
That's a lot of money on a single game every four months. And bear in mind that a good percentage of the cards will be pure crap.
The cost of an expansion has more to do with what your expectations and requirements are. It also has to do with your ability to wait.
If you want to play every deck and have every card its going to cost a lot.
If you want to play a few of the top decks and have fun the cost is a lot less.
Its possible to save 10k dust between expansions. It takes time and dedication, but its possible. You can also spend money if you dont have the time. Nothing in life is free. If you open 100 packs its possible to play a few top decks and have fun.
Next if you play on a budget you have to be wise in your crafting. You cant rush right after release and craft what may be good. You have to wait for the meta to settle and let others waste dust testing the cards. Then a few weeks into the meta you craft the best.
Lastly keeping gold cards is nice if thats what you want. But you are inflating the cost of the game by keeping them. Gold cards have no advantage during play. They just look pretty. If you want to keep cost s down dust gold cards you have the max normal versions of.
If you are in your first year of playing please read this post.
Dust does not burn a hole in the jar. Be careful what you craft, especially before and right after a rotation.
This this this. The entire year of the mammoth I didn’t spend a dime because I was able to save up 6-7K of gold between expansions just by doing dailies and a bit extra from wins. Every expansion last year I opened my packs, disenchanted dupes and sat on my dust for 2 weeks until the meta shook out a bit. I haven’t felt like I’ve missed out on any “good” cards all last year. I also don’t wild so every year I can mass disenchant for big dust gains. Like you said it’s what you expect from the game.
Aaaaaaaand here we go again...
Sigh...
Dude, I'm just going to use the few gold I have (I haven't played Hearthstone too much lately), my arcane dust and play some arena games to get all the cards I would probably need from this expansion. You said it yourself, for God sake: a good porcentage of the cards will be pure crap.
There is really no reason to complain about f...king everything all the time. Let's throw shit at Blizzard when they really deserve it, ok?
I know I've been flippant about it before, but it really comes down to this:
There has to be some incentive to spend money on the game. If you're free to play, it's hard to have everything because they have to create that incentive. Some games manage to keep all the perks aesthetic, like MOBAs and their many skins. Card games have a little bit of leeway that other games do not because the concept of "packs" come baked into the game model.
It's not really pay to win, but it is pay to have more of the full experience.
I don't know if anyone here plays World of Tanks or World of Warships, but if you ever want to see games with true pay-to-win mechanics, check those out. I love Warships to death, but my . . . GOD . . . those premium ships are expensive and in many cases markedly more powerful.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
I am now considering that those guys are hired spies from wizard, bethesda and other card game creator companies. All of these threads can't be some coincidences.
With every reveal season, the same fucking thread - ohh sorry, tons of the same fucking spamming threads- about costs, shittalking, bla bla.
Please, just stop playing, don't bother other guys who enjoys playing with your silly threads, and turn back to your lifes. If you are bothering so much, why are you here to talk about that. Just go spend your money to your girlfriend/boyfriend, buy some sex toys to yourself or I don't know, you can put your money on the table and worship it. There are so much ways to satisfy from money.
OH NOOOOOOO! I will stop playing hearthstone but I can't be alone to decide it by myself, please don't leave me alone and stop playing hearthstone like how i do!
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
No! I am not a spy...but that was LOL!!
smells like broke in here
I could say a lot about this but the biggest issue is if you are going to reference an article LINK IT!
Till then these numbers are pulled out of your butt with 0 context. I’ve spent 0-30$ an expansion and have always felt like I played whatever deck I wanted.
It still costs a lot less than MTG in real life, I've been trying to get back into it lately and holy crap it's expensive. Spending 30$ on 1 card can get pretty irritating, especially with how cheap HS is in comparison.
Its funny how people assume that I am complaining or trying to push others to stop playing HS. Where in the OP is all this mentioned? all these are just assumptions you are making. I just said it is something to consider. Now I am going to make it easy for you and quote the dictionary because its seems you don't have it at home or forgot you could google it. Consider: think carefully about (something), typically before making a decision.
We are living in a world with virals.
Even my posts may have virals which i couldn't consider they are virals. Damn world. I hate the world but there is no way out than death. I can't stop living because I don't know what will happen if i die so you are lucky enough. You hate just hearthstone so you can stop playing because you know what will happen if you stop playing.
Thanks so much, Look what You have reminded me !? how awful the world is! Can you see what your silly thread causes me to remind ?
Stop shittalking and just try to enjoy things as how they are like how i am enjoying life as how it is.
Humans are known by most intelligent of creatures and still don't know what to do.
And I am suggesting again. Try to do what @IDBY (thanks for her/his adorable comment) suggests ;
or stop playing Hearthstone.
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
Consider linking the article. These numbers don’t reflect many people’s experience at all.
Until then I’ll just say HS real cost is 13.35 in Tanzania. Showing work be damned!
It can be pretty expensive. I remember even Firebat saying he couldn't afford to have all cards.
That being said, the game is affordable. I usually only by the 50 pack bundle each expansion and I get everything I want, filling in gaps I need with gold and dust. For me, part of the experience is the balancing and choosing of cards to craft, cards to dust, and which classes I want to prioritize. I've always found that to be part of the fun, but maybe I'm in the minority.
Mmmmmmm.... Shadowy thoughts.
https://www.polygon.com/2017/12/12/16763594/hearthstone-expensive-expansions-cost
You aren't supposed to get everything
To echo what you said here, it all depends on what you want out of the game. Personally, I open 20 packs on release day with gold to have a few cards to mess around with and slowly get more through playing arena. Maybe I will eventually craft a few cards I am missing, but I never have the need to have the best meta deck so I can climb to Legend. As such, I've never spent any money on Hearthstone and don't plan on it, but still continue to have fun with it.
Also, I can vouch for your reference to those World of ____ games. I played World of Tanks for a couple months with my friend and always remember getting destroyed by the tanks that costed like $100. Funny enough, that wasn't the reason I quit though (it was the ridiculous grind to get to the next tank class).
Thank you, a few things to note...
Article is 2 years old. I think K&C was probably the most expensive set in HS history in terms of lots of mandatory rares and legends to succeed.
They are also pretty vague in what exactly they consider ‘cards needed to play the game’. It seems like they want to play every single meta deck the day the expansion drops. For anyone on a budget this is a terrible system.
the time investment required to unlock everything without spending money is unreal
Compared to other digital CGs, now that there finally is some real competition, HS is just not good value. The rewards for playing are bad and the price of buying the content is high.
We all know that people have started to migrate to other games (like MTGA). The HS devs recently asked how they could tempt people back to the game. Start with the cost.