Community: "What a garbage game, change the polarization, nerf Druid and Kingsbane and Odd Pally and Shudderwock!"
Team5: "We've listened to your requests and looked critically at the problematic cards. Here are our nerfs!"
Community: "Now refund us in dust for all the cards that were part of the deck that included the nerfed cards!"
Here we go again. It's not enough that Blizzard decided to listen to the community, the community demands dust for basically all cards in these decks.
You could make an argument for Kingsbane, this I believe. However, Kingsbane on his own, was never problematic. It was his interaction with Leeching Poison that made it frustrating to play against. So, they nerfed the perfect card. I believe Kingsbane could still be playable, but needs to be more on the Control-side now. So why offer refunds for Kingsbane?
Same goes for Shudderwock. That card is not dead now, it's just less degenerate this way. So they nerfed the perfect card. And don't even get me started on Druid. The nerfed cards are in EVERY deck, so you wish to get refunded for EVERY card? And for Odd Pally?
They nerfed the perfect cards, and we know it. Thus, they follow policy to not refund other cards. It's not that strange.
The truth has been spoken. It seems that this communitz will bitch about literally anything. I for one, am verry happy with the current nerfs
For people that don't dust their cards this is an absolute gold mine for dust. So the point of increasing dust refunds is just plain stupid as these people would gain so much dust they'd bust a nut.
I don't really see why people want compensation for playing a degenerate deck in the first place. All the decks that were nerfed will still be playable post nerfs. Won't be as strong, but playable.
If you crafted Kingsbane in hopes to play a Tier 1 deck well, jokes on you.
If they do end up giving away those golden packs then this year will most likely be the most generous year that Blizzard has ever been in Hearthstone and that is still something to note.
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Everyone here: "stfu b*tch you deserved these nerfs".
Did anybody bother actually reading the OP?
The OP IS NOT bitching about the nerfs. BUT about refund policy.
They are OBVIOUSLY nerfing current Kingsbane decks to oblivion, which is a good thing, and nobody here disagreed about the nerf.
Btw, Shudderwock is in a pretty similar situation. It is apparent that they are nerfing cheap cards to hit legendaries. It is actually in the nerf explanation.
But they are giving 80 dust refund instead of 1600.
Only spellstone ? What about rexar ? It should be at least 8/9 since it has best hero power in game in terms of value. Not to mention it usualy clears board on 6.
give double amount of dust per card nerfed... for maximum of 2 cards... if you have more copies you get dust refund as normal for the remaining... this way you get more dust per card nerfed...
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Anyone with two eyes on their face could have seen the kingsbane and odd pally nerf coming from a mile away. You wanted cheap wins, you got cheap wins. And now you get to deal with the consequences. Blizzard is not responsible for how you waste your dust.
Also Blizzard is telling u that u need to buy more packs. In a realy shitty manner. I want sustain for rogues i realy want some sustain. All classes more or less have reliable way of healing/gaining armor. "It goes against our policy for the class" Well it goes aginst my policy to buy your shit at all so i gues we are even?
Kingsbane Rogue is very fair deck, at least in wild, where I usually play. Even with goldfish it is to hard to counter fast decks, which are dominating the ladder - odd pally, even shaman, pirate warrior, odd rogue, secret hunter. My main decks are Reno lock and Even shaman and I lose 1 game in 10 games against kingsbane on rank 5-1. The only good archetype for KbR is big priest. And now BP will be out of control.
Hearthstone community: "Blizzard do something about these decks, they are too powerful." Blizzard: *Changes said decks* Community: "OMG how dare you, I just crafted all that stuff, now give me a refund".
At this rate Blizzard should just never do balance changes, people bitch a moan either way.
I think it is pretty obvious that the people within the community who want a dust refund aren't the same people who were clamouring for nerfs for months.
Everyone here: "stfu b*tch you deserved these nerfs".
Did anybody bother actually reading the OP?
The OP IS NOT bitching about the nerfs. BUT about refund policy.
They are OBVIOUSLY nerfing current Kingsbane decks to oblivion, which is a good thing, and nobody here disagreed about the nerf.
Btw, Shudderwock is in a pretty similar situation. It is apparent that they are nerfing cheap cards to hit legendaries. It is actually in the nerf explanation.
But they are giving 80 dust refund instead of 1600.
How is that fair?
It is fair to punish net deckers in general .
Because after grinding casual daily with their tier 1 decks for 30 wins ,preying on play-testers on the first day of a new expansion ,and reaching Rank 5 every season for a Golden Epic all with never-ending emotes that reassures them how much of a great player they are for 3+ expansions in a row ,we should grant them compensation and show them gratefulness by giving them a full dust refund for their peaceful non-cancerous deck ?
They nerfed cards which caused the issue. Why would they nerf kingsbane? Card is fine. Just not with lifesteal. Same goes for other nerfs.
there was anoter possibility for kingsbane, keep the permanent lifesteal and nerf it to a 1/2, it would still severly reduce the power of the deck and keep it on a playable status because the third charge per tutor actually stacked up really hard in the long run, all this nerf does is turning kingsbane into yet another aggro face list, instead of the lategame driven predator that kept big priest in control
Everyone here: "stfu b*tch you deserved these nerfs".
Did anybody bother actually reading the OP?
The OP IS NOT bitching about the nerfs. BUT about refund policy.
They are OBVIOUSLY nerfing current Kingsbane decks to oblivion, which is a good thing, and nobody here disagreed about the nerf.
Btw, Shudderwock is in a pretty similar situation. It is apparent that they are nerfing cheap cards to hit legendaries. It is actually in the nerf explanation.
But they are giving 80 dust refund instead of 1600.
How is that fair?
Dude. The problems not Kingsbane or shudderwalk. It’s giving a one mana weapon that stacks permanent lifesteal. It’s giving shudderwok a permanent way to go infinite
the issues were with leeching poison and chain gang. But you are to blinded by blizzards unfair to see this .
Everyone here: "stfu b*tch you deserved these nerfs".
Did anybody bother actually reading the OP?
The OP IS NOT bitching about the nerfs. BUT about refund policy.
They are OBVIOUSLY nerfing current Kingsbane decks to oblivion, which is a good thing, and nobody here disagreed about the nerf.
Btw, Shudderwock is in a pretty similar situation. It is apparent that they are nerfing cheap cards to hit legendaries. It is actually in the nerf explanation.
But they are giving 80 dust refund instead of 1600.
How is that fair?
It is fair to punish net deckers in general .
Because after grinding casual daily with their tier 1 decks for 30 wins ,preying on play-testers on the first day of a new expansion ,and reaching Rank 5 every season for a Golden Epic all with never-ending emotes that reassures them how much of a great player they are for 3+ expansions in a row ,we should grant them compensation and show them gratefulness by giving them a full dust refund for their peaceful non-cancerous deck ?
I crafted Kingsbane on day 1 of KAC. I WAS THE FREAKING PLAY-TESTER (but I ended up on my usual Tempo decks afterall). Ofc the deck is degenerate (after so much deckbuilding and refinement). Ofc it deserved the nerf!
But people saying Kingsbane players deserved punishment are just retarded flamers.
Like. Punishment. For cards released by Blizzard. How stupid can one be to even think something like that? It's actually useless to discuss, because clearly logic is too much for such "thinkers"...
I feel like if you invested dust into a card just to abuse one dominant archetype (despite that card being useful in a number of other decks) you deserve it.
i ccrafted Kingsbane way back when, found it boring and stopped using it. Now that it's no longer as binary I might try to make Pirate Tempo Kingsbane work again. Same goes for Shudderwock. Super combo might be dead, but that just means a bunch of previously unimpressive deckbuilds can work. Seaforium Bomber and Murmuring Elemental come to mind.
Man, I really dodged a bullet here. Patiently gathered dust and decided to craft Malygos Druid, and lucky me, I only needed Malfurion and Alexstrasza (and Alex is classic). Was thinking on crafting Toggwaggle and Kingsbane Rogue (needed Kingsbane, Greenskin and 2x Doomerang) as well, but decided to play much more with Malygos until focusing on a new deck. That patience just saved me tons of dust.
But yes, I do feel really bad for whoever crafted them, specially if it was from scratch and not long ago.
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LUL Blizz doesn't give a shit. It was always like this
The truth has been spoken. It seems that this communitz will bitch about literally anything. I for one, am verry happy with the current nerfs
Moving into https://outof.cards/members/firepaladinhs/decks
For people that don't dust their cards this is an absolute gold mine for dust. So the point of increasing dust refunds is just plain stupid as these people would gain so much dust they'd bust a nut.
I don't really see why people want compensation for playing a degenerate deck in the first place. All the decks that were nerfed will still be playable post nerfs. Won't be as strong, but playable.
If you crafted Kingsbane in hopes to play a Tier 1 deck well, jokes on you.
If they do end up giving away those golden packs then this year will most likely be the most generous year that Blizzard has ever been in Hearthstone and that is still something to note.
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Blizzard should provide a better economy or payment model, its too expensive to play this game.
maybe give the option of monthly subscription and get access to full collection,
Or, buy entire expansion for X dollars.
this dust/crafting model is unfair anymore,
you want people to craft new decks/ play different things - but they cant afford this!
Everyone here: "stfu b*tch you deserved these nerfs".
Did anybody bother actually reading the OP?
The OP IS NOT bitching about the nerfs. BUT about refund policy.
They are OBVIOUSLY nerfing current Kingsbane decks to oblivion, which is a good thing, and nobody here disagreed about the nerf.
Btw, Shudderwock is in a pretty similar situation. It is apparent that they are nerfing cheap cards to hit legendaries. It is actually in the nerf explanation.
But they are giving 80 dust refund instead of 1600.
How is that fair?
Only spellstone ? What about rexar ? It should be at least 8/9 since it has best hero power in game in terms of value. Not to mention it usualy clears board on 6.
give double amount of dust per card nerfed... for maximum of 2 cards... if you have more copies you get dust refund as normal for the remaining... this way you get more dust per card nerfed...
To live is to suffer, to survive is to find meaning in the suffer!
LOL, this thread is hilarious. Blizzard did the right thing this time and yet some people are still complaining.
Get rekt for playing cancerous decks and leave Blizzard alone!!!
Because Leeching Poison is the card that's being changed, not Kingsbane.
What isn't fair, is expecting to get compensation for a card that isn't changed at all.
Anyone with two eyes on their face could have seen the kingsbane and odd pally nerf coming from a mile away. You wanted cheap wins, you got cheap wins. And now you get to deal with the consequences. Blizzard is not responsible for how you waste your dust.
Why u hav to be mad? is only card gaem.
Also Blizzard is telling u that u need to buy more packs. In a realy shitty manner. I want sustain for rogues i realy want some sustain. All classes more or less have reliable way of healing/gaining armor. "It goes against our policy for the class" Well it goes aginst my policy to buy your shit at all so i gues we are even?
Kingsbane Rogue is very fair deck, at least in wild, where I usually play. Even with goldfish it is to hard to counter fast decks, which are dominating the ladder - odd pally, even shaman, pirate warrior, odd rogue, secret hunter. My main decks are Reno lock and Even shaman and I lose 1 game in 10 games against kingsbane on rank 5-1. The only good archetype for KbR is big priest. And now BP will be out of control.
rip BigPriestBane.
I think it is pretty obvious that the people within the community who want a dust refund aren't the same people who were clamouring for nerfs for months.
Oh, poor, poor people. You are gonna make me cry...
Nah, not really. XD
It is fair to punish net deckers in general .
Because after grinding casual daily with their tier 1 decks for 30 wins ,preying on play-testers on the first day of a new expansion ,and reaching Rank 5 every season for a Golden Epic all with never-ending emotes that reassures them how much of a great player they are for 3+ expansions in a row ,we should grant them compensation and show them gratefulness by giving them a full dust refund for their peaceful non-cancerous deck ?
there was anoter possibility for kingsbane, keep the permanent lifesteal and nerf it to a 1/2, it would still severly reduce the power of the deck and keep it on a playable status because the third charge per tutor actually stacked up really hard in the long run, all this nerf does is turning kingsbane into yet another aggro face list, instead of the lategame driven predator that kept big priest in control
Dude. The problems not Kingsbane or shudderwalk. It’s giving a one mana weapon that stacks permanent lifesteal. It’s giving shudderwok a permanent way to go infinite
the issues were with leeching poison and chain gang. But you are to blinded by blizzards unfair to see this .
I crafted Kingsbane on day 1 of KAC. I WAS THE FREAKING PLAY-TESTER (but I ended up on my usual Tempo decks afterall). Ofc the deck is degenerate (after so much deckbuilding and refinement). Ofc it deserved the nerf!
But people saying Kingsbane players deserved punishment are just retarded flamers.
Like. Punishment. For cards released by Blizzard. How stupid can one be to even think something like that? It's actually useless to discuss, because clearly logic is too much for such "thinkers"...
I feel like if you invested dust into a card just to abuse one dominant archetype (despite that card being useful in a number of other decks) you deserve it.
i ccrafted Kingsbane way back when, found it boring and stopped using it. Now that it's no longer as binary I might try to make Pirate Tempo Kingsbane work again. Same goes for Shudderwock. Super combo might be dead, but that just means a bunch of previously unimpressive deckbuilds can work. Seaforium Bomber and Murmuring Elemental come to mind.
I tried having fun once. It was awful.
Man, I really dodged a bullet here. Patiently gathered dust and decided to craft Malygos Druid, and lucky me, I only needed Malfurion and Alexstrasza (and Alex is classic). Was thinking on crafting Toggwaggle and Kingsbane Rogue (needed Kingsbane, Greenskin and 2x Doomerang) as well, but decided to play much more with Malygos until focusing on a new deck. That patience just saved me tons of dust.
But yes, I do feel really bad for whoever crafted them, specially if it was from scratch and not long ago.