Hey folks, can you help me out with what you’d consider regular etiquette when asking someone to help you complete a quest?
I have a player on my friends list who often messages me asking for help to complete their, “Challenge a friend for 80 gold” quest. I don’t mind helping at all. I have over 100 players on my friends list and none of us are salty.
But this particular player...I just don’t think they get how rude they’re coming across?
I finished a game early by conceding after receiving their message asking for help to complete their quest. Of course, I get 80 gold too, so there is an incentive. I waited for the challenge.
Once accepted, they immediately refuse my request to borrow a deck. Huh? Are we doing friendly here or what? It’s the only time we can really explore new decks and play something we don’t know the ins and outs of, surely? It part of the fun of completing the challenge?
Then we open the game and I get no greetings, thank you, not even a Wow! Complete silence. I soon discover I’m met with the Paladin OTK deck - total tier net deck with every card, and they’re drawing through them as fast as they can.
After my request to share decks was refused, I chose a quest priest from my collection, complete with Velen and mind blast. I played it all the way through to completion and won the game.
I messaged thanking the player for the game and the gold. Nothing back. Total silence.
It’s really miffed me that this particular player is always like this. It’s not even like they’re a new player. They’re usually always around rank 5 when they ask for my help with a quest.
I never ever play a meta deck against friendly challenges, and I always share my decks too. I don’t play full on, nor do I go face. If I figure out they’re using one of my decks I’ll usually play sub-optimally to ensure they get long enough to explore the feel of the deck and the synergies available as the game evolves through early, mid and late game states. And after the match (however it ends) we always at least message each other with a thanks, if not a fuller discussion about each others decks and maybe share the deck codes.
So who’s the odd one out here? Me, or this particular player? Am I just expecting a bit too much based on my own perceived etiquette of how friendly matches should be?
It's Internet we're talking about in the end: there isn't a lot we can do. If this happened in real life, it would have been a big problem, but as long as we are talking about people we don't even know, I recommend you to just let it slide.
It's sad I know, but it's a battle not worth this name.
Hey folks, can you help me out with what you’d consider regular etiquette when asking someone to help you complete a quest?
I have a player on my friends list who often messages me asking for help to complete their, “Challenge a friend for 80 gold” quest. I don’t mind helping at all. I have over 100 players on my friends list and none of us are salty.
But this particular player...I just don’t think they get how rude they’re coming across?
I finished a game early by conceding after receiving their message asking for help to complete their quest. Of course, I get 80 gold too, so there is an incentive. I waited for the challenge.
Once accepted, they immediately refuse my request to borrow a deck. Huh? Are we doing friendly here or what? It’s the only time we can really explore new decks and play something we don’t know the ins and outs of, surely? It part of the fun of completing the challenge?
Then we open the game and I get no greetings, thank you, not even a Wow! Complete silence. I soon discover I’m met with the Paladin OTK deck - total tier net deck with every card, and they’re drawing through them as fast as they can.
After my request to share decks was refused, I chose a quest priest from my collection, complete with Velen and mind blast. I played it all the way through to completion and won the game.
I messaged thanking the player for the game and the gold. Nothing back. Total silence.
It’s really miffed me that this particular player is always like this. It’s not even like they’re a new player. They’re usually always around rank 5 when they ask for my help with a quest.
I never ever play a meta deck against friendly challenges, and I always share my decks too. I don’t play full on, nor do I go face. If I figure out they’re using one of my decks I’ll usually play sub-optimally to ensure they get long enough to explore the feel of the deck and the synergies available as the game evolves through early, mid and late game states. And after the match (however it ends) we always at least message each other with a thanks, if not a fuller discussion about each others decks and maybe share the deck codes.
So who’s the odd one out here? Me, or this particular player? Am I just expecting a bit too much based on my own perceived etiquette of how friendly matches should be?
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
i really think youre just being an entitled brat tbh. no one owes you any type of response or behavior, and what your talking about is a complete corner case that happens maybe what once a month, also there is a lack of a community feeling in hearthstone, which should be improved, but in its current state you cant just assume everyone you have added from 5 years ago will want to interact with you. also paladin otk is hardly a meta deck, and being angry at them for wanting to play whatever they feel like is pretty self-centered
When challenging a friend u can now ask to play one of there decks instead of yours.
I would rather have some kind of fun deck to play against then a net decking one. I understand I will get the gold anyhow. But it’s not ranked so why bring net deck.
I can't imagine being completely silent on the game after being DM'd even by a stranger. But I think it happens quite a lot.
I don't think people like that are being spitefully rude. They're just idiots. They have low attention spans or possibly tunnel-vision and I think in this example you happen to be the random 'friend' he has who is consistently online.
I personally know a guy who would just friend everyone he played against to maximise the chance of receiving Friend Gold Challenges in future. That's how a lot of people think in games, cold, micro-managing and tending to forget that other players are not resources in the game to be used for grinding.
Something else to consider: They may be playing on mobile. In my experience/option, the chat implementation on mobile is horrible, to the point that I only use it for absolute necessities. You can multitask while chatting on desktop, but if you're mobile, the chat takes the entire screen, along with the slower typing speed that comes along with it.
From my perspective he seems to be a really bad person and you a very social and selfless guy helping the poor man out with his quest. Next time he offers you 80 gold almost for free you'd better ignore him or delete him from your friendslist.
So rude of him to not want to interact with you or play his challenge on your terms, even thinking he can choose whatever (net-) deck he wants.
Heck, I know sociopaths who even want a challenge in return for MY help with THEIR 80 gold quest. The world if full of really bad people I tell you.
I am not aware of any rule that says you must play a fun deck if challenged. This person does want to give you gold so take it, don't get so caught up in the if a part of the challenge was rude or not. This person could have legitimate reasons why he or she is not responding to your attempts at communication. I would say just don't let it bother you and if you find that its more than you can take then consider removing them as a friend. There are some not so friendly people irl (and possibly some in hs) but since you have 100+ friends I am sure you can find someone else that will play with you. Don't overthink this, just keep it moving I am sure you have better things to do with your time.
Good Christ people...player is asking a question seriously and y'all are burying the post with bm for no reason. I'll answer your question direct in response to some of the already useful comments.
Yes many people jump into games and never emote. Sometimes not emoting period is better tbh, you're left to interpreting an emote based on mood and sometimes that can be volatile. In this case, yes I would say you greet the person if you didn't chat with them period prior or during the challenge, and drop a well played at the very end. I frequently chat with my competition during this, if they are on my friends list its because I respect them as a player and/or have fun with them.
The player could be timid or maybe there is some type of age/race/language/gender barrier that is making them less likely to interact. That happens and you have to decide if that's the experience you want in this game. Your friend list is yours, shape it to your liking.
Finally, no while the player technically doesn't "owe" you anything you are still taking time to do the quest with the player. They can at least be respectful even if they randomly selected you since you were online among others. So don't let the assholes on here tell you to stay quiet and play the game and walk with your 80 gold. This is a game, games are supposed to be fun. We are supposed to interact with one another, learn from one another, have fun with one another, and build a community that connects a melting pot of positive activity. That is the point of video games and you'd do good to ignore anyone who disagrees.
Well, if he wasnt responding back, then either a) just finish the game, get your gold and shrug it off; or b) delete him / dont accept his offers in the future, if you dont like his behavior (since it seems to be a recurring thing).
One could assume, that he wanted to do it asap and not fiddle around with rando decks and such, just have it over with, especially since you are gettin free gold in a process. I wouldnt say he was acting like a douche per se, but given his lack of communication, the ball is in your court to decide how you want to handle ppl like this > going back to a) or b).
Your friend is quite rude, but your expectations are a bit too high as well.
About deck sharing maybe he does not want to show his lists? You can't really know.
(I had friends who kicked me out of spectator, and closed spectator mode on their side, so weird people are there. Promptly removed from my list ofc, since they are useless)
What's rude on his side is definitely the complete silence. He could at least emote a thanks.
On your side, the non-netdeck in a friendly challenge is a rule you came up on your own. People play what they want, including friends. You cannot expect anything in that field.
Overall, you get regular extra gold from this guy, so why bother.
PS: by "friend" here i meant a random player in my friendlist, met in random games. Not people i actually know.
I have a special Warlock deck that I use whenever I get a challenge a friend request, or when I trade one here, so I can kill myself quickly, and the me and my opponent/friend can get back to play whatever we want at that moment. I see this as the best aproach on these occasions, afterall we aren't really challenging one another for our own liking, because we want to try some deck or whatever, but because we were coerced by the game to.
And yes, you're being an hipersensitive brat.
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Hey folks, can you help me out with what you’d consider regular etiquette when asking someone to help you complete a quest?
I have a player on my friends list who often messages me asking for help to complete their, “Challenge a friend for 80 gold” quest. I don’t mind helping at all. I have over 100 players on my friends list and none of us are salty.
But this particular player...I just don’t think they get how rude they’re coming across?
I finished a game early by conceding after receiving their message asking for help to complete their quest. Of course, I get 80 gold too, so there is an incentive. I waited for the challenge.
Once accepted, they immediately refuse my request to borrow a deck. Huh? Are we doing friendly here or what? It’s the only time we can really explore new decks and play something we don’t know the ins and outs of, surely? It part of the fun of completing the challenge?
Then we open the game and I get no greetings, thank you, not even a Wow! Complete silence. I soon discover I’m met with the Paladin OTK deck - total tier net deck with every card, and they’re drawing through them as fast as they can.
After my request to share decks was refused, I chose a quest priest from my collection, complete with Velen and mind blast. I played it all the way through to completion and won the game.
I messaged thanking the player for the game and the gold. Nothing back. Total silence.
It’s really miffed me that this particular player is always like this. It’s not even like they’re a new player. They’re usually always around rank 5 when they ask for my help with a quest.
I never ever play a meta deck against friendly challenges, and I always share my decks too. I don’t play full on, nor do I go face. If I figure out they’re using one of my decks I’ll usually play sub-optimally to ensure they get long enough to explore the feel of the deck and the synergies available as the game evolves through early, mid and late game states. And after the match (however it ends) we always at least message each other with a thanks, if not a fuller discussion about each others decks and maybe share the deck codes.
So who’s the odd one out here? Me, or this particular player? Am I just expecting a bit too much based on my own perceived etiquette of how friendly matches should be?
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
he sounds like a douche . DELETE HIM.
he doesn't owe you anything tbh.
Why u hav to be mad? is only card gaem.
Just use the post on here to get someone to do it with you.
I have this kind of friends too.
It's Internet we're talking about in the end: there isn't a lot we can do. If this happened in real life, it would have been a big problem, but as long as we are talking about people we don't even know, I recommend you to just let it slide.
It's sad I know, but it's a battle not worth this name.
Wait you can borrow decks, and how does that even work?
i don’t play with a lot of people from my friends list (cause I don’t have many).
Sounds like you’re really sensitive. He gave you you gold.
Just use him as a cow.
i really think youre just being an entitled brat tbh. no one owes you any type of response or behavior, and what your talking about is a complete corner case that happens maybe what once a month, also there is a lack of a community feeling in hearthstone, which should be improved, but in its current state you cant just assume everyone you have added from 5 years ago will want to interact with you. also paladin otk is hardly a meta deck, and being angry at them for wanting to play whatever they feel like is pretty self-centered
When challenging a friend u can now ask to play one of there decks instead of yours.
I would rather have some kind of fun deck to play against then a net decking one. I understand I will get the gold anyhow. But it’s not ranked so why bring net deck.
I can't imagine being completely silent on the game after being DM'd even by a stranger. But I think it happens quite a lot.
I don't think people like that are being spitefully rude. They're just idiots. They have low attention spans or possibly tunnel-vision and I think in this example you happen to be the random 'friend' he has who is consistently online.
I personally know a guy who would just friend everyone he played against to maximise the chance of receiving Friend Gold Challenges in future. That's how a lot of people think in games, cold, micro-managing and tending to forget that other players are not resources in the game to be used for grinding.
Something else to consider: They may be playing on mobile. In my experience/option, the chat implementation on mobile is horrible, to the point that I only use it for absolute necessities. You can multitask while chatting on desktop, but if you're mobile, the chat takes the entire screen, along with the slower typing speed that comes along with it.
From my perspective he seems to be a really bad person and you a very social and selfless guy helping the poor man out with his quest. Next time he offers you 80 gold almost for free you'd better ignore him or delete him from your friendslist.
So rude of him to not want to interact with you or play his challenge on your terms, even thinking he can choose whatever (net-) deck he wants.
Heck, I know sociopaths who even want a challenge in return for MY help with THEIR 80 gold quest. The world if full of really bad people I tell you.
I see, thanks for answering my unrelated question.
have a nice day.
I am not aware of any rule that says you must play a fun deck if challenged. This person does want to give you gold so take it, don't get so caught up in the if a part of the challenge was rude or not. This person could have legitimate reasons why he or she is not responding to your attempts at communication. I would say just don't let it bother you and if you find that its more than you can take then consider removing them as a friend. There are some not so friendly people irl (and possibly some in hs) but since you have 100+ friends I am sure you can find someone else that will play with you. Don't overthink this, just keep it moving I am sure you have better things to do with your time.
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Good Christ people...player is asking a question seriously and y'all are burying the post with bm for no reason. I'll answer your question direct in response to some of the already useful comments.
Yes many people jump into games and never emote. Sometimes not emoting period is better tbh, you're left to interpreting an emote based on mood and sometimes that can be volatile. In this case, yes I would say you greet the person if you didn't chat with them period prior or during the challenge, and drop a well played at the very end. I frequently chat with my competition during this, if they are on my friends list its because I respect them as a player and/or have fun with them.
The player could be timid or maybe there is some type of age/race/language/gender barrier that is making them less likely to interact. That happens and you have to decide if that's the experience you want in this game. Your friend list is yours, shape it to your liking.
Finally, no while the player technically doesn't "owe" you anything you are still taking time to do the quest with the player. They can at least be respectful even if they randomly selected you since you were online among others. So don't let the assholes on here tell you to stay quiet and play the game and walk with your 80 gold. This is a game, games are supposed to be fun. We are supposed to interact with one another, learn from one another, have fun with one another, and build a community that connects a melting pot of positive activity. That is the point of video games and you'd do good to ignore anyone who disagrees.
Well, if he wasnt responding back, then either a) just finish the game, get your gold and shrug it off; or b) delete him / dont accept his offers in the future, if you dont like his behavior (since it seems to be a recurring thing).
One could assume, that he wanted to do it asap and not fiddle around with rando decks and such, just have it over with, especially since you are gettin free gold in a process. I wouldnt say he was acting like a douche per se, but given his lack of communication, the ball is in your court to decide how you want to handle ppl like this > going back to a) or b).
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I only do 80 gold quests with friends i know in real life, its more fun to bm each other with infinite emotes, knowing that your friend laughs with u.
Your friend is quite rude, but your expectations are a bit too high as well.
About deck sharing maybe he does not want to show his lists? You can't really know.
(I had friends who kicked me out of spectator, and closed spectator mode on their side, so weird people are there. Promptly removed from my list ofc, since they are useless)
What's rude on his side is definitely the complete silence. He could at least emote a thanks.
On your side, the non-netdeck in a friendly challenge is a rule you came up on your own. People play what they want, including friends. You cannot expect anything in that field.
Overall, you get regular extra gold from this guy, so why bother.
PS: by "friend" here i meant a random player in my friendlist, met in random games. Not people i actually know.
I have a special Warlock deck that I use whenever I get a challenge a friend request, or when I trade one here, so I can kill myself quickly, and the me and my opponent/friend can get back to play whatever we want at that moment. I see this as the best aproach on these occasions, afterall we aren't really challenging one another for our own liking, because we want to try some deck or whatever, but because we were coerced by the game to.
And yes, you're being an hipersensitive brat.