I have been a following many streamers since I started playing HS 4 years ago, now more than ever I am seeing more of them having little to no HS content in their channels or uploading old content cause they stopped playing to name a few?
Trump, Kibler, Amaz,Firebat, and Savaj that left 3 months ago as well, wonder when Kripp is gonna start quitting HS as well.
apart from dailies I haven't been playing for a while either..here should be an announcement in 1.5 weeks about the new HS year if there isn't anything entirely new I guess I will just quit as well, I don't know why so many of us cope with this game for so long they keep it stale for too long the meta is solved too quickly and the new cards aren't played at all, as well as Blizzard destroying entire class identities cause they are too greedy to nerf their newer cards that ARE THE PROBLEM RIP druid... (never liked druid BTW)
Players : twitch streamers : playerbase? Also there are more content creators in the world aside from the narrow, more publisiced names you mentioned; that certainly doesn't equate any judgement on playerbase, unless you have some data you're not revealing.
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You willfully ignore how abysmally small the online community is. It looks big to you, as a member of the community, but it is really not a high %. The majority of the playerbase play HS extremely casually, don't interact online, don't watch streams, read forums and so on.
All of the names that you've mentioned stream HS regularly to this day.
Given that Dean Ayala even asks on twitter how to get back people how quit / play less, I think it is pretty safe to assume that the game indeed loses ground quickly. Whereas MTGA rises, and I also moved from playing lots of arena in HS to just doing dailies, if even, while playing much more MTGA.
The game is just too expensive and sorry, but MTG is just the better game. Where HS basically plays in autopilot mode (ANY deck does, only arena is somewhat challenging), MTG allows more complex interactions and is just more fun once you get into it.
a few streamers not playing anymore does not equate to "HS is losing it's players big time". if you have facts or stats then it would be worth talking about otherwise youre just talking out of your ass
a few streamers not playing anymore does not equate to "HS is losing it's players big time". if you have facts or stats then it would be worth talking about otherwise youre just talking out of your ass
See front page, dean ayala's post, many people stopped playing HS as their main game, those people are also the ones that buy around 1000 packs of each expansion so Blizzard should care, as well as keeping people who are driven by online communities (as Sherman said) to stay interested.
The game is currently at a stage that if it doesn't do something quick it will lose parts of it's player base (again look at Ayala's post in tweeter).
Twitch, Youtube, events.. those are the important things not those F2P"mobile gamers"
Where HS basically plays in autopilot mode (ANY deck does, only arena is somewhat challenging)
Nope, this is objectively false. Some decks operate specifically so that every time is different, and you have to decide what your win conditions are. I get it, you want to make a point, but by deriding a game into a polar extreme is weak thinking dude, it makes whatever point YOU are making objectively wrong, since your judgement is questionable af.
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I have no evidence aside from my own two eyes to support this, but each time I go on Twitch to check out some HS streams, there seems to be far fewer streamers with a high number of viewers than there used to be. Last night, during a time when there was normally a ton of streamers with high viewer counts, there were people in the top 10 English streams with less than 100 viewers.
it's the time before the new set arrives you always get a drop, many will come back when new set hits. other games are around too so people will go elsewhere. You just wont get permanent retention anymore they'll be around for a while when the new set is here then leave again and come back with the new set just a new normal
Yes and when the stock market tanks it never goes back up again right?! Hearthstone goes in a very healthy cyclical rotation of heavy attention directly before and after content, and then steady reliable playing in between. Doomsayer must be you people's favorite card because the moment a "Keyboard Celebrity" starts playing another game with their free will absolute chaos erupts. The developer post about attracting players is directed towards those that have been gone, not just now leaving or threatening to leave. Children.
I can't speak for anyone else, but when I started Hearthstone in about season 3 or 4, I really got into it primarily because it filled the need for a good multiplayer CCG, and it really didn't have any competition. I started playing it less in the last year or so, but was still playing it quite regularly, doing a few arenas a week and getting to rank 5 for rewards. Now, though, I started playing MTGA on day 1 of open beta and most of my free time goes there now, because as an old school (mid 90s) MTG player, that's really the game I wanted to play online and Hearthstone was simply the closest thing to it. (not counting MTGO because it's expensive as hell, whereas both HS and MTGA are easily doable f2p)
It's kind of like Hearthstone is sandpaper, and 4 years ago that's all I had to wipe my bum with, so I used it, and now I have MTGA. Now, despite that silly analogy, I *do* still play Hearthstone, but now it's a couple arenas a month and get rank 5 the first weekend, then some casuals or screwing around to get my quests done.
My God, HS is loosing all the players again? Once again everyone migrated to Artifact and MTGA? Will HS survive this time? Who knows...
No, Hearthstone is not loosing all its players at the moment, but sooner or later the game is gonna die like any other. It is logical to think the decline has begun, Hearthstone is an old game already. Anyone who doesn't see that is totally blind.
Yeah, many people come back to play Hearthstone when a new expansion is released, but to think every single player returns is silly as f..k. The game is losing players, that is undeniable, and considering how popular it was at the begining, they must be a lot.
unless you're an arena player, there is literally no point in playing hearthstone anymore.
single player is boring... and ladder is even more boring. like, why would you play ladder? there is literally no incentive to do so for the casual player. legend rank means nothing since you play against the same decks anyways.
yes the community is great, but in a certain way to a fault. HS players will always come back. even if blizzard doesn't care about making the game good. and blizzard knows that, so..
i have fun playing arena. but besides that, Hearthstone is boring af.
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I have been a following many streamers since I started playing HS 4 years ago, now more than ever I am seeing more of them having little to no HS content in their channels or uploading old content cause they stopped playing to name a few?
Trump, Kibler, Amaz,Firebat, and Savaj that left 3 months ago as well, wonder when Kripp is gonna start quitting HS as well.
apart from dailies I haven't been playing for a while either..here should be an announcement in 1.5 weeks about the new HS year if there isn't anything entirely new I guess I will just quit as well, I don't know why so many of us cope with this game for so long they keep it stale for too long the meta is solved too quickly and the new cards aren't played at all, as well as Blizzard destroying entire class identities cause they are too greedy to nerf their newer cards that ARE THE PROBLEM RIP druid... (never liked druid BTW)
Easy, because the community is awesome, that is why. ;)
Players : twitch streamers : playerbase? Also there are more content creators in the world aside from the narrow, more publisiced names you mentioned; that certainly doesn't equate any judgement on playerbase, unless you have some data you're not revealing.
If you thought you knew what you think I know, then you'd know I knew you knew I know.
No, it is not.
You willfully ignore how abysmally small the online community is. It looks big to you, as a member of the community, but it is really not a high %. The majority of the playerbase play HS extremely casually, don't interact online, don't watch streams, read forums and so on.
All of the names that you've mentioned stream HS regularly to this day.
Given that Dean Ayala even asks on twitter how to get back people how quit / play less, I think it is pretty safe to assume that the game indeed loses ground quickly. Whereas MTGA rises, and I also moved from playing lots of arena in HS to just doing dailies, if even, while playing much more MTGA.
The game is just too expensive and sorry, but MTG is just the better game. Where HS basically plays in autopilot mode (ANY deck does, only arena is somewhat challenging), MTG allows more complex interactions and is just more fun once you get into it.
Arena Leaderboard EU - September 2018: #47 (@7.77 Wins Average)
hearthstone is steadily dropping in twitch viewers.. it really needs to announce something new and good soon.
a few streamers not playing anymore does not equate to "HS is losing it's players big time". if you have facts or stats then it would be worth talking about otherwise youre just talking out of your ass
My God, HS is loosing all the players again? Once again everyone migrated to Artifact and MTGA? Will HS survive this time? Who knows...
8.9k Viewers at this time on steam. 21st game numbers wise.
See front page, dean ayala's post, many people stopped playing HS as their main game, those people are also the ones that buy around 1000 packs of each expansion so Blizzard should care, as well as keeping people who are driven by online communities (as Sherman said) to stay interested.
The game is currently at a stage that if it doesn't do something quick it will lose parts of it's player base (again look at Ayala's post in tweeter).
Twitch, Youtube, events.. those are the important things not those F2P"mobile gamers"
Nope, this is objectively false. Some decks operate specifically so that every time is different, and you have to decide what your win conditions are. I get it, you want to make a point, but by deriding a game into a polar extreme is weak thinking dude, it makes whatever point YOU are making objectively wrong, since your judgement is questionable af.
If you thought you knew what you think I know, then you'd know I knew you knew I know.
I have no evidence aside from my own two eyes to support this, but each time I go on Twitch to check out some HS streams, there seems to be far fewer streamers with a high number of viewers than there used to be. Last night, during a time when there was normally a ton of streamers with high viewer counts, there were people in the top 10 English streams with less than 100 viewers.
it's the time before the new set arrives you always get a drop, many will come back when new set hits. other games are around too so people will go elsewhere. You just wont get permanent retention anymore they'll be around for a while when the new set is here then leave again and come back with the new set just a new normal
Yes and when the stock market tanks it never goes back up again right?! Hearthstone goes in a very healthy cyclical rotation of heavy attention directly before and after content, and then steady reliable playing in between. Doomsayer must be you people's favorite card because the moment a "Keyboard Celebrity" starts playing another game with their free will absolute chaos erupts. The developer post about attracting players is directed towards those that have been gone, not just now leaving or threatening to leave. Children.
I can't speak for anyone else, but when I started Hearthstone in about season 3 or 4, I really got into it primarily because it filled the need for a good multiplayer CCG, and it really didn't have any competition. I started playing it less in the last year or so, but was still playing it quite regularly, doing a few arenas a week and getting to rank 5 for rewards. Now, though, I started playing MTGA on day 1 of open beta and most of my free time goes there now, because as an old school (mid 90s) MTG player, that's really the game I wanted to play online and Hearthstone was simply the closest thing to it. (not counting MTGO because it's expensive as hell, whereas both HS and MTGA are easily doable f2p)
It's kind of like Hearthstone is sandpaper, and 4 years ago that's all I had to wipe my bum with, so I used it, and now I have MTGA. Now, despite that silly analogy, I *do* still play Hearthstone, but now it's a couple arenas a month and get rank 5 the first weekend, then some casuals or screwing around to get my quests done.
No, Hearthstone is not loosing all its players at the moment, but sooner or later the game is gonna die like any other. It is logical to think the decline has begun, Hearthstone is an old game already. Anyone who doesn't see that is totally blind.
Yeah, many people come back to play Hearthstone when a new expansion is released, but to think every single player returns is silly as f..k. The game is losing players, that is undeniable, and considering how popular it was at the begining, they must be a lot.
If only we could do something to save Hearthstone... Damn!!! :(
Meh it will probably survive.
I just hate that mentality of "keep doing the same cause it's successful" Blizzard is using on HS
To save Blizzard you mean.
unless you're an arena player, there is literally no point in playing hearthstone anymore.
single player is boring... and ladder is even more boring. like, why would you play ladder? there is literally no incentive to do so for the casual player. legend rank means nothing since you play against the same decks anyways.
yes the community is great, but in a certain way to a fault. HS players will always come back. even if blizzard doesn't care about making the game good. and blizzard knows that, so..
i have fun playing arena. but besides that, Hearthstone is boring af.