I started playing Standard around the middle of the Boomsday expansion. I had opened some packs and found Subject 9. This was before I knew anything about the meta and such, so this was the first time I made a competitive deck instead of using auto-fill. So after a month or so, I got all the cards for the deck. I successfully climbed up to rank 10.
Then Rastakhan's Rumble came out. Zuljin [/card] was introduced(I don't have him, I'm a F2P and don't have enough resources to craft him), and the Hunter hate began. After a couple of weeks, my Hunter deck was absolutely useless against priest and warrior, due to my main finisher [card] Lesser Emerald Spellstone being countered by so many cards such as Duskbreaker and so many other cards. Now I just don't play Standard Ranked anymore because it's too anti-hunter.
So, is Hunter not the meta? Or is it like any other strong deck that has that one counter to it? Or maybe it's because I don't have Zuljin? I have old Boomsday Secret Hunter, so I don't have Masked Contender or any of those other cards that could improve my deck.
I'm thinking of playing Wild now, just to get away from Standard. Unfortunately I didn't make my decision fast enough before the Wild bundle was gone. What kind of Wild decks could I play? I would prefer about a 5,000 dust deck that performs well.
It’s kind of a terrible place to be if you need any legendaries right now. I need just two or one key legendaries for some decks that run 6 or 7 but unfortunately they will rotate soon so it’s kind of a weird limbo.
To answer you question tho hunter is definitely meta. Went up against probably 80 hunters today and I’m sooooo sick of them. Especially deathrattle.
It’s kind of a terrible place to be if you need any legendaries right now. I need just two or one key legendaries for some decks that run 6 or 7 but unfortunately they will rotate soon so it’s kind of a weird limbo.
To answer you question tho hunter is definitely meta. Went up against probably 80 hunters today and I’m sooooo sick of them. Especially deathrattle.
1. The wild bundle is still accessible if you access it via the battle.net online shop
2. I was once in the same position, I started playing around the beginning of KOFT and a lot of the cards were far too expensive for me to afford so I ended up playing decks that were expensive at the end but the core was cheap(i.e. tempo rogue, which has cobalt scalebane, bonemare, etc. ) and I ended up crafting a lot of cards that fit into that deck like keleseth, vancleef, patches, sonya. so try to do this
3. When you're crafting cards, make them fit into not only the deck you play, but other decks. When I crafted sonya, I thought about maybe playing the quest later, and I did(this was before the second nerf)
4. After this, just go int he direction RNG takes you, the legends you pull should be the general archetypes you go for
5. Finally, try to craft "packages" for each class that fit into various archetypes. When I was a rogue main, I crafted some random paladin cards because patches made it possile to have a cheap aggro deck with any class. Then I made aggro druid, burn mage, spiteful priest, and other decks. Just try to branch out into all of the classes.
Secret hunter is also a viable archetype in wild. You will need to craft a few cards but that shouldn't cost over 5k dust.
Viable yes, but far from overpowered as in Standard. The big difference is that standard has a viable secret-destroying card. Wild does not have it, and no, the Inspector is 2 mana too expensive for it to include it in any deck. But even without it, there are other decks that outpace or outvalue Hunter in wild.
Secret hunter is also a viable archetype in wild. You will need to craft a few cards but that shouldn't cost over 5k dust.
Viable yes, but far from overpowered as in Standard. The big difference is that standard has a viable secret-destroying card. Wild does not have it, and no, the Inspector is 2 mana too expensive for it to include it in any deck. But even without it, there are other decks that outpace or outvalue Hunter in wild.
Did you read what I said at all?
Secret hunter isn't overpowered in standard, far from it. It has been steadily declining in playrate due to its counters and other hunter decks (i.e. hybrid hunter) just being better.
Wild doesn't have a card that standard does have? Mind explaining that one to me?
Wild secret hunter is favored against odd rogue and even shaman, two of the strongest and most prevalent decks in the format.
Well I am playing priest and it's no guarantee of a win Vs hunter. But if you're relying on the spellstone, you're going to have a tough run. Most of my losses come from Rexxar, midrange snowballing too quickly, recruit hunter hitting turn 8, or deathrattle hunter getting too much early traction. Secret hunter is very reactive.
Are you playing control Priest? You should be able to counter it with cards like Psychic Scream or Mass Hysteria. And then I run out of cards and just concede. I have Rexxar, but when I don't draw him I'm done. I have to save my Kill Command to trick my opponent into not healing so I have like 15 burst damage. It's a really bad strategy but it seems to be the only viable one. Should I just scrap the deck? I came from like a 60% winrate to like 40%
Hunter is meta and priest counters it. Play any build that controls until you can go over the top with Mind Blasts and the DK hero power, Psychic Scream away threatening boards, and use your Spirit Lash wisely to get big heal / clear plays.
I play a lot of hunter and my buddy is big into control and we found that more often than not, priest - when played wisely - is the best counter for hunter rn. It punishes most aggro, actually.
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Hunter seems to be the most solid all round class, which is why it sees the most play. Control Priest beats most versions of Hunter over 50% of the time (except Midrange Hunter, which is 54% in favour of the Hunter), and Paladins also counter Hunter (in that Odd, Even and Exodia Paladin all have positive win rates against 4 out of the 5 most popular Hunter archetypes - Odd paladin is favoured against all of them).
I will take this time to point out a really funny win last night. Playing my fatigue/quest priest against Hunter, it was a long fight. Hunter smartly got Rexxar out on turn 6, so I had to deal with 20 or so turns of zombeasts, which was fun but challenging. However, I stole a Zul'jin from him, which then (unbeknownst to me) restarted my quest. He had me down to about 9 health and both of us in fatigue when I played a second Zul'jin, which played my Twilight's Call, which to my surprise finished my quest. He rage-quitted after that.
Anyway, in all honesty, spell hunter strikes me as weak. I'm sure it has some good matchups, but if it wasn't for Rexxar, it would be a total joke of a deck. And it strikes me that there are better archetypes of Hunter that could slap Rexxar into the deck and do better.
Are you playing control Priest? You should be able to counter it with cards like Psychic Scream or Mass Hysteria. And then I run out of cards and just concede. I have Rexxar, but when I don't draw him I'm done. I have to save my Kill Command to trick my opponent into not healing so I have like 15 burst damage. It's a really bad strategy but it seems to be the only viable one. Should I just scrap the deck? I came from like a 60% winrate to like 40%
I am playing control priest. I understand the game plan, but hunter can exert lots of pressure with midrange and DR. If you don't draw dusk breaker and an activator, or scream by seven, hunter can do lots of damage, which means you're always trying to get breathing room. If the hunter drops lifesteal minions off Rexxar, they can make it hard to finish. Out of the hunter variants, spell and secret are the easiest to beat with priest. Not saying you don't have an edge, but it's hardly a foregone conclusion, especially since control priest doesn't pack a lot of draw.
Secret hunter is also a viable archetype in wild. You will need to craft a few cards but that shouldn't cost over 5k dust.
Viable yes, but far from overpowered as in Standard. The big difference is that standard has a viable secret-destroying card. Wild does not have it, and no, the Inspector is 2 mana too expensive for it to include it in any deck. But even without it, there are other decks that outpace or outvalue Hunter in wild.
I don't play wild but the card that steals a secret saw some marginal play back in the day
Quickly declining? More like completely disappeared. The so called Hybrid Hunter has become THE Secret Hunter - at least it's labeled as such on the main page.
Are you playing control Priest? You should be able to counter it with cards like Psychic Scream or Mass Hysteria. And then I run out of cards and just concede. I have Rexxar, but when I don't draw him I'm done. I have to save my Kill Command to trick my opponent into not healing so I have like 15 burst damage. It's a really bad strategy but it seems to be the only viable one. Should I just scrap the deck? I came from like a 60% winrate to like 40%
I am playing control priest. I understand the game plan, but hunter can exert lots of pressure with midrange and DR. If you don't draw dusk breaker and an activator, or scream by seven, hunter can do lots of damage, which means you're always trying to get breathing room. If the hunter drops lifesteal minions off Rexxar, they can make it hard to finish. Out of the hunter variants, spell and secret are the easiest to beat with priest. Not saying you don't have an edge, but it's hardly a foregone conclusion, especially since control priest doesn't pack a lot of draw.
If it's that much dependent on DK Rexxar, then my whole deck doesn't matter.
Hey guys, just a quick background:
I started playing Standard around the middle of the Boomsday expansion. I had opened some packs and found Subject 9. This was before I knew anything about the meta and such, so this was the first time I made a competitive deck instead of using auto-fill. So after a month or so, I got all the cards for the deck. I successfully climbed up to rank 10.
Then Rastakhan's Rumble came out. Zuljin [/card] was introduced(I don't have him, I'm a F2P and don't have enough resources to craft him), and the Hunter hate began. After a couple of weeks, my Hunter deck was absolutely useless against priest and warrior, due to my main finisher [card] Lesser Emerald Spellstone being countered by so many cards such as Duskbreaker and so many other cards. Now I just don't play Standard Ranked anymore because it's too anti-hunter.
So, is Hunter not the meta? Or is it like any other strong deck that has that one counter to it? Or maybe it's because I don't have Zuljin? I have old Boomsday Secret Hunter, so I don't have Masked Contender or any of those other cards that could improve my deck.
I'm thinking of playing Wild now, just to get away from Standard. Unfortunately I didn't make my decision fast enough before the Wild bundle was gone. What kind of Wild decks could I play? I would prefer about a 5,000 dust deck that performs well.
I'd love to hear your thoughts.
It’s kind of a terrible place to be if you need any legendaries right now. I need just two or one key legendaries for some decks that run 6 or 7 but unfortunately they will rotate soon so it’s kind of a weird limbo.
To answer you question tho hunter is definitely meta. Went up against probably 80 hunters today and I’m sooooo sick of them. Especially deathrattle.
It’s kind of a terrible place to be if you need any legendaries right now. I need just two or one key legendaries for some decks that run 6 or 7 but unfortunately they will rotate soon so it’s kind of a weird limbo.
To answer you question tho hunter is definitely meta. Went up against probably 80 hunters today and I’m sooooo sick of them. Especially deathrattle.
1. The wild bundle is still accessible if you access it via the battle.net online shop
2. I was once in the same position, I started playing around the beginning of KOFT and a lot of the cards were far too expensive for me to afford so I ended up playing decks that were expensive at the end but the core was cheap(i.e. tempo rogue, which has cobalt scalebane, bonemare, etc. ) and I ended up crafting a lot of cards that fit into that deck like keleseth, vancleef, patches, sonya. so try to do this
3. When you're crafting cards, make them fit into not only the deck you play, but other decks. When I crafted sonya, I thought about maybe playing the quest later, and I did(this was before the second nerf)
4. After this, just go int he direction RNG takes you, the legends you pull should be the general archetypes you go for
5. Finally, try to craft "packages" for each class that fit into various archetypes. When I was a rogue main, I crafted some random paladin cards because patches made it possile to have a cheap aggro deck with any class. Then I made aggro druid, burn mage, spiteful priest, and other decks. Just try to branch out into all of the classes.
Secret hunter is one of the worst hunter decks right now, quickly declining in play.
You could adjust your deck to the new hybrid hunter which should do a lot better in the current meta (zuljin is part of it though).
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/deck-library/hunter-decks/hybrid-hunter/timber-hybrid-hunter/
Secret hunter is also a viable archetype in wild. You will need to craft a few cards but that shouldn't cost over 5k dust.
https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/decks/secret-hunter-wild-meta-snapshot-jan-1-2019
Viable yes, but far from overpowered as in Standard. The big difference is that standard has a viable secret-destroying card. Wild does not have it, and no, the Inspector is 2 mana too expensive for it to include it in any deck. But even without it, there are other decks that outpace or outvalue Hunter in wild.
Did you read what I said at all?
Secret hunter isn't overpowered in standard, far from it. It has been steadily declining in playrate due to its counters and other hunter decks (i.e. hybrid hunter) just being better.
Wild doesn't have a card that standard does have? Mind explaining that one to me?
Wild secret hunter is favored against odd rogue and even shaman, two of the strongest and most prevalent decks in the format.
Hunter? Wish I meet some. Only getting odd pallys and priest all day...
Best card in HS? Mastercard.
when you are playing a meta deck you face the anti meta decks as hunter is the boogeyman RN
other decks are geared toward beating hunter
Well I am playing priest and it's no guarantee of a win Vs hunter. But if you're relying on the spellstone, you're going to have a tough run. Most of my losses come from Rexxar, midrange snowballing too quickly, recruit hunter hitting turn 8, or deathrattle hunter getting too much early traction. Secret hunter is very reactive.
Are you playing control Priest? You should be able to counter it with cards like Psychic Scream or Mass Hysteria. And then I run out of cards and just concede. I have Rexxar, but when I don't draw him I'm done. I have to save my Kill Command to trick my opponent into not healing so I have like 15 burst damage. It's a really bad strategy but it seems to be the only viable one. Should I just scrap the deck? I came from like a 60% winrate to like 40%
Hunter is meta and priest counters it. Play any build that controls until you can go over the top with Mind Blasts and the DK hero power, Psychic Scream away threatening boards, and use your Spirit Lash wisely to get big heal / clear plays.
I play a lot of hunter and my buddy is big into control and we found that more often than not, priest - when played wisely - is the best counter for hunter rn. It punishes most aggro, actually.
Rage quitting: the best way to ensure your opponent knows they beat a giant baby.
Hunter seems to be the most solid all round class, which is why it sees the most play. Control Priest beats most versions of Hunter over 50% of the time (except Midrange Hunter, which is 54% in favour of the Hunter), and Paladins also counter Hunter (in that Odd, Even and Exodia Paladin all have positive win rates against 4 out of the 5 most popular Hunter archetypes - Odd paladin is favoured against all of them).
As a priest player, keep the Hunter in the meta!
I will take this time to point out a really funny win last night. Playing my fatigue/quest priest against Hunter, it was a long fight. Hunter smartly got Rexxar out on turn 6, so I had to deal with 20 or so turns of zombeasts, which was fun but challenging. However, I stole a Zul'jin from him, which then (unbeknownst to me) restarted my quest. He had me down to about 9 health and both of us in fatigue when I played a second Zul'jin, which played my Twilight's Call, which to my surprise finished my quest. He rage-quitted after that.
Anyway, in all honesty, spell hunter strikes me as weak. I'm sure it has some good matchups, but if it wasn't for Rexxar, it would be a total joke of a deck. And it strikes me that there are better archetypes of Hunter that could slap Rexxar into the deck and do better.
I am playing control priest. I understand the game plan, but hunter can exert lots of pressure with midrange and DR. If you don't draw dusk breaker and an activator, or scream by seven, hunter can do lots of damage, which means you're always trying to get breathing room. If the hunter drops lifesteal minions off Rexxar, they can make it hard to finish. Out of the hunter variants, spell and secret are the easiest to beat with priest. Not saying you don't have an edge, but it's hardly a foregone conclusion, especially since control priest doesn't pack a lot of draw.
I don't play wild but the card that steals a secret saw some marginal play back in the day
Quickly declining? More like completely disappeared. The so called Hybrid Hunter has become THE Secret Hunter - at least it's labeled as such on the main page.
If it's that much dependent on DK Rexxar, then my whole deck doesn't matter.
Hunter pretty much dominates the matchmaking so yeah the meta is still very much Hunter and then Everything teched against hunter
The fact that all you see is counters to it is proof that it is the meta.