Hey guys, I wanted to ask for some opinions and share my own thoughts about the current standard meta. I feel like not many people are very interested in standard right now and everyone is waiting for the year of the dragon. But to my surprise i found myself enjoing ladder very much since the second nerf wave!
With deathrattle rogue, different variants of odd mage and wall priest, 3 new decks have become viable and shook up the meta. No one class is dominating the ladder, OTK has calmed down (druid and otk pally are both off meta in my opinion) and the aggro decks can be reasonably countered by warriors and priests. There are not many polarizing matchups and RNG is no real issue either. Comparing this to older metas, i fail to find many reasons to complain. Have people forgotten about the pirate warrior days? Totem golem into 4 mana 7/7? Quest rogue? So now that the Genn/Baku problem will soon be adressed, where lies the problem?
I think we all should give Blizzard some more credit for what they are trying to do! Change is good for the game and the second nerf patch was something realy positive but rather overlooked in my opinion.
My opinion : I feel the meta (as often is the case at this time in a season) has become pretty stale. Pretty much every deck archetype strategy has been attempted to varying degrees of success.
The decks currently sitting in the top tier are pretty boring and there's very little diversity in ranked ladder currently. Season fatigue has set in for most people, so the prospect of a new season with a comlpetely shaken up card pool and set of decks is a welcome and overdue change.
Better to start to forget everything about the year of the raven and pretend it never happened. No one really cares about the year of the failure anymore. ;) F...k this meta!
I completely agree with everything OP said. I would even go further and say that the "Genn and Baku problem" has already been solved, as no decks using these cards feels oppressive. It seems like they've decided to all of fame them to free up design space rather than to balance the meta. As it is, it feels nicely balanced and leaves quite some room for experimentation. As you said, quite a few new decks that have risen to prominence or even been created recently have found success. And you can have fun, I feel, without being punished for it. For instance, I went from 5 to 3 with a Snowfury Giant/Spirit of the frog Shaman which certainly isn't in any tier list. So yes, Blizzard should surely be credited for their recent work...
Sadly though, and as the few answers to your post quite blatantly show, the community is full of netdecking and lazy players that play whatever is on top of the tier lists and then complain when the list starts looking roughly the same for several weeks in a row. Its a shame, really. I feel that Hearthstone as a game is under appreciated because players behave like sheep and then complain its all the same.
I completely agree with everything OP said. I would even go further and say that the "Genn and Baku problem" has already been solved, as no decks using these cards feels oppressive. It seems like they've decided to all of fame them to free up design space rather than to balance the meta. As it is, it feels nicely balanced and leaves quite some room for experimentation. As you said, quite a few new decks that have risen to prominence or even been created recently have found success. And you can have fun, I feel, without being punished for it. For instance, I went from 5 to 3 with a Snowfury Giant/Spirit of the frog Shaman which certainly isn't in any tier list. So yes, Blizzard should surely be credited for their recent work...
Sadly though, and as the few answers to your post quite blatantly show, the community is full of netdecking and lazy players that play whatever is on top of the tier lists and then complain when the list starts looking roughly the same for several weeks in a row. Its a shame, really. I feel that Hearthstone as a game is under appreciated because players behave like sheep and then complain its all the same.
Yeah, but they were "solved" by massive nerfs targeting decks that used genn/baku. Not exactly ideal..
I think we all should give Blizzard some more credit for what they are trying to do! Change is good for the game and the second nerf patch was something realy positive but rather overlooked in my opinion.
I've lost about 14k dust, which I spent on the decks, that became unplayable because of the unexpected nerfs, so no, fuck Bli$$ard. Nerfs were awful. People lost a lot of dust.
Better to start to forget everything about the year of the raven and pretend it never happened. No one really cares about the year of the failure anymore. ;) F...k this meta!
The year as a span of time: sure. The year as a set of expansions: we'll decide that at the end of the year of the dragon. I suspect when the rotation comes it will be like having 4 new expansions to play with and it is very possible the raven sets matter a lot. If so, it will not have been a failure at all, but a necessary step away from rampant power creep.
Better to start to forget everything about the year of the raven and pretend it never happened. No one really cares about the year of the failure anymore. ;) F...k this meta!
The year as a span of time: sure. The year as a set of expansions: we'll decide that at the end of the year of the dragon. I suspect when the rotation comes it will be like having 4 new expansions to play with and it is very possible the raven sets matter a lot. If so, it will not have been a failure at all, but a necessary step away from rampant power creep.
Yeah, I was referring to the year only as a span of time. Sorry for not making that 100% clear, hehe. :P
I think we all should give Blizzard some more credit for what they are trying to do! Change is good for the game and the second nerf patch was something realy positive but rather overlooked in my opinion.
I've lost about 14k dust, which I spent on the decks, that became unplayable because of the unexpected nerfs, so no, fuck Bli$$ard. Nerfs were awful. People lost a lot of dust.
U enjoyed it for a year and will have it for wild. Plus its a card game band nerfs can happen out of the blue. If u think everything is written in stone then u should learn about the tale of how wild came to be and how a shitstorm brew in the HS community
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Hey guys,
I wanted to ask for some opinions and share my own thoughts about the current standard meta. I feel like not many people are very interested in standard right now and everyone is waiting for the year of the dragon. But to my surprise i found myself enjoing ladder very much since the second nerf wave!
With deathrattle rogue, different variants of odd mage and wall priest, 3 new decks have become viable and shook up the meta.
No one class is dominating the ladder, OTK has calmed down (druid and otk pally are both off meta in my opinion) and the aggro decks can be reasonably countered by warriors and priests. There are not many polarizing matchups and RNG is no real issue either.
Comparing this to older metas, i fail to find many reasons to complain. Have people forgotten about the pirate warrior days? Totem golem into 4 mana 7/7? Quest rogue?
So now that the Genn/Baku problem will soon be adressed, where lies the problem?
I think we all should give Blizzard some more credit for what they are trying to do! Change is good for the game and the second nerf patch was something realy positive but rather overlooked in my opinion.
My opinion :
I feel the meta (as often is the case at this time in a season) has become pretty stale.
Pretty much every deck archetype strategy has been attempted to varying degrees of success.
The decks currently sitting in the top tier are pretty boring and there's very little diversity in ranked ladder currently.
Season fatigue has set in for most people, so the prospect of a new season with a comlpetely shaken up card pool and set of decks is a welcome and overdue change.
Better to start to forget everything about the year of the raven and pretend it never happened. No one really cares about the year of the failure anymore. ;) F...k this meta!
Yeah, but they were "solved" by massive nerfs targeting decks that used genn/baku. Not exactly ideal..
S39 Legend - Quest Rogue, S38 Legend - Murloc Paladin, S37 Legend - Miracle Rogue, S36 Top 200 Legend - Aggro Shaman, S35 - Finished Rank 51 Legend - Aggro Shaman, S34 Legend - Aggro Shaman
I've lost about 14k dust, which I spent on the decks, that became unplayable because of the unexpected nerfs, so no, fuck Bli$$ard. Nerfs were awful. People lost a lot of dust.
The year as a span of time: sure. The year as a set of expansions: we'll decide that at the end of the year of the dragon. I suspect when the rotation comes it will be like having 4 new expansions to play with and it is very possible the raven sets matter a lot. If so, it will not have been a failure at all, but a necessary step away from rampant power creep.
Yeah, I was referring to the year only as a span of time. Sorry for not making that 100% clear, hehe. :P
U enjoyed it for a year and will have it for wild. Plus its a card game band nerfs can happen out of the blue. If u think everything is written in stone then u should learn about the tale of how wild came to be and how a shitstorm brew in the HS community