First wing is free no one can complain about free and it should still reward 3 packs 300g value.
The next 4 wings cost 700g each or 2800g total.
Each wing will reward 3 packs for a value of 300g each or 1200g total value.
If you buy and complete all wings you get a golden classic pack and a golden legendary. How much gold this is worth depends on if you care about golden cards or not. It is worth at least 100g plus a legendary card.
So if you take what you earn in rewards and take that out of the cost your spending a total of 1500g for the ability to play solo content and a golden legendary that will be similar to Wizbang.
However the golden pack is 250 dust in the worst case, which is worth 250g in average pack.
If the new whizbang is disenchantable, that is also a free legendary of your choice.
In that case, the adventure is worth its gold cost. It's actually a good purchase.
If the golden legendary is fixed, then the adventure is not worth it, valuewise.
This is it, and considering they emphasized its Golden-ness, I imagine it will be undustable, which as was said would be key to making this any kind of value for the consumer. A final reward of what will most often be 300 dust is just not good value for what used to be Adventures, you can't argue that it's not anywhere close to the same kind of value. That being said if the new legend can be dusted for 1600, it's worth even for F2P.
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I think blizzard misunderstood us when we ask for "Adventures" to get back..
They didn't. They just had to compromise. We are not going back to the expansion-adventure-expansion cycle, ever. It's just not as profitable for the company as 3 expansions per year. From what RegisKillbing said they new adventure is like Dungeon Run on steroids, so it will probably be worth it for the people that enjoy free-to-play content. Also, if you are willing to pay the 20 dollars up front you are looking at 13 packs (3 per unlockable wing + 1 golden classic pack) PLUS a golden legendary for that money. It's like a mini-bundle in addition to the normal expansion cost.
You pay to unlock other wings (the first is free) and if you complete one, you get 3 packs, so in terms of actual (and real cards) you are paying 700g for packs. The extra is if you want some solo fun (lol) and want to enjoy more the new adventure.
i just hope they don't do these every expansion from now on. athough this one is exciting it kinda sets back f2p players who still wanna buy packs. surely you can get 700g a week pretty easily, but you're not gonna get much else. technically each wing besides the first one is a net gold loss... not that great. still not terrible value, could be a little better
it might not be ''p2w'' but it's still a solo content locked behind a paywall
"Locked behind a paywall", can you tell me how ?
i have 6000k gold, can you tell me why it's a " behind a paywall" experience ?
The vast majority of people will spend all their gold on packs once the expansions releases. When the adventure comes out, they will have no choice but to purchase it with money if they want to play it.
it might not be ''p2w'' but it's still a solo content locked behind a paywall
"Locked behind a paywall", can you tell me how ?
i have 6000k gold, can you tell me why it's a " behind a paywall" experience ?
The vast majority of people will spend all their gold on packs once the expansions releases. When the adventure comes out, they will have no choice but to purchase it with money if they want to play it.
1st wing is free meaning there is 7 days to get up enough gold to get that 700g which is the 100g per day with with quests and winning matches quite easy to do. I've never paid for a wing in the previous adventures as raising 700g in less than a week is very easy to do. So once again, like usual, you are wrong.
Ppl that are f2p ignore this you lose nothing and let us that want a p2p experience to have it.You get more than enough free stuff so stop crying Nothing says all must be around you and your f2p feelings we p2p we feelings too so for once respect us like w/o our support this game would had died by only f2p ppl so no you shouldnt be the main concern to begin with
Ppl that are f2p ignore this you lose nothing and let us that want a p2p experience to have it.You get more than enough free stuff so stop crying Nothing says all must be around you and your f2p feelings we p2p we feelings too so for once respect us like w/o our support this game would had died by only f2p ppl so no you shouldnt be the main concern to begin with
it might not be ''p2w'' but it's still a solo content locked behind a paywall
"Locked behind a paywall", can you tell me how ?
i have 6000k gold, can you tell me why it's a " behind a paywall" experience ?
The vast majority of people will spend all their gold on packs once the expansions releases. When the adventure comes out, they will have no choice but to purchase it with money if they want to play it.
1st wing is free meaning there is 7 days to get up enough gold to get that 700g which is the 100g per day with with quests and winning matches quite easy to do. I've never paid for a wing in the previous adventures as raising 700g in less than a week is very easy to do. So once again, like usual, you are wrong.
You may not mind but he isn't completely wrong. The other adventures had all of the cards included not requiring any packs to buy now there is a full set plus the adventure.
Yes you can get the required gold necessary without trouble but if there was no adventure you could use that gold to buy more packs to fill your collection or save for the next expansion to buy more then.
This is not required content so debate all you want but it is not a f2p friendly addition for the pve content.
Doesn't it seems that paying with gold is much more expensive than paying it with real money?
So for the price of 28 packs with gold (2800 gold), you got in return 12 packs, because the other 3 is available for free. A golden legendary. A golden classic pack.
If you pay for 20$, you would normally get 15 packs of any expansion. In this case, doesn't it seems like a bundle of 12 packs, a golden legendary, and a golden classic pack for 20$.
No, since you get 16 packs (one full golden pack) + a golden legendary for 2800 gold(one wing is free) + content so basically you are paying 1200 gold for the PVE content + golden legendary you would otherwise pay on packs. which is worth on my book.
BTW the golden pack is worth about 5-10 normal packs in term of dust value.
it might not be ''p2w'' but it's still a solo content locked behind a paywall
"Locked behind a paywall", can you tell me how ?
i have 6000k gold, can you tell me why it's a " behind a paywall" experience ?
The vast majority of people will spend all their gold on packs once the expansions releases. When the adventure comes out, they will have no choice but to purchase it with money if they want to play it.
1st wing is free meaning there is 7 days to get up enough gold to get that 700g which is the 100g per day with with quests and winning matches quite easy to do. I've never paid for a wing in the previous adventures as raising 700g in less than a week is very easy to do. So once again, like usual, you are wrong.
yeah, 700g a week is no big deal for the average player, that's just your daily quest plus 15 wins! Meaning that it would require the player to play 30 games a day for 4 consecutive weeks.
But your right.. I'm wrong, this is very easy to do for everybody… especially for those like you who have nothing to do but play HS all day
People accumulate roughly 3K gold for an expansion. I know I do and I don't play that much just do quests, always reroll 50 quests, have an occasional 80 or 100 gold quest.
I already have 600 gold and I am saving like... 1 week? and I am by no means play a lot.
You get the 15 packs, you get a golden legendary and a golden classic pack, plus all that delicious single player content. The price is fair. Complainers are crazy, I'm the first to be in the bitching line when Blizzard deserve it, believe me.
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Here is the basic math on it for gold buyers.
First wing is free no one can complain about free and it should still reward 3 packs 300g value.
The next 4 wings cost 700g each or 2800g total.
Each wing will reward 3 packs for a value of 300g each or 1200g total value.
If you buy and complete all wings you get a golden classic pack and a golden legendary. How much gold this is worth depends on if you care about golden cards or not. It is worth at least 100g plus a legendary card.
So if you take what you earn in rewards and take that out of the cost your spending a total of 1500g for the ability to play solo content and a golden legendary that will be similar to Wizbang.
However the golden pack is 250 dust in the worst case, which is worth 250g in average pack.
If the new whizbang is disenchantable, that is also a free legendary of your choice.
In that case, the adventure is worth its gold cost. It's actually a good purchase.
If the golden legendary is fixed, then the adventure is not worth it, valuewise.
This is it, and considering they emphasized its Golden-ness, I imagine it will be undustable, which as was said would be key to making this any kind of value for the consumer. A final reward of what will most often be 300 dust is just not good value for what used to be Adventures, you can't argue that it's not anywhere close to the same kind of value. That being said if the new legend can be dusted for 1600, it's worth even for F2P.
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They didn't. They just had to compromise. We are not going back to the expansion-adventure-expansion cycle, ever. It's just not as profitable for the company as 3 expansions per year. From what RegisKillbing said they new adventure is like Dungeon Run on steroids, so it will probably be worth it for the people that enjoy free-to-play content. Also, if you are willing to pay the 20 dollars up front you are looking at 13 packs (3 per unlockable wing + 1 golden classic pack) PLUS a golden legendary for that money. It's like a mini-bundle in addition to the normal expansion cost.
700 per wing.
i just hope they don't do these every expansion from now on. athough this one is exciting it kinda sets back f2p players who still wanna buy packs. surely you can get 700g a week pretty easily, but you're not gonna get much else. technically each wing besides the first one is a net gold loss... not that great. still not terrible value, could be a little better
It kinda sounded to me that that was their intention...
"Locked behind a paywall", can you tell me how ?
i have 6000k gold, can you tell me why it's a " behind a paywall" experience ?
The vast majority of people will spend all their gold on packs once the expansions releases. When the adventure comes out, they will have no choice but to purchase it with money if they want to play it.
1st wing is free meaning there is 7 days to get up enough gold to get that 700g which is the 100g per day with with quests and winning matches quite easy to do. I've never paid for a wing in the previous adventures as raising 700g in less than a week is very easy to do. So once again, like usual, you are wrong.
Ppl that are f2p ignore this you lose nothing and let us that want a p2p experience to have it.You get more than enough free stuff so stop crying Nothing says all must be around you and your f2p feelings we p2p we feelings too so for once respect us like w/o our support this game would had died by only f2p ppl so no you shouldnt be the main concern to begin with
Ppl that are f2p ignore this you lose nothing and let us that want a p2p experience to have it.You get more than enough free stuff so stop crying Nothing says all must be around you and your f2p feelings we p2p we feelings too so for once respect us like w/o our support this game would had died by only f2p ppl so no you shouldnt be the main concern to begin with
You may not mind but he isn't completely wrong. The other adventures had all of the cards included not requiring any packs to buy now there is a full set plus the adventure.
Yes you can get the required gold necessary without trouble but if there was no adventure you could use that gold to buy more packs to fill your collection or save for the next expansion to buy more then.
This is not required content so debate all you want but it is not a f2p friendly addition for the pve content.
this is just utter crap unless you pay $$$ for it.
3500 gold for 15 packs?? yeah right. but 20 dollars for 15 packs and this whizbang mark II. not all that bad.
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Doesn't it seems that paying with gold is much more expensive than paying it with real money?
So for the price of 28 packs with gold (2800 gold), you got in return 12 packs, because the other 3 is available for free. A golden legendary. A golden classic pack.
If you pay for 20$, you would normally get 15 packs of any expansion. In this case, doesn't it seems like a bundle of 12 packs, a golden legendary, and a golden classic pack for 20$.
No, since you get 16 packs (one full golden pack) + a golden legendary for 2800 gold(one wing is free) + content so basically you are paying 1200 gold for the PVE content + golden legendary you would otherwise pay on packs. which is worth on my book.
BTW the golden pack is worth about 5-10 normal packs in term of dust value.
so is it really worth? yes!
yeah, 700g a week is no big deal for the average player, that's just your daily quest plus 15 wins! Meaning that it would require the player to play 30 games a day for 4 consecutive weeks.
But your right.. I'm wrong, this is very easy to do for everybody… especially for those like you who have nothing to do but play HS all day
If this paid PVE has the same """"replayability"""" that the free PVE had, count me out lol. I only play that old crap for quests.
People accumulate roughly 3K gold for an expansion. I know I do and I don't play that much just do quests, always reroll 50 quests, have an occasional 80 or 100 gold quest.
I already have 600 gold and I am saving like... 1 week? and I am by no means play a lot.
You get the 15 packs, you get a golden legendary and a golden classic pack, plus all that delicious single player content. The price is fair. Complainers are crazy, I'm the first to be in the bitching line when Blizzard deserve it, believe me.