As everyone knows,Hearthstone could never balance all 9 classes to be at the same power level.Never!
And all i see lately are Hunter hate threads.Why is that?Doesn't hunter needs a chance to shine again?Isn't it his time to be at the top?Hunter hasn't been on the top since undertaker era..And as we all know every other class had a chance to be overpowered and at the top of the meta.The cycle went about a full rotation and now its Hunters time.
Every other class had already a meta of spotlight of some sorts.
Combo druid,Jade druid,Any other OTK variation of Druid. (most overpowered class consistantly until nerfs)
Any aggro variation of paladin was always t1,like cancerdin,secret paladin,odd paladin,also even paladin,combo paladin.
Aggro shaman,Midrange shaman (most oppresing deck in the History,even more than hunter)Even shaman,shudderwock
All those metas have existed and have in some way managed to oppress the meta,all after the most hated deck in history which was Undertaker Hunter.
Now,if you take all that in account and how many t1 decks every class has gone through,with Shaman and Druid being the most unhealthy for the longer periods of the game,lets take a look at hunter decks.
Face hunter(worked before there were a ton of heals and taunts,died due to Reno)never a t1 deck to be considered as game breaking.
Undertaker hunter(broker as hell ain't going to complain about that)was Hunter's most glorious days.
After that he had recently found his way back in with deathrattle hunter,and spell hunter before Zuljin was kinda a meme deck.
So Hunter hasn't rained supreme since 2014-15. Isn't his time to take back the spotlight while all other classes has had theirs for many turns before fading away..?And all that just for a few months before the rotation hits and most of his strong tools rotate to wild.
I know that his is oppressive to the meta,but he is in no way shape or form unbeatable.So just let the cycle to actually rotate,and stop hating on the class..It's power level will drop significantly after the rotation,like many other classes,and another oppressive deck will rise,whos turn it is i don't know,but remember.
Every class will have it's turn to shine.Don't hate that the class that was in line,wasn't your favorite class.
As a side note,i don't play hunter,this is not a rant to cover my most played class or something along the lines.I mostly play warrior and Druid.
I agree. I really don't mind Hunter being at the power level he is right now.
Having played through Undertaker Hunter, Leeroy/Shadowstep Tempo Rogue and some wierd and funky OTK Decks in the beginning, I'm now at the state where I really don't give a shit about the Meta and play what I want.
As I said in a few other Threads about this subject, it's Cyclical. In a few months time people will be moaning about how Mage is the New Hotness. Just wait...
I don't necessarily hate hunter. Spell Hunter , Deathrattle Hunter and Secret Hunter are all ok matchups ( fun wise ) . None of those irritate me the way Reno Priest / Pirate Warrior / Undertaker Hunter...etc did. I just think that hunter is a bit too powerful right now with multiple tier 1 decks. Those decks arent really new either since all of them existed before this expansion too ( Spell Hunter and Secret Hunter were not memes, they were tier 2 decks at the time )
That's why I think Blizzard should have nerfed somethingi in hunter along with the last nerfs they did. Maybe they do another wave of nerfs this expack since the first one was so early.
I agree that hunter is not the bully that the whiners make it to be but if they want to whine, then let them. Who cares? These threads that whine about others whining are silly.
I have never really voiced dislike for any deck on forums so I'm not really the target of OP, but as I see it there are 2 main reasons to 'hate' hunter at the moment.
First is the usual matter of it being top dog currently and people are just fed up of playing against it. This doesn't mean they hate it because it's hunter specifically. In fact I would wager if there was a deck that truly was tier 0, but for whatever reason almost nobody played it, then there would be no hate threads about it. Basically, the frequency of facing it is more important than the power or the class.
Second is Deathstalker Rexxar. Not because it is particularly overpowered overall, but because it is a single card that turns match-ups the hunter should be weak against into match-ups the hunter does well against. You then ask yourself, 'how do I counter these hunter decks?', and find yourself with a decent answer for 29 of the 30 cards, but the 30th (Rexxar) undoes everything.
Funnily enough, I saw relatively little "Hunter hate" in that thread. Mostly it was aimed at Odd Rogue, Odd Paladin and Big Priest, and that is if you consider calling a deck "no skill" hate, regardless of the truth of it.
Of course, to some people, a single post might be enough to rustle their jimmies into making a new thread.
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Start of Year: Provoke the failure of 3 expansions, force nerfs on otherwise balanced cards, bring deckbuilding to an all-time low and get rotated one year earlier for being such a threat to the game's health. - Genn and Baku's historical entry on the White Book of Shit Design, shortly before retiring unpunished
Undertaker Hunter, now that takes me back. I would love a brawl where they un-nerf (and un-HoF) everything to post-beta. Patron, Blade Flurry Rogue, Pirates, Crazy-ass Innervate Druid with Tinkmaster. Talk about the festival of broken versus broken fun.
If you don't understand why people don't like particular classes being overrepresented in matchmaking, then I congratulate you on being Blizzard's perfect toady...I mean "customer". Well done.
Hunter is Brittany Spears, and its defenders are that wailing effeminate guy.
Fix your mascara and move on with your life. Brittany will be fine.
I wished people then didn't hate Shudderwock and Druid even though they were Tier 3 and 2.
If that didn't stop them, it won't be now with Hunter with ~35% popularity, 3 or 4 tier 1 decks and facing them like almost all the damn time.
And I really can't comprehend the people "Let class X shine this time!" and similar nonsense, as if that was an excuse for the power level and representation of the class currently.
Younglings don't remember the previous two Mega-hunter metas.
- Undertaker Hunter, tier S deck.
- Face Hunter, top of tier 1 deck.
Also there have been multiple metas where hybrid hunter and mid-range hunter have fluctuated from tier 1 to tier 2.
Personally I like deathrattle hunter...its the slowest successful hunter deck we've seen, it has some really cool combos and it's full of flavour.
Emerald spellstone though, that card is just poorly designed, the pay off too high and too early at turn 5 if you mulligan with luck. High roll cards that come into play too early suck for everyone, and reduce the skill in the game.
Aggro hunter is always bad for the game, but sadly its consistantly been hte deck blizzard seems to want new players to use, as its so cheap. Either that or some kind of aggro paladin. Pay-to-have-fun sucks.
Wait a moment... Unknown27, why this worries you so much? Why don't you just let people be people? Not trying to be offensive here, but seriously OP, you are complaining about the behaviour of this amazing community almost all the time. Why do we bother you so much? What are we guilty of? :(
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As everyone knows,Hearthstone could never balance all 9 classes to be at the same power level.Never!
And all i see lately are Hunter hate threads.Why is that?Doesn't hunter needs a chance to shine again?Isn't it his time to be at the top?Hunter hasn't been on the top since undertaker era..And as we all know every other class had a chance to be overpowered and at the top of the meta.The cycle went about a full rotation and now its Hunters time.
Every other class had already a meta of spotlight of some sorts.
Miracle Rogue,Oil rogue,Tempo keleseth rogue,odd rogue.
Control warrior,patron warrior,pirate warrior.
Dragon priest,Razakus priest.
Freeze mage,Reno mage,Exodia mage,secret mage.
Handlock,renolock ,Cubelock,Evenlock.
Combo druid,Jade druid,Any other OTK variation of Druid. (most overpowered class consistantly until nerfs)
Any aggro variation of paladin was always t1,like cancerdin,secret paladin,odd paladin,also even paladin,combo paladin.
Aggro shaman,Midrange shaman (most oppresing deck in the History,even more than hunter)Even shaman,shudderwock
All those metas have existed and have in some way managed to oppress the meta,all after the most hated deck in history which was Undertaker Hunter.
Now,if you take all that in account and how many t1 decks every class has gone through,with Shaman and Druid being the most unhealthy for the longer periods of the game,lets take a look at hunter decks.
Face hunter(worked before there were a ton of heals and taunts,died due to Reno)never a t1 deck to be considered as game breaking.
Undertaker hunter(broker as hell ain't going to complain about that)was Hunter's most glorious days.
After that he had recently found his way back in with deathrattle hunter,and spell hunter before Zuljin was kinda a meme deck.
So Hunter hasn't rained supreme since 2014-15. Isn't his time to take back the spotlight while all other classes has had theirs for many turns before fading away..?And all that just for a few months before the rotation hits and most of his strong tools rotate to wild.
I know that his is oppressive to the meta,but he is in no way shape or form unbeatable.So just let the cycle to actually rotate,and stop hating on the class..It's power level will drop significantly after the rotation,like many other classes,and another oppressive deck will rise,whos turn it is i don't know,but remember.
Every class will have it's turn to shine.Don't hate that the class that was in line,wasn't your favorite class.
As a side note,i don't play hunter,this is not a rant to cover my most played class or something along the lines.I mostly play warrior and Druid.
Just my 2 cents.
Just Another Legend Player#Kappa
i'm expecting a lot of negative/positive comment in this thread
Blizz, can i play class other than paladin?
Im used to getting bashed for speaking my mind in this forum lol
Just Another Legend Player#Kappa
I agree. I really don't mind Hunter being at the power level he is right now.
Having played through Undertaker Hunter, Leeroy/Shadowstep Tempo Rogue and some wierd and funky OTK Decks in the beginning, I'm now at the state where I really don't give a shit about the Meta and play what I want.
As I said in a few other Threads about this subject, it's Cyclical. In a few months time people will be moaning about how Mage is the New Hotness. Just wait...
4/3/19 RIP Keith Flint. 😔
Yeah exactly,it's how its been and how it is going to be for ever..It didn't change all this time,why would it change now?
Just Another Legend Player#Kappa
I don't necessarily hate hunter. Spell Hunter , Deathrattle Hunter and Secret Hunter are all ok matchups ( fun wise ) . None of those irritate me the way Reno Priest / Pirate Warrior / Undertaker Hunter...etc did. I just think that hunter is a bit too powerful right now with multiple tier 1 decks. Those decks arent really new either since all of them existed before this expansion too ( Spell Hunter and Secret Hunter were not memes, they were tier 2 decks at the time )
That's why I think Blizzard should have nerfed somethingi in hunter along with the last nerfs they did. Maybe they do another wave of nerfs this expack since the first one was so early.
Stop makeing senseless threads!
when were decks like exodia mage, shudderwock shaman, even paladin etc. as oppressive (and overrepresentated) in the meta as hunter is right now?
How about NO the deck stinks, stop playing it and then we stop
Skidaddle skidoodle your Milhouse manastorm is now a noodle
Let people do what they want to do jeez...
I agree that hunter is not the bully that the whiners make it to be but if they want to whine, then let them. Who cares? These threads that whine about others whining are silly.
They weren't,but each and every one of these classes has had a deck that oppressed the meta...But all those decks are t1 decks.
Just Another Legend Player#Kappa
I'm just getting sick of tired of seeying Deathstalker Rexar in every single hunter deck.
Further I'm fine with Hunter being top tier.
I have never really voiced dislike for any deck on forums so I'm not really the target of OP, but as I see it there are 2 main reasons to 'hate' hunter at the moment.
First is the usual matter of it being top dog currently and people are just fed up of playing against it. This doesn't mean they hate it because it's hunter specifically. In fact I would wager if there was a deck that truly was tier 0, but for whatever reason almost nobody played it, then there would be no hate threads about it. Basically, the frequency of facing it is more important than the power or the class.
Second is Deathstalker Rexxar. Not because it is particularly overpowered overall, but because it is a single card that turns match-ups the hunter should be weak against into match-ups the hunter does well against. You then ask yourself, 'how do I counter these hunter decks?', and find yourself with a decent answer for 29 of the 30 cards, but the 30th (Rexxar) undoes everything.
Funnily enough, I saw relatively little "Hunter hate" in that thread. Mostly it was aimed at Odd Rogue, Odd Paladin and Big Priest, and that is if you consider calling a deck "no skill" hate, regardless of the truth of it.
Of course, to some people, a single post might be enough to rustle their jimmies into making a new thread.
Start of Year: Provoke the failure of 3 expansions, force nerfs on otherwise balanced cards, bring deckbuilding to an all-time low and get rotated one year earlier for being such a threat to the game's health.
- Genn and Baku's historical entry on the White Book of Shit Design, shortly before retiring unpunished
Undertaker Hunter, now that takes me back. I would love a brawl where they un-nerf (and un-HoF) everything to post-beta. Patron, Blade Flurry Rogue, Pirates, Crazy-ass Innervate Druid with Tinkmaster. Talk about the festival of broken versus broken fun.
Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
Hunter is just not fun to play against imo.
If you don't understand why people don't like particular classes being overrepresented in matchmaking, then I congratulate you on being Blizzard's perfect toady...I mean "customer". Well done.
Hunter is Brittany Spears, and its defenders are that wailing effeminate guy.
Fix your mascara and move on with your life. Brittany will be fine.
I wished people then didn't hate Shudderwock and Druid even though they were Tier 3 and 2.
If that didn't stop them, it won't be now with Hunter with ~35% popularity, 3 or 4 tier 1 decks and facing them like almost all the damn time.
And I really can't comprehend the people "Let class X shine this time!" and similar nonsense, as if that was an excuse for the power level and representation of the class currently.
Younglings don't remember the previous two Mega-hunter metas.
- Undertaker Hunter, tier S deck.
- Face Hunter, top of tier 1 deck.
Also there have been multiple metas where hybrid hunter and mid-range hunter have fluctuated from tier 1 to tier 2.
Personally I like deathrattle hunter...its the slowest successful hunter deck we've seen, it has some really cool combos and it's full of flavour.
Emerald spellstone though, that card is just poorly designed, the pay off too high and too early at turn 5 if you mulligan with luck. High roll cards that come into play too early suck for everyone, and reduce the skill in the game.
Aggro hunter is always bad for the game, but sadly its consistantly been hte deck blizzard seems to want new players to use, as its so cheap. Either that or some kind of aggro paladin. Pay-to-have-fun sucks.
Wait a moment... Unknown27, why this worries you so much? Why don't you just let people be people? Not trying to be offensive here, but seriously OP, you are complaining about the behaviour of this amazing community almost all the time. Why do we bother you so much? What are we guilty of? :(