The Hero Skin - 10$ in shop for Hunter/Mage/Warrior
Golden Legendary - could cost you Hundreds of gold to crack one so let’s say 1000 gold
Card Back - typically free or achievement based
so in theory you’re getting around 100$ value for 80$
Maiev, Lunara, Morgl, Arthas, and Liadrin are all Free - So not all hero’s are trapped behind a pay wall
Tyrande - Prime Loot but you could get a free trial which is what I did
Mech Jaraxxus is lame and Sir Annoy is Just bad ..
All of this of course is subject to opinion
My only problem is I don't want to spend a boat load on packs. I know it's to sweeten the deal but if they had offered the hero by herself for 15-20 bucks I would have bought that.
I have no problem with the heroes being payed cosmetic upgrades, just don't like when the only way to get them is attached exclusively to an expensive bundle.
A little more on topic to the OP they never said there would never be free heroes again, just not at launch like the last 2 years.
So, personally I think they should split the hero from the bundle, because I suspect that would result in more buyers. However, this is the exercise they have to go through figuring that out:
You have the bundle for $80, and the included hero sold separately for $10 (hypothetically).
They have to wonder, clearly there will be some people that pay the 10 for the hero who won't pay 80 for the bundle (column A), BUT there are probably other people who would buy the bundle for 80 just for the hero who don't buy the bundle if the hero is offered separately (column B). So for every person in column A, they make $10, but for every person in column B, they lose $70 if they offer the separate sale.
So, column A would have to include more than 7 times the amount of folks in column B in order to make the separate sale smart.
I have no idea how the numbers work out, but apparently they think it's a better way to go with no separate sale.
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OP, are you a masochist? Don't you know the forum is full of fanboys? What did you expect by starting a thread like this one again?
Jesus Christ... Just let the fanboys spend all their money on this game and have their "precious" new priest skin, while we enjoy the rest of the content for free. :D Learn to take advantage of other people's flaws, dude. By doing this you are only showing you are no different than them. ;)
Exactly. I know Sherminator here is being sarcastic, but this is exactly the reality of the situation.
You play a game that you presumably enjoy at no cost to yourself, and you have the nerve to begrudge the people who make the game possible a fucking hero skin? That's not only ridiculous, it's against your self-interest. Assuming of course you actually play the game and not just bitch on forums, in which case we have a whole new box of issues to address.
By the way, if the person who said things like this hero skin "should" be earnable without paying reads this, what value system are you using to arrive at a "should" statement. Who owes who what with regards to a computer game?
I wasn't being sarcastic, but damn, a part of me really feels bad for that post. Sorry for laughing at you people, I really don't know what I was thinking of. Part of me wants me to be a real asshole, and the other wants me to be a nice person, and really, I don't know which one is going to win in the end... I feel like a total edgelord and a fool for admiting this in "public" (well, in an internet forum...), but it's the truth. :P
I have 3 nice heroes for classes I only play(Tyrande, golden Jaina and Gul’dan). I do not play any other classes anymore, thanks to this actually, as I have no wants to spend $ on the game I sometimes have a strong wish to uninstall.
Yup, I've bought every bundle and pre-order in this game up to Boomsday. Ran into some real-life expenses, so can't do it this time, but I think I'll live.
In fairness to all concerned, there's another thread claiming that the priest hero has really shit emotes and animations. I buy these things primarily for the packs, but if you're a skin collector, I suppose that might discourage purchasing a bit.
Haven't seen the animations myself.
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Yup, I've bought every bundle and pre-order in this game up to Boomsday. Ran into some real-life expenses, so can't do it this time, but I think I'll live.
In fairness to all concerned, there's another thread claiming that the priest hero has really shit emotes and animations. I buy these things primarily for the packs, but if you're a skin collector, I suppose that might discourage purchasing a bit.
And where's the official statement? That's just what it seems, but we don't know.
It's also not a surprise they try to "exploit" us more if that's what you're getting at. They are a company and without more people that happily spend money on this game it would cease to exist.
I also would like to have access to everything for free and that they finance everything via crowdfunding. But at least for now that's not how things will go and since you can't really "exploit" with crowdfunding it will also probably never happen.
Interesting how the 50 dollar bundle just comes with a regular legendary this time. Did anyone notice how they said nothing about logging in for a free legendary?
I bet they are going to decide to stop the tradition of giving each player a free legendary from the set whether they buy anything or not.
they already canceled the year of the dragon F2P hero.
I just feel free hero skin should be given at 49.99 range instead of 79.99!
Should be given options for 29.99 and 49.99 instead.
I always buy those pre-orders but 79.99 is getting steep. I have more than enough gold and dust to do anything, i dun really care about the packs, since playing 1 month or so, you can get most of the cards crafted or from gold quest. So 79.99 is almost like just buying for the hero skin.
I knew this was gonna happen. The moment they announced there was no hero reward for the new year I had that gut feeling. But now we got confirmation of it now that we have ANOTHER $80 Mega Bundle with a hero skin locked to it.
None of these are available elsewhere, and now it's clear it's going to continue. We said no to paywalled heroes when they were first announced back in 2015. We didn't buy the $10 heroes, so we got free heroes instead as rewards for doing something, and everyone loved them. But now, the only way we can get hero skins now is by forking over $80 for these preorders. What used to be free rewards we all loved, is now another money grubbing tactic used by Activision.
But hey, do you guys not have $80?!
I love the mega bundle, and still see the hero skin as a “free” bonus. Free in the sense that I would snatch the bundle just for the pack prices!
Got 9k Gold, about 40k Dust, still decided to pay the 80€ for the bundle. I know its expensive, I even consider buying the other bundle too, the solo content and the 10 pack bundle on release. Why? Because I play a lot of Hearthstone, if I compare it to other activities its quite cheap, going out on the weekend would be atleast 50€.. And also, 80€ is like less than one day of working so I am fine with it.
Unlike many other people in this thread, I agree with you. I am a f2p player, who just can't afford 80€ pre-order. The free hero skins were the only way I could've acquired an alternate hero, and I did my best to get as many as I could. However, now that the heroes are being paywalled behind a 80$ pre-order, there is just no way for me to spice up my skin collection. What makes this even worse is that these heroes are available only for limited time (understandable, but still stings). I think a lot of you don't understand the point of the original post. It's not about having to pay for hero skins. It's about the fact, that what used to be a free feature (with the exception of the original three hero skins) now became locked behind a paywall, and not a small one at that. Ever since boomsday we haven't had a free hero skin, and that's a fact. Just because you don't mind spending 80$ for it doesn't mean others don't. Now, I wouldn't have said a thing if they were still releasing f2p heroes along with the paid ones. But the absence of a new year's hero skin sealed the deal for me.
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Right, a critical consumer. What a pain in the ass! We need more people like you who are willing to buy anything. <3
I'm a bit late, but pleeaaase not this again. For the love of god there's no added value to playing with skins.
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Right, a critical consumer. What a pain in the ass! We need more people like you who are willing to buy anything. <3
So, personally I think they should split the hero from the bundle, because I suspect that would result in more buyers. However, this is the exercise they have to go through figuring that out:
You have the bundle for $80, and the included hero sold separately for $10 (hypothetically).
They have to wonder, clearly there will be some people that pay the 10 for the hero who won't pay 80 for the bundle (column A), BUT there are probably other people who would buy the bundle for 80 just for the hero who don't buy the bundle if the hero is offered separately (column B). So for every person in column A, they make $10, but for every person in column B, they lose $70 if they offer the separate sale.
So, column A would have to include more than 7 times the amount of folks in column B in order to make the separate sale smart.
I have no idea how the numbers work out, but apparently they think it's a better way to go with no separate sale.
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
It's a bit sad, but ok.
Also, so far the vast majority of alt Heroes are not interesting at all for me. (I only use Lunara because her artwork is beautiful).
I'd rather have a restyle of old Heroes.
Why are you expecting to get free cosmetics?
If its too expensive for You, just dont buy it problem solved.
Best card in HS? Mastercard.
I'd pay anyday, especially in nice bundles rather than have exclusive heroes for certain countries (Tyrande, Khadgar).
I wasn't being sarcastic, but damn, a part of me really feels bad for that post. Sorry for laughing at you people, I really don't know what I was thinking of. Part of me wants me to be a real asshole, and the other wants me to be a nice person, and really, I don't know which one is going to win in the end... I feel like a total edgelord and a fool for admiting this in "public" (well, in an internet forum...), but it's the truth. :P
Again, sorry... :(
I have 3 nice heroes for classes I only play(Tyrande, golden Jaina and Gul’dan). I do not play any other classes anymore, thanks to this actually, as I have no wants to spend $ on the game I sometimes have a strong wish to uninstall.
Yup, I've bought every bundle and pre-order in this game up to Boomsday. Ran into some real-life expenses, so can't do it this time, but I think I'll live.
In fairness to all concerned, there's another thread claiming that the priest hero has really shit emotes and animations. I buy these things primarily for the packs, but if you're a skin collector, I suppose that might discourage purchasing a bit.
Haven't seen the animations myself.
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
The emotes are good IMO.
And where's the official statement? That's just what it seems, but we don't know.
It's also not a surprise they try to "exploit" us more if that's what you're getting at. They are a company and without more people that happily spend money on this game it would cease to exist.
I also would like to have access to everything for free and that they finance everything via crowdfunding. But at least for now that's not how things will go and since you can't really "exploit" with crowdfunding it will also probably never happen.
Interesting how the 50 dollar bundle just comes with a regular legendary this time. Did anyone notice how they said nothing about logging in for a free legendary?
I bet they are going to decide to stop the tradition of giving each player a free legendary from the set whether they buy anything or not.
they already canceled the year of the dragon F2P hero.
sad days for F2P ahead.
I just feel free hero skin should be given at 49.99 range instead of 79.99!
Should be given options for 29.99 and 49.99 instead.
I always buy those pre-orders but 79.99 is getting steep. I have more than enough gold and dust to do anything, i dun really care about the packs, since playing 1 month or so, you can get most of the cards crafted or from gold quest. So 79.99 is almost like just buying for the hero skin.
I love the mega bundle, and still see the hero skin as a “free” bonus. Free in the sense that I would snatch the bundle just for the pack prices!
Personally I think the hero should be available with either option, but what can you do.
Edit: It's not like the hero effects gameplay at all.
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Got 9k Gold, about 40k Dust, still decided to pay the 80€ for the bundle. I know its expensive, I even consider buying the other bundle too, the solo content and the 10 pack bundle on release. Why? Because I play a lot of Hearthstone, if I compare it to other activities its quite cheap, going out on the weekend would be atleast 50€.. And also, 80€ is like less than one day of working so I am fine with it.
Unlike many other people in this thread, I agree with you. I am a f2p player, who just can't afford 80€ pre-order. The free hero skins were the only way I could've acquired an alternate hero, and I did my best to get as many as I could. However, now that the heroes are being paywalled behind a 80$ pre-order, there is just no way for me to spice up my skin collection. What makes this even worse is that these heroes are available only for limited time (understandable, but still stings). I think a lot of you don't understand the point of the original post. It's not about having to pay for hero skins. It's about the fact, that what used to be a free feature (with the exception of the original three hero skins) now became locked behind a paywall, and not a small one at that. Ever since boomsday we haven't had a free hero skin, and that's a fact. Just because you don't mind spending 80$ for it doesn't mean others don't. Now, I wouldn't have said a thing if they were still releasing f2p heroes along with the paid ones. But the absence of a new year's hero skin sealed the deal for me.