What did the early 2000's call and demand cartoon images to be censored again like old Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh cards/anime? Pathetic, can we all just grow up please, anyone who is offended by cartoon cleavage obviously has the perfect life and lives in a little bubble..................and deserves to be slapped around the face really, really hard
Whatever was censored in yugioh or pokemon?!!!!!
Dark Magic Girl had larger breasts in the original and it was reduced when it went to the west. As far as pokemon, I believe the reference is towards the episode when James wore large breasts for a swimsuit episode. That one was flat out banned and buried.
Actually there are tonnes of censored yu-gi-oh cards and nearly every episode was censored for "innocent" western audiences. If you ever get the chance to see it in Japanese with subs you will see how different it is.
Pokemon less so but that James one is the prime one. There were a few others though that were big at the time which you can look up if you want lol
I’m probably selfish for saying this but if people get mad over a portrait in a card game then this world is dumb. Like wow, every time I play mage or against a mage, I gotta look at that art and jack off too it. I’m sure there are plenty other sources that have better “art” for special needs/research purposes. Personally, I think the change is lame, but why now?
This thread is starting to devolve further and further away from the topic itself. Please try to stay on the directly Hearthstone-related side of things if you don't want this thread to be locked too.
Real question - how is this thread not locked yet? It's completely against the site rules.
I would assume that following the request this discussion be permitted after all other threads on the discussion were locked, and the subsequent explanation by site staff that these threads typically deteriorate into a non-productive and somewhat antagonistic mess (my words not theirs) - they decided to prove the point for allowing it to continue for a time.
edit: though a mod post above seems to suggest everyone is being the benefit of the doubt and a chance for calm considered discussion on the topic.
That said a lot of people have made sensible valid and worthwhile points (I hope mine on page 2 was also), so that's also worth noting.
What did the early 2000's call and demand cartoon images to be censored again like old Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh cards/anime? Pathetic, can we all just grow up please, anyone who is offended by cartoon cleavage obviously has the perfect life and lives in a little bubble..................and deserves to be slapped around the face really, really hard
Whatever was censored in yugioh or pokemon?!!!!!
Just google 4kids censorship and you will see.
I did and wow. Shadow Realm was made up to replace death. Some of it makes sense, but some seems ridiculous.
What did the early 2000's call and demand cartoon images to be censored again like old Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh cards/anime? Pathetic, can we all just grow up please, anyone who is offended by cartoon cleavage obviously has the perfect life and lives in a little bubble..................and deserves to be slapped around the face really, really hard
Whatever was censored in yugioh or pokemon?!!!!!
Dark Magic Girl had larger breasts in the original and it was reduced when it went to the west. As far as pokemon, I believe the reference is towards the episode when James wore large breasts for a swimsuit episode. That one was flat out banned and buried.
I thought the original portrait was overly sexualized, so I am in favor of the change. Suggestiveness is classier than semi-nudity. I don't play WoW, but I have read that the Jaina character was known for her wisdom, courage, and history of struggles, and her looks were secondary.
Full disclosure: I'm a gay man, and cleavage doesn't do that much for me. Another personal bias is that I think both men and women should dress modestly in public, like buttoned-to-the-top modest. (Edit, yes my avatar is Lucy Heartfilia, and yes I hate how she is dressed in the anime/manga even though I like her.)
Of course, there is a lot of idealization in fantasy art, for both men and women. As many have pointed out, several of the male portraits have pictures hyper-muscular half-naked fantasy humanoid men.
Blizzard should directly address the censorship of the portrait. I would like to know the reasoning. Had they received complaints? Did they foresee a future problem? Are they going to be stricter about sexiness in future art releases?
That's dumb. She's a mage who isnt afraid of the cold. More seriously, all the characters should look just like they do in WoW. It's too many layers. Looks bad.
In the real world no one cares about your "modesty". People dress exactly how they want and are comfortable. Your opinion on what anyone wears in public is just about as important as other's opinion on what you do in private.
*micdrop*
Hah. It is not true that people get to dress exactly as they want. Maybe in the Scandinavian utopia you inhabit clothing is optional, but not where I come from. There are plenty of places where "comfortable dress" won't get you in door.
Public decency is a big issue in a lot of places. It seems a lot of the discussion of modesty (in the United States at least) devolves into young men getting mad that someone is denying them their view of breasts and young women getting mad that someone is denying them the opportunity to show their breasts.
Personally I'm convinced that cleavage is a sexual display, and should be considered as such. Plunging necklines in women's fashion not present in men's fashion are basic evidence of this. Your society decides how much sexual display it can handle, and then you go from there. There are a lot of societies in which Jaina would get arrested for wearing that outfit. I like RavenSunHP's idea that the alteration was due to a business decision in order to appeal to the biggest market possible. I'm interested in hearing Blizzard's reasoning, but I guess that not saying anything is their wisest move.
Scandinavian utopia? Well, at least you got one thing right in your comment ;)
Public decency is not a problem in a lot of places. It seems to be a problem mostly in the US, a country dominated by public outrage over basically anything that can remotely be considered inappropriate/harmful/insertbuzzword. You'd be surprised how not only here in Scandinavia but in Europe in general nobody gives a flying fuck about what you're wearing (as long as it is not extremely revealing).
But hey, I'm sure that there are some Muslim extremists who share your view of modesty :)
a muslim person over here , can confirm that i think the jaina change is pretty bullshit (who the fuck thought having a slight reveal of breasts is offensive anyways?) modesty is nice but people are allowed to wear whatever the fuck they want most of the time (as long as it's not EXTREMLY revealing) it's really bullshit to see such change from blizzard , and even more bs to see people supporting it , just wnated to throw my opinion out there
It's a cartoon character on a video game. Who cares.
yeah, the problem is that this is just an example of what happens in the real world, here is just a character from a video game and you are here in a thread in a page that has that game as core thematich, but out there exists big gruops that complains and make disasters for gor things that are more, equal and less importan than this.
Why is this an important topic ? Why is this still being discussed ? It’s a game , it happened.
NEXT
I would add, why do you keep entring to the thread, and if you tall me that is cause is a free page and you can do whatever you want, ok that is true, but i don't know what fo you spect, the only thing you are doing is getting salty while you could be in another thread or doing something else.
This thread is starting to devolve further and further away from the topic itself. Please try to stay on the directly Hearthstone-related side of things if you don't want this thread to be locked too.
I think is better close it now, there is no much to add in the discussion . Only jokes and memes but it doesn't seem to calm the waters of the saltiest people
It's a cartoon character on a video game. Who cares.
yeah, the problem is that this is just an example of what happens in the real world, here is just a character from a video game and you are here in a thread in a page that has that game as core thematich, but out there exists big gruops that complains and make disasters for gor things that are more, equal and less importan than this.
.............what. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
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It's a cartoon character on a video game. Who cares.
yeah, the problem is that this is just an example of what happens in the real world, here is just a character from a video game and you are here in a thread in a page that has that game as core thematich, but out there exists big gruops that complains and make disasters for gor things that are more, equal and less importan than this.
.............what. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
You have people complaining here for a "game character" in a forum in a page of that game....Rigth?, well here is normal that things like this happens, but in the world thing like this are "serious" and you have big groups of people making chaos (and when i mean chaos, i mean disorder or chaos) and crying for things like this, i think a thread talking about the change in a simple forum is not a problen unless it becames more problematic than it (i mean corverting it in more than a simple thread where people just talk).....better?
It's a cartoon character on a video game. Who cares.
yeah, the problem is that this is just an example of what happens in the real world, here is just a character from a video game and you are here in a thread in a page that has that game as core thematich, but out there exists big gruops that complains and make disasters for gor things that are more, equal and less importan than this.
.............what. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
You have people complaining here for a "game character" in a forum in a page of that game....Rigth?, well here is normal that things like this happens, but in the world thing like this are "serious" and you have big groups of people making chaos (and when i mean chaos, i mean disorder or chaos) and crying for things like this, i think a thread talking about the change in a simple forum is not a problen unless it becames more problematic than it (i mean corverting it in more than a simple thread where people just talk).....better?
tl;dr "I don't have a problem with this thread because real world censorship exists" is that about right?
This thread violates the forum rules of not discussing moderator actions, and also is just simply discussing things in a thread that was already locked for discussing those exact things. Why this thread remains open is beyond me.
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Well it's a legitimate subject. Censorhsip for no reason is particularly galling especially when it comes to art. Look at WotC. They received massive backflash in previous sets for watering down their female and male characters to the point where you could barely tell the difference.
Hearthstone hasn't quite reached that point yet but this wasn't needed, especially since I can't fathom who would complain about pixelised breasts that take up less than 1/50 of a computer screen.
What's worse are people who can't take a joke about it and they know who they are. The real world won't do them any favours in the long run.
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It's a cartoon character on a video game. Who cares.
yeah, the problem is that this is just an example of what happens in the real world, here is just a character from a video game and you are here in a thread in a page that has that game as core thematich, but out there exists big gruops that complains and make disasters for gor things that are more, equal and less importan than this.
.............what. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
You have people complaining here for a "game character" in a forum in a page of that game....Rigth?, well here is normal that things like this happens, but in the world thing like this are "serious" and you have big groups of people making chaos (and when i mean chaos, i mean disorder or chaos) and crying for things like this, i think a thread talking about the change in a simple forum is not a problen unless it becames more problematic than it (i mean corverting it in more than a simple thread where people just talk).....better?
tl;dr "I don't have a problem with this thread because real world censorship exists" is that about right?
This thread violates the forum rules of not discussing moderator actions, and also is just simply discussing things in a thread that was already locked for discussing those exact things. Why this thread remains open is beyond me.
well, i don't know, but even i said it's time to close it, leaving aside some topics, this also hasn't to much to discuss anymore. Or at least should moved it to off toppics where you can talk about whatever you want
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Actually there are tonnes of censored yu-gi-oh cards and nearly every episode was censored for "innocent" western audiences. If you ever get the chance to see it in Japanese with subs you will see how different it is.
Pokemon less so but that James one is the prime one. There were a few others though that were big at the time which you can look up if you want lol
I’m probably selfish for saying this but if people get mad over a portrait in a card game then this world is dumb. Like wow, every time I play mage or against a mage, I gotta look at that art and jack off too it. I’m sure there are plenty other sources that have better “art” for special needs/research purposes. Personally, I think the change is lame, but why now?
Blizz SJW logic.
This thread is starting to devolve further and further away from the topic itself. Please try to stay on the directly Hearthstone-related side of things if you don't want this thread to be locked too.
I would assume that following the request this discussion be permitted after all other threads on the discussion were locked, and the subsequent explanation by site staff that these threads typically deteriorate into a non-productive and somewhat antagonistic mess (my words not theirs) - they decided to prove the point for allowing it to continue for a time.
edit: though a mod post above seems to suggest everyone is being the benefit of the doubt and a chance for calm considered discussion on the topic.
That said a lot of people have made sensible valid and worthwhile points (I hope mine on page 2 was also), so that's also worth noting.
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I did and wow. Shadow Realm was made up to replace death. Some of it makes sense, but some seems ridiculous.
lol DMG seems like a very innocent character.
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Scandinavian utopia? Well, at least you got one thing right in your comment ;)
Public decency is not a problem in a lot of places. It seems to be a problem mostly in the US, a country dominated by public outrage over basically anything that can remotely be considered inappropriate/harmful/insertbuzzword. You'd be surprised how not only here in Scandinavia but in Europe in general nobody gives a flying fuck about what you're wearing (as long as it is not extremely revealing).
But hey, I'm sure that there are some Muslim extremists who share your view of modesty :)
a muslim person over here , can confirm that i think the jaina change is pretty bullshit (who the fuck thought having a slight reveal of breasts is offensive anyways?) modesty is nice but people are allowed to wear whatever the fuck they want most of the time (as long as it's not EXTREMLY revealing) it's really bullshit to see such change from blizzard , and even more bs to see people supporting it , just wnated to throw my opinion out there
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On with the show.
It's a cartoon character on a video game. Who cares.
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love 2 see people losing it over a strip of clothing while pretending it's everyone else that's too sensitive
Why are you here? Lol.
yeah, the problem is that this is just an example of what happens in the real world, here is just a character from a video game and you are here in a thread in a page that has that game as core thematich, but out there exists big gruops that complains and make disasters for gor things that are more, equal and less importan than this.
I would add, why do you keep entring to the thread, and if you tall me that is cause is a free page and you can do whatever you want, ok that is true, but i don't know what fo you spect, the only thing you are doing is getting salty while you could be in another thread or doing something else.
I think is better close it now, there is no much to add in the discussion . Only jokes and memes but it doesn't seem to calm the waters of the saltiest people
.............what. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
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You have people complaining here for a "game character" in a forum in a page of that game....Rigth?, well here is normal that things like this happens, but in the world thing like this are "serious" and you have big groups of people making chaos (and when i mean chaos, i mean disorder or chaos) and crying for things like this, i think a thread talking about the change in a simple forum is not a problen unless it becames more problematic than it (i mean corverting it in more than a simple thread where people just talk).....better?
well, at least 1 last meme before this thread gets closed
tl;dr "I don't have a problem with this thread because real world censorship exists" is that about right?
This thread violates the forum rules of not discussing moderator actions, and also is just simply discussing things in a thread that was already locked for discussing those exact things. Why this thread remains open is beyond me.
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Says the guy that complains non stop in the group therapy section. You sir should be the last to talk as you obviously have no life whatsoever.
i think you have some real serious issues to attend so please focus on those or it will end very poorly for you
Well it's a legitimate subject. Censorhsip for no reason is particularly galling especially when it comes to art. Look at WotC. They received massive backflash in previous sets for watering down their female and male characters to the point where you could barely tell the difference.
Hearthstone hasn't quite reached that point yet but this wasn't needed, especially since I can't fathom who would complain about pixelised breasts that take up less than 1/50 of a computer screen.
What's worse are people who can't take a joke about it and they know who they are. The real world won't do them any favours in the long run.
well, i don't know, but even i said it's time to close it, leaving aside some topics, this also hasn't to much to discuss anymore. Or at least should moved it to off toppics where you can talk about whatever you want