Control mage is one of my favorite decks and the Lich King is the best drops 8 of late game but they had their time to shine in standard in their respective expansion. Standard must be renewed without abusing the same cards. That's why it's wild where they'll meet old friends and do the best in their respective old decks and synergies. Together with my other wild minions we have had incredible experiences, both bad experiences but when facing off against other types of decks it is a pleasure to see the variety. (Jaina is my crush)
With all due respect but .......... who I want to cheat, I respect Frost Lich Jaina and The Lich King but the creator of this thread does not deserve to be respected.
We had pizza yesterday, so...pizza? The sad thing about the Dks is how much builds crutch on them. It will be nice to get our game back in the post-Brode era.
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Okay, this is just getting to be a repetitive echo chamber now. And the echoed sentiment isn't wrong, but you guys are just beating a dead horse at this point.
"The only card that deserves to stay is Whizbang when it's time comes."
In the interest of promoting discussion that isn't just the same thing over and over and over again, I'm not actually sure I agree with this, what with the classic set slowly getting nerfed and hall of famed into oblivion here. I don't really think this is an issue that needs to be addressed right NOW, but over time, the more damage they do to that set, eventually we're just going to need some new cards to fill in the gaps left behind by the Tyrions and Malygoses and MCTs and Hyenas or whatever that we can't play anymore, and I'd be in favor of looking to bringing certain cards back as Classic cards to "un-nerf" the Classic set and give us a little more things we can always count on existing.
Now, granted, those cards shouldn't be Lich King or Death Knights, I'm thinking more along the lines of, let's say, Plated Beetle here. Nothing ridiculous, just this good, super reliable 2-drop card you can always count on.
And granted, you could say a core set would be a better solution to this problem, and maybe you'd be right, but as long as they were very careful about which cards are okay to add to the classic set as more get nerfed into the ground or removed entirely, I feel this is a solution that works just as well, if not better.
If I consider my decks my later decks I don't run lk in many of them. Reason? Unreliable. I don't want to get frostmourne in my thief rogou. 5/3? I have 10/10 lifesteal cutlass +. Army of the dead ? No thank you I have mostly battlecry minions and spells. doom pact is bad usually. Best cards are death grip and death and decay . Obliterate and coil are decent. But while bad cards exist I don't want run him unless I have a way to free my hand from the bad cards
OMG Jaina can't die soon enough. She's even more unfun to play against than DK Rexxar. Like Rexxar she draaaags game out interminably until you just concede because you can't bear it anymore. I hope the never, ever, EVER make a card like her again. RIP in pieces.
It would be kinda cool in theory if they kept a few of the DKs around though and rotated them only once their class has a new playable hero. They'd have to give Mage and Warlock new ones in the coming expansion and then Priest, Paladin, Rogue, and Druid could keep theirs until the get new ones.
Anyone who would sign this petition would be out of his mind.
Trump was invited to Blizzard and already saw upcoming cards, and he said that we probably never again will have cards sheer endless value ( and that also counts for Jaina with her Waterelemental and endless heal for almost free) . Even Iksar said those cards are fun for a lot of people ( when he talked about DK Rexxar) but are also way too impactful, and not what Hearthstone is about in general.
FL Jaina is my least favorite card in standard, followed closely by DK Rexxar. Good riddance to both. You can throw these into any deck and then play them to completely change you're deck's style and win a game your deck was not designed to win. No card should be that powerful.
As to Lich King, he's straight up over creep over Ysera. Better stats, cheaper, better cards generated. Hopefully next expansion continues to lower power levels back down so maybe people will play cards like Ysera gain.
I have won pratically 2000 games with Jaina on ranked. Ive used a lot more than that.
I know by a fact Jaina can be bothersome but not everytime. Far from it. And you should definie "opressive". A card that makes the opponent unable to play? A card that is basically an insta win? She is none of that. I know Mage's weaknesses and strenghts. Mage lost ice block, and for survivability she only has the Arcane elemental and lich Jaina herself.
The card itself also has counter ability play. I've won plenty against and lost using her. Obviously in a card game you will have the advantage in some games than others but thats is what it is. She is not opressive at all.
I won games against Jade Druid when I used Skulking Geist bro, let's bring Jade Idol back to improve Druid's Classic set, it's not oppressive at all.... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ °)
Control mage is one of my favorite decks and the Lich King is the best drops 8 of late game but they had their time to shine in standard in their respective expansion. Standard must be renewed without abusing the same cards. That's why it's wild where they'll meet old friends and do the best in their respective old decks and synergies. Together with my other wild minions we have had incredible experiences, both bad experiences but when facing off against other types of decks it is a pleasure to see the variety.
(Jaina is my crush)
With all due respect but .......... who I want to cheat, I respect Frost Lich Jaina and The Lich King but the creator of this thread does not deserve to be respected.
You can play Ragnaros and Hex Lord Malacrass instead in Control Mage.
No.
New cards will replace them in Standard, and they are more than viable in Wild if you miss them too much.
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No. Keep theses cards in wild
I’m throwing a party when DK Jaina leaves.
Get rid of The Lich King. It is time for the Ironbark Protector to shine again.
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We had pizza yesterday, so...pizza? The sad thing about the Dks is how much builds crutch on them. It will be nice to get our game back in the post-Brode era.
Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
This thread is non-sense. If you want to play with those cards, play WILD.
What's the issue ?
Okay, this is just getting to be a repetitive echo chamber now. And the echoed sentiment isn't wrong, but you guys are just beating a dead horse at this point.
Can we just lock this and move on with our lives?
why dont you just post the petition and see whos agree with you?
personally i think all DK needs to rotate, except DK shaman because it is underpowered :)
lich king? also no
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There is no logical reason for this. The only card that deserves to stay is Whizbang when it's time comes.
Audaces fortuna juvat.
"The only card that deserves to stay is Whizbang when it's time comes."
In the interest of promoting discussion that isn't just the same thing over and over and over again, I'm not actually sure I agree with this, what with the classic set slowly getting nerfed and hall of famed into oblivion here. I don't really think this is an issue that needs to be addressed right NOW, but over time, the more damage they do to that set, eventually we're just going to need some new cards to fill in the gaps left behind by the Tyrions and Malygoses and MCTs and Hyenas or whatever that we can't play anymore, and I'd be in favor of looking to bringing certain cards back as Classic cards to "un-nerf" the Classic set and give us a little more things we can always count on existing.
Now, granted, those cards shouldn't be Lich King or Death Knights, I'm thinking more along the lines of, let's say, Plated Beetle here. Nothing ridiculous, just this good, super reliable 2-drop card you can always count on.
And granted, you could say a core set would be a better solution to this problem, and maybe you'd be right, but as long as they were very careful about which cards are okay to add to the classic set as more get nerfed into the ground or removed entirely, I feel this is a solution that works just as well, if not better.
Make the petition yourself.. But i will not sign it, no way. If you want those cards, play wild.
I do what I must, when I must. Know this well.
If I consider my decks my later decks I don't run lk in many of them. Reason? Unreliable. I don't want to get frostmourne in my thief rogou. 5/3? I have 10/10 lifesteal cutlass +. Army of the dead ? No thank you I have mostly battlecry minions and spells. doom pact is bad usually. Best cards are death grip and death and decay . Obliterate and coil are decent. But while bad cards exist I don't want run him unless I have a way to free my hand from the bad cards
OMG Jaina can't die soon enough. She's even more unfun to play against than DK Rexxar. Like Rexxar she draaaags game out interminably until you just concede because you can't bear it anymore. I hope the never, ever, EVER make a card like her again. RIP in pieces.
It would be kinda cool in theory if they kept a few of the DKs around though and rotated them only once their class has a new playable hero. They'd have to give Mage and Warlock new ones in the coming expansion and then Priest, Paladin, Rogue, and Druid could keep theirs until the get new ones.
Anyone who would sign this petition would be out of his mind.
Trump was invited to Blizzard and already saw upcoming cards, and he said that we probably never again will have cards sheer endless value ( and that also counts for Jaina with her Waterelemental and endless heal for almost free) . Even Iksar said those cards are fun for a lot of people ( when he talked about DK Rexxar) but are also way too impactful, and not what Hearthstone is about in general.
Please no. I want FL Jaina to burn in Hell. Can't wait for the card to rotate.
FL Jaina is my least favorite card in standard, followed closely by DK Rexxar. Good riddance to both. You can throw these into any deck and then play them to completely change you're deck's style and win a game your deck was not designed to win. No card should be that powerful.
As to Lich King, he's straight up over creep over Ysera. Better stats, cheaper, better cards generated. Hopefully next expansion continues to lower power levels back down so maybe people will play cards like Ysera gain.
It is the year of the dragon after all. MYGA.
I won games against Jade Druid when I used Skulking Geist bro, let's bring Jade Idol back to improve Druid's Classic set, it's not oppressive at all.... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ °)