As sad as i am to see jaina go to wild (she's my favourite card ever printed and the single reason i'm going ti wild as well) i know keeping her in standard would only bring more hate towards that card from the idio....not so mentally gifted people that Say She gives infinite value,well Guess what:alongside the other DK's (exept maybe rexxar) She does not,Jade druid was/Is infinite NOT jaina/guldan and others...i Hope Anyone Who reads this Will understand why they're wrong
For lich king he would 99% share the same fate as rag
Jaina does not generate infinite value? Are you out of your mind? You can literally generate infinite Water Elementals if you're not a complete moron and they also heal you up. If that's not infinite value I don't know what it is.
For the regards of Jade Idol, just because there are better cards at generating infinite value, it doesn't mean they are the only ones that can be addressed that way. Moreover, Skulking Geist, as clunky as he is, exists, alongside with other stuff (Azari, the Devourer, King Togwaggle,...), while there is absolutely no counter to a 9 mana Hero Card.
Saying that Jaina is not an infinite value cards is equal to covering your eyes with your hands and pretending not to see the reality.
Well then:
1 Anyone with half of a functioning brain can play around the mage getting water elementals every turn,Also the amounts of 3/6's you can make Is LIMITED (Guess what,there IS a limit) by how many Minions there are in both decks,moreover you can't ping and empty board....Just sayin
So now tell me she generates infinite value again so i know i am talking to a moron
As the mage player : no you can't play around the mage getting water elemental every turn. Maybe from time to time, but not most of the time.
Play a 3 health minion? Blizzard + ping
4 health? meteore + ping
5 health?Flamestrike + ping
7 health? dragonfire (which usualy will get a 6) + ping
8 or more? then just voodo doll/polymorph + ping
And because I'm an ass : 2 health? Dragonmaw Scorcher +ping (it's not core, but I play it in my deck so it counts)
Play nothing? well sindragosa + ping (or thalnos or loot hoarder ) (or just take the opportunity to play alana)
The only weird one to hit is a 6 health minion (like water ele), which are surprisingly rare and usualy not enough of a threat.
A good big spell mage player will also set up 2 health minion on his own board to 1 health (if they can do it safely) to force out a removal before it turns into another water ele (like ravencaller)
I never said EVERY TIME,but you can surely try to minimize the amounts,but anyway the point was that,yes there are a Number of ways for the mage to ping and kill stuff,but the Total amount Is fking limited,that seems to not get through to people without the Mental capability to count higher than 12
technically, it is limited.
but the point is, the mage player will keep on getting elementals for the rest of the game, and so it might as well be unlimited.
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As sad as i am to see jaina go to wild (she's my favourite card ever printed and the single reason i'm going ti wild as well) i know keeping her in standard would only bring more hate towards that card from the idio....not so mentally gifted people that Say She gives infinite value,well Guess what:alongside the other DK's (exept maybe rexxar) She does not,Jade druid was/Is infinite NOT jaina/guldan and others...i Hope Anyone Who reads this Will understand why they're wrong
For lich king he would 99% share the same fate as rag
Jaina does not generate infinite value? Are you out of your mind? You can literally generate infinite Water Elementals if you're not a complete moron and they also heal you up. If that's not infinite value I don't know what it is.
For the regards of Jade Idol, just because there are better cards at generating infinite value, it doesn't mean they are the only ones that can be addressed that way. Moreover, Skulking Geist, as clunky as he is, exists, alongside with other stuff (Azari, the Devourer, King Togwaggle,...), while there is absolutely no counter to a 9 mana Hero Card.
Saying that Jaina is not an infinite value cards is equal to covering your eyes with your hands and pretending not to see the reality.
Well then:
1 Anyone with half of a functioning brain can play around the mage getting water elementals every turn,Also the amounts of 3/6's you can make Is LIMITED (Guess what,there IS a limit) by how many Minions there are in both decks,moreover you can't ping and empty board....Just sayin
So now tell me she generates infinite value again so i know i am talking to a moron
She does generate infinite value dude.
The amounts of 3/6's you can make Is LIMITED (Guess what,there IS a limit) by how many Minions there are in both decks
You can also ping your own Water Elementals after a trade, you know? Potentially, as every other infinite value generator card, you can go infinite as long as you take advantage of the opportunities you have and you're smart enough to read what your opponent will do.
You can play around the mage getting Water Elementals, but that just means that you do less than half the job because, guess what, your opponent also plays cards and, guess again, those are chose in order to create a synergy with Jaina (Voodoo Doll in primis).
You can call me a moron if you'd like (don't really care much since I don't know you and so you're just a number in my screen) and you can keep thinking what you prefer, but that how the things are. Even the f... developers said it some days ago.
Jaina has to be a joke right? Or you envisioned a single insanely powerful death knight staying in standard, and the reasoning is "it's your favorite" lol...
As sad as i am to see jaina go to wild (she's my favourite card ever printed and the single reason i'm going ti wild as well) i know keeping her in standard would only bring more hate towards that card from the idio....not so mentally gifted people that Say She gives infinite value,well Guess what:alongside the other DK's (exept maybe rexxar) She does not,Jade druid was/Is infinite NOT jaina/guldan and others...i Hope Anyone Who reads this Will understand why they're wrong
For lich king he would 99% share the same fate as rag
Jaina does not generate infinite value? Are you out of your mind? You can literally generate infinite Water Elementals if you're not a complete moron and they also heal you up. If that's not infinite value I don't know what it is.
For the regards of Jade Idol, just because there are better cards at generating infinite value, it doesn't mean they are the only ones that can be addressed that way. Moreover, Skulking Geist, as clunky as he is, exists, alongside with other stuff (Azari, the Devourer, King Togwaggle,...), while there is absolutely no counter to a 9 mana Hero Card.
Saying that Jaina is not an infinite value cards is equal to covering your eyes with your hands and pretending not to see the reality.
Well then:
1 Anyone with half of a functioning brain can play around the mage getting water elementals every turn,Also the amounts of 3/6's you can make Is LIMITED (Guess what,there IS a limit) by how many Minions there are in both decks,moreover you can't ping and empty board....Just sayin
So now tell me she generates infinite value again so i know i am talking to a moron
As the mage player : no you can't play around the mage getting water elemental every turn. Maybe from time to time, but not most of the time.
Play a 3 health minion? Blizzard + ping
4 health? meteore + ping
5 health?Flamestrike + ping
7 health? dragonfire (which usualy will get a 6) + ping
8 or more? then just voodo doll/polymorph + ping
And because I'm an ass : 2 health? Dragonmaw Scorcher +ping (it's not core, but I play it in my deck so it counts)
Play nothing? well sindragosa + ping (or thalnos or loot hoarder ) (or just take the opportunity to play alana)
The only weird one to hit is a 6 health minion (like water ele), which are surprisingly rare and usualy not enough of a threat.
A good big spell mage player will also set up 2 health minion on his own board to 1 health (if they can do it safely) to force out a removal before it turns into another water ele (like ravencaller)
I never said EVERY TIME,but you can surely try to minimize the amounts,but anyway the point was that,yes there are a Number of ways for the mage to ping and kill stuff,but the Total amount Is fking limited,that seems to not get through to people without the Mental capability to count higher than 12
technically, it is limited.
but the point is, the mage player will keep on getting elementals for the rest of the game, and so it might as well be unlimited.
Nope,you very easlily (not no Easy but possibile) run jaina "out of pings"
yea i dont think either of those cards have a shot to be in the classic set. Lich King probably has more of a chance, but even then the chance is like 5% lol
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Frost Lich Jaina is a personal choice of mine (i know you have yours). I do know some people, for some reason, hate this card because she can out value in late game. Although there are plenty of away to go around it... I think this card is the perfect control card for Mage. Im really going to miss this one...
Lich King is just... Lich King. He deserves a place on classic set. He is useful and can be clutch..
If FL Jaina was in the classic set, it would become a pretty much auto-include in every Mage deck (it currently is already). That severely limits design scope for future expansions, unfortunately. And that sort of power (for classic set) is something that Blizzard are already trying to remove where possible - hence the hall of fame.
I dislike Lich Jaina so much, and to only have her and no other DKs? That makes no sense. Lich King would be nice, but he is technically a Frozen Throne staple, so it makes sense to put him in that expac. Just go play wild if you love the cards so much
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As sad as i am to see jaina go to wild (she's my favourite card ever printed and the single reason i'm going ti wild as well) i know keeping her in standard would only bring more hate towards that card from the idio....not so mentally gifted people that Say She gives infinite value,well Guess what:alongside the other DK's (exept maybe rexxar) She does not,Jade druid was/Is infinite NOT jaina/guldan and others...i Hope Anyone Who reads this Will understand why they're wrong
For lich king he would 99% share the same fate as rag
DK Jaina and DK Guldan is almost as bad as Jade Idol. Lich King is fine.
As sad as i am to see jaina go to wild (she's my favourite card ever printed and the single reason i'm going ti wild as well) i know keeping her in standard would only bring more hate towards that card from the idio....not so mentally gifted people that Say She gives infinite value,well Guess what:alongside the other DK's (exept maybe rexxar) She does not,Jade druid was/Is infinite NOT jaina/guldan and others...i Hope Anyone Who reads this Will understand why they're wrong
For lich king he would 99% share the same fate as rag
DK Jaina and DK Guldan is almost as bad as Jade Idol. Lich King is fine.
If you can't play aroud them,maybe
If you can use even a slight Little bit of the brain i'm sure you have beneath all this nonsensical hatred that probably comes out of pure laziness you Will realize that dk jaina/guldan CAN be run out of steam(i actually very often do with Priest, Warrior,shaman or mage) all you Need Is using that thing called brain for more than half a millisecond
For jade druid there IS only skulking geist to (maybe) save you
Frost Lich Jaina is a personal choice of mine (i know you have yours). I do know some people, for some reason, hate this card because she can out value in late game. Although there are plenty of away to go around it... I think this card is the perfect control card for Mage. Im really going to miss this one...
Lich King is just... Lich King. He deserves a place on classic set. He is useful and can be clutch..
Are you high? FLJ staying in Standard would break the game. There's no hero card to stand up to her once the other DKs rotate. The only thing better than her even right now is Bloodreaver or a really lucky Deathstalker. That's insane. Do you want Hearthstone to stay polarized and depressing?
As sad as i am to see jaina go to wild (she's my favourite card ever printed and the single reason i'm going ti wild as well) i know keeping her in standard would only bring more hate towards that card from the idio....not so mentally gifted people that Say She gives infinite value,well Guess what:alongside the other DK's (exept maybe rexxar) She does not,Jade druid was/Is infinite NOT jaina/guldan and others...i Hope Anyone Who reads this Will understand why they're wrong
For lich king he would 99% share the same fate as rag
Jaina does not generate infinite value? Are you out of your mind? You can literally generate infinite Water Elementals if you're not a complete moron and they also heal you up. If that's not infinite value I don't know what it is.
For the regards of Jade Idol, just because there are better cards at generating infinite value, it doesn't mean they are the only ones that can be addressed that way. Moreover, Skulking Geist, as clunky as he is, exists, alongside with other stuff (Azari, the Devourer, King Togwaggle,...), while there is absolutely no counter to a 9 mana Hero Card.
Saying that Jaina is not an infinite value cards is equal to covering your eyes with your hands and pretending not to see the reality.
Well then:
1 Anyone with half of a functioning brain can play around the mage getting water elementals every turn,Also the amounts of 3/6's you can make Is LIMITED (Guess what,there IS a limit) by how many Minions there are in both decks,moreover you can't ping and empty board....Just sayin
So now tell me she generates infinite value again so i know i am talking to a moron
It's virtually impossible to play around when half the deck is removal of various types, from voodoo doll to meteor. You know that, don't pretend you don't.
JAINA? DID YOU EVEN PLAY SOMETHING ELSE THAN MAGE THIS TWO YEARS? Its dk i hate most. It punishes you for playing. I hope I wont ever see this card in wild again. As when its played soon, its literarry auto lose.
I agree with LK but every deck would play him since Raven's cards are all shit expect few.
I can see Lich King yeah, he's a classic and legendary boss lore wise and is just badass.
but FUCK frost bitch jaina, she is the SOLE reason why I auto concede against mage's. "O hey I see you just did 22 damage to me and your about to win, would be a shame if I recovered all my health and continuously spawn more minions that heal me every turn" She's the sole reason why I play otk decks.
technically, it is limited.
but the point is, the mage player will keep on getting elementals for the rest of the game, and so it might as well be unlimited.
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I agree with you
She does generate infinite value dude.
You can also ping your own Water Elementals after a trade, you know? Potentially, as every other infinite value generator card, you can go infinite as long as you take advantage of the opportunities you have and you're smart enough to read what your opponent will do.
You can play around the mage getting Water Elementals, but that just means that you do less than half the job because, guess what, your opponent also plays cards and, guess again, those are chose in order to create a synergy with Jaina (Voodoo Doll in primis).
You can call me a moron if you'd like (don't really care much since I don't know you and so you're just a number in my screen) and you can keep thinking what you prefer, but that how the things are. Even the f... developers said it some days ago.
Jaina NO WAY! TOO OP!
Lich… well… maybe.
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Jaina has to be a joke right? Or you envisioned a single insanely powerful death knight staying in standard, and the reasoning is "it's your favorite" lol...
Nope,you very easlily (not no Easy but possibile) run jaina "out of pings"
I like the idea of moving cards to classic, but I definitely don't think that any class should have a hero card in classic
yea i dont think either of those cards have a shot to be in the classic set. Lich King probably has more of a chance, but even then the chance is like 5% lol
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No thank you.
If FL Jaina was in the classic set, it would become a pretty much auto-include in every Mage deck (it currently is already).
That severely limits design scope for future expansions, unfortunately.
And that sort of power (for classic set) is something that Blizzard are already trying to remove where possible - hence the hall of fame.
Have lich king forever be able to provide bad players with a win condition? No thanks
I dislike Lich Jaina so much, and to only have her and no other DKs? That makes no sense. Lich King would be nice, but he is technically a Frozen Throne staple, so it makes sense to put him in that expac. Just go play wild if you love the cards so much
"In a world without gold, we might have been heroes!" - Blackbeard, AC4
DK Jaina and DK Guldan is almost as bad as Jade Idol. Lich King is fine.
If you can't play aroud them,maybe
If you can use even a slight Little bit of the brain i'm sure you have beneath all this nonsensical hatred that probably comes out of pure laziness you Will realize that dk jaina/guldan CAN be run out of steam(i actually very often do with Priest, Warrior,shaman or mage) all you Need Is using that thing called brain for more than half a millisecond
For jade druid there IS only skulking geist to (maybe) save you
Are you high? FLJ staying in Standard would break the game. There's no hero card to stand up to her once the other DKs rotate. The only thing better than her even right now is Bloodreaver or a really lucky Deathstalker. That's insane. Do you want Hearthstone to stay polarized and depressing?
It's virtually impossible to play around when half the deck is removal of various types, from voodoo doll to meteor. You know that, don't pretend you don't.
JAINA? DID YOU EVEN PLAY SOMETHING ELSE THAN MAGE THIS TWO YEARS? Its dk i hate most. It punishes you for playing. I hope I wont ever see this card in wild again. As when its played soon, its literarry auto lose.
I agree with LK but every deck would play him since Raven's cards are all shit expect few.
Lets not, i'm done hoping my opponent doesn't have a jaina of 9.
I can see Lich King yeah, he's a classic and legendary boss lore wise and is just badass.
but FUCK frost bitch jaina, she is the SOLE reason why I auto concede against mage's. "O hey I see you just did 22 damage to me and your about to win, would be a shame if I recovered all my health and continuously spawn more minions that heal me every turn" She's the sole reason why I play otk decks.
I already hate the OP for even suggesting that Frost Lich Jaina be moved to the Classic set. Screw you, whoever you are.
The Lich King in the classic set is intriguing, but as others have mentioned before me, infinite value cards aren't good for the game.