I mean, I'm a fairly average player. I don't normally get decks that perform this well usually. ^_^
I would say that the biggest auto-win card for me has to be Zul'jin. I previously stated that I thought this card was a problem and needed attention. I'd now like to withdraw that comment in case Blizzard actually take note and stop my free-win card from being so good! Ahem...!
In seriousness though, I find myself wondering if there is a reasonable way to address Hunter currently. I think that the game really would benefit from more anti-secret options myself. It seems so strange that a secret-dominated meta like this doesnt have more neutral answers.
I had a 12 streak with discard lock so . . . proof?
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ehhh maybe in standard but definitely not in wild, and standard is what it is, nothing we can do about it except more and more nerfs, balancing is hard :)
And zuljin is pretty bad to be honest, you most likely would have won anyways, its not as big of a tempo swing as for example DK gul'dan or n'zoth is
ehhh maybe in standard but definitely not in wild, and standard is what it is, nothing we can do about it except more and more nerfs, balancing is hard :)
And zuljin is pretty bad to be honest, you most likely would have won anyways, its not as big of a tempo swing as for example DK gul'dan or n'zoth is
I simply can't overstate how many games I have won purely on Zul'jin topdecks winning the game for me. Until you have seen it / tried it, it's hard to believe :-)
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That’s a pretty good streak then! I shamefully piloted Secret Hunter from Rank 12-5 in one afternoon over the Holiday break. I had a Flare teched in, and when I played Zul'jin and destroyed all of their Mage/Hunter secrets for the second time, most of them conceded immediately.
It’s more of a Hail Mary card. A full board of 3/3s and beasts with traps isn’t unbeatable if your opponent has a decent board or hand to work with, and if they don’t have a decent board and hand, you’d probably win anyway. So again, the card is usually pulled when the hunter is under 10-15 health, and threatened with checkmate. It’s just an “Oh $#!t” card, albeit a very good one.
After at least 3 new threads about hunter every single day there are no more informative and useful opinions. Class is strong, we get it, people should stop spamming the forum with hunter threads
After at least 3 new threads about hunter every single day there are no more informative and useful opinions. Class is strong, we get it, people should stop spamming the forum with hunter threads
Why should they? You could always just not click the hunter titled post? Or is that too outrageous?
It is spamming and constant whining. Everything else is drowned in a sea of QQ threads. You could always just go to the salt thread. Or is that too outrageous?
Zuljin is a card that is strong because of the cards that are currently in the Standard Set. Hunter has a couple of incredibly good spells. Emerald Spellstone being the absolute best of them. I wonder if it is still good once the spellstone, Flanking Strike, Wandering Monster and To my Side rotates out.
That being said, I don't think anyone doubts Hunter being the top dog right now.
After at least 3 new threads about hunter every single day there are no more informative and useful opinions. Class is strong, we get it, people should stop spamming the forum with hunter threads
Why should they? You could always just not click the hunter titled post? Or is that too outrageous?
It is spamming and constant whining. Everything else is drowned in a sea of QQ threads. You could always just go to the salt thread. Or is that too outrageous?
What is being drowned out? It's not like the post you're interested in is being buried by a plethora of hunter posts. There isn't that many new posts a day.
At almost any point in the day the front page is something like this:
80 g trade/ pepper/ salt
hunter qq 1
hunter qq 2
something not hunter qq related
some other qq thread, probably again a hunter related thread
Whenever anything else peaks its head it is quickly slammed by hunter qq threads. We have a slat thread for a reason, why do people refuse to use it is beyond me.
After at least 3 new threads about hunter every single day there are no more informative and useful opinions. Class is strong, we get it, people should stop spamming the forum with hunter threads
Why should they? You could always just not click the hunter titled post? Or is that too outrageous?
It is spamming and constant whining. Everything else is drowned in a sea of QQ threads. You could always just go to the salt thread. Or is that too outrageous?
What is being drowned out? It's not like the post you're interested in is being buried by a plethora of hunter posts. There isn't that many new posts a day.
At almost any point in the day the front page is something like this:
80 g trade/ pepper/ salt
hunter qq 1
hunter qq 2
something not hunter qq related
some other qq thread, probably again a hunter related thread
Whenever anything else peaks its head it is quickly slammed by hunter qq threads. We have a slat thread for a reason, why do people refuse to use it is beyond me.
Because people love to bitch about something and right now Hunter is the top target. Before that it was Druid. It's obnoxious. And they post as if they are the first ones to discover how OP something is. We get it. Hunter is super popular. Everybody knows. And guess what? It can be beaten. Deal with it.
According to the stats, secret hunter is actually not enhanced by Zul'jin, only spell hunter. Both decks are trashed by odd quest warrior and various paladin. Hunter is only S-tier at rank 19 and 20, below that nothing is above 55%.
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I mean, I'm a fairly average player. I don't normally get decks that perform this well usually. ^_^
I would say that the biggest auto-win card for me has to be Zul'jin. I previously stated that I thought this card was a problem and needed attention. I'd now like to withdraw that comment in case Blizzard actually take note and stop my free-win card from being so good! Ahem...!
In seriousness though, I find myself wondering if there is a reasonable way to address Hunter currently. I think that the game really would benefit from more anti-secret options myself. It seems so strange that a secret-dominated meta like this doesnt have more neutral answers.
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I see what's going on. Hunter can be beaten fairly easily. People would just rather complain than adapt, but that's not really anything new.
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He's pretty much Yogg 2.0, for obvious reasons, but mainly because he's an "oh shit" button and 80% swings the game back in your favor and 20% doesn't get you a an otherwise unobtainable win.
Very, very frustrating. Nothing like being a turn away from winning then instantly losing after they play this card. Yogg all over again.
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I mean, I'm a fairly average player.
I don't normally get decks that perform this well usually. ^_^
I would say that the biggest auto-win card for me has to be Zul'jin.
I previously stated that I thought this card was a problem and needed attention. I'd now like to withdraw that comment in case Blizzard actually take note and stop my free-win card from being so good!
Ahem...!
In seriousness though, I find myself wondering if there is a reasonable way to address Hunter currently. I think that the game really would benefit from more anti-secret options myself. It seems so strange that a secret-dominated meta like this doesnt have more neutral answers.
I had a 12 streak with discard lock so . . . proof?
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ehhh maybe in standard but definitely not in wild, and standard is what it is, nothing we can do about it except more and more nerfs, balancing is hard :)
And zuljin is pretty bad to be honest, you most likely would have won anyways, its not as big of a tempo swing as for example DK gul'dan or n'zoth is
If you say so.
Last I checked, 15 was more than 12. But I'm no statistician, so I guess you must be the expert... :-D
I simply can't overstate how many games I have won purely on Zul'jin topdecks winning the game for me.
Until you have seen it / tried it, it's hard to believe :-)
Standard or Wild? Casual or Ranked? What rank if ranked? Context helps the reader contribute to the conversation.
Standard. Rank 4 (currently)
Feel free to ask me any other info. Happy to offer further for analysis where possible
That’s a pretty good streak then! I shamefully piloted Secret Hunter from Rank 12-5 in one afternoon over the Holiday break. I had a Flare teched in, and when I played Zul'jin and destroyed all of their Mage/Hunter secrets for the second time, most of them conceded immediately.
Just stop
Nice! Informative and useful opinion there. XD
It’s more of a Hail Mary card. A full board of 3/3s and beasts with traps isn’t unbeatable if your opponent has a decent board or hand to work with, and if they don’t have a decent board and hand, you’d probably win anyway. So again, the card is usually pulled when the hunter is under 10-15 health, and threatened with checkmate. It’s just an “Oh $#!t” card, albeit a very good one.
After at least 3 new threads about hunter every single day there are no more informative and useful opinions. Class is strong, we get it, people should stop spamming the forum with hunter threads
It is spamming and constant whining. Everything else is drowned in a sea of QQ threads. You could always just go to the salt thread. Or is that too outrageous?
Hunter just made it possible for me to hit legend for the first time... by playing odd pally :)
Zuljin is a card that is strong because of the cards that are currently in the Standard Set. Hunter has a couple of incredibly good spells. Emerald Spellstone being the absolute best of them. I wonder if it is still good once the spellstone, Flanking Strike, Wandering Monster and To my Side rotates out.
That being said, I don't think anyone doubts Hunter being the top dog right now.
At almost any point in the day the front page is something like this:
80 g trade/ pepper/ salt
hunter qq 1
hunter qq 2
something not hunter qq related
some other qq thread, probably again a hunter related thread
Whenever anything else peaks its head it is quickly slammed by hunter qq threads. We have a slat thread for a reason, why do people refuse to use it is beyond me.
Because people love to bitch about something and right now Hunter is the top target. Before that it was Druid. It's obnoxious. And they post as if they are the first ones to discover how OP something is. We get it. Hunter is super popular. Everybody knows. And guess what? It can be beaten. Deal with it.
According to the stats, secret hunter is actually not enhanced by Zul'jin, only spell hunter. Both decks are trashed by odd quest warrior and various paladin. Hunter is only S-tier at rank 19 and 20, below that nothing is above 55%.
Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
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I see what's going on. Hunter can be beaten fairly easily. People would just rather complain than adapt, but that's not really anything new.
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He's pretty much Yogg 2.0, for obvious reasons, but mainly because he's an "oh shit" button and 80% swings the game back in your favor and 20% doesn't get you a an otherwise unobtainable win.
Very, very frustrating. Nothing like being a turn away from winning then instantly losing after they play this card. Yogg all over again.
Nature is the Day.
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Woman is the Moon.
The Stone is the Sky.
The Art is the Way.