So I have a good chunk of dust from Rumble left over and i'm having trouble deciding how to spend it. I'm thinking of 3 different options
Kingsbane rogue. The deck always interested me but it didn't seem quite good enough for me to craft all the things for it. It seems so much better now so this is the last chance to pull the trigger on it. I generally like anti control decks and i played a few games with the borrow decks feature and it feels fun. I don't play wild because i only have standard cards but I was thinking about starting to play wild after rotation since i have a good standard collection and i know kingsbane is good there. My only concern is the meta might shape in a way that phases it out, but of course there is no way to know this for sure. Opinions on how good this deck is in standard right now? is the polarized nature a problem
The cards i need for it are DK Valeera, Greenskin, Kingsbane, and an epic or two.
Even Paladin. This is a deck i've considered crafting several times but always choose something else. It seems like a fun deck. Pretty straightforward and tempo based. Was performing really well competitively before Rumble came out, not sure how it's place in the meta has changed. I haven't played it so not a lot to say about it.
The cards I need are Glass Knight, Tarim, Val'anyr(seems to be optional but optimal) and an epic or two.
Several misc legendaries. The third option is perhaps the most sensible, but the least sexy. Just filling some blank spots to strengthen my collection already. I'd probably craft Taldaram for cubelock, Oondasta for DR hunter, and Zentimo/Loti for general shaman/druid stuff. I don't actually play a lot of DR hunter or cubelock but I do like the decks and maybe I'd play more cubelock if I had Taldaram. I have this thing where I just won't play netdecks unless I have the best version.
All in all i'm mostly happy with my shaman, priest, hunter collection so I was wanting to play some new classes. I don't really care about rotation in a few months, 3 seasons is a good chunk of time and worth the investment if i like the deck. I'm mostly interested in having a fun time climbing to legend this month. I have a lot of meta decks but the only one i really *love* is shudderwock shaman but I was looking for something a touch stronger.
TLDR; looking for some anecdotal and opinions on the options in terms of competitiveness and fun.
I would not craft anything from the Ungoro, Frozen Throne and Kobold expansion unless you are truly interested and vested to play the deck to feel good, for e.g. Kingsbane for Kingsbane Rogue. (Or you have a certain unexplained love towards the card for lore or attachment reasons because you played Warcraft.) I did that previous cycle and regretted spending the dust for only 4 months of playtime. Crafting something from this cycle (Witchwood, Boomsday, Rumble) and the card could still be there for a year and 4 months. Imagine if you crafted Kingsbane a year ago, you still have a year and 4 months to play the card and you wouldn't have this dilemma now because you already have the card.
While it is impossible for Kingsbane rogue, there are plenty of replacement for the missing cards for an Even Paladin deck. You can sub in more tech options like Black Knight, Mojomaster Zihi, experimenting with Spirit of the Tiger, or second copies of Argent Commander, Avenging Wrath, Windfury Harpy etc. Or take your paladin collection in a different direction and play a Healadain or Control Paladin instead.
Appreciate the responses so far, but as I said, i don't care about the rotation. I just started playing before WW and i bought bundles for the last three expansions and put most of my gold towards them so my collection is pretty strong for those. I want something new to play now and every deck right now has cards from last years soon to rotate sets.
I'm leaning towards kingsbane but i'm just curious how some people whove laddered with it feel about it.
I'm playing it at rank 4 and it's a blast. Definitely not an easy time winning as everyone thinks. I got sick of waiting to craft a deck and went with kingsbane a few days ago.
I don't regret it at all. Then again I'm also playing pirate tempo and odd/big spell mage as backups
Kingsbane is both competitive and fun to play. But I wouldn't dump that much dust in to crafting cards specific for one deck, no matter how fun this one is. Eventually you will get bored of it.
Instead, try to craft an overall good legendaries/epics that are used in variety of decks - like Oondasta or some other neutral classic legendaries. Don't mind rotation that much, 4 months is a plenty of time to have fun with your "new" cards :).
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I'm leaning towards kingsbane but i'm just curious how some people whove laddered with it feel about it.
Don't think you need greenskin for it and Kingsbane will probably remain a good deck in wild. I have greenskin and i'm not even playing it in my Kingsbane deck right now.
Think its a safe craft if you like the idea. I use mine to do the "play x amount rogue cards" quests and sometimes play it just for playing something different for a game or 2 and enjoy it.
I wouldn't put such a huge chunk of dust into a single deck, especially when it's about to leave Standard in four months. Why would you want to devote yourself to playing mainly that specific type of deck? I get that you like to play counters (e.g. your Shudderwock) to Control so what about e.g. Mecha'thun Druid? Yeah, it's going to lose a bunch of good cards as well but it's quite affordable and can easily be mistaken for other Druid archetypes. Also, given that you don't play Wild I think it would be wise to spend the dust on cards which see play for some time. Considering that you play mostly Shaman, Priest and Hunter - do you already own Subject 9? It will be playable even post-rotation, since Secret Hunter is an evergreen and, being a neutral it's quite unique. Just a suggestion, since I don't know about your classic and other classes collection.
Thanks for the responses. Seems pretty unanimous for kingsbane rogue and that's kind of what i'm leaning towards. Anyone really liking even paladin in this meta though?
I wouldn't put such a huge chunk of dust into a single deck, especially when it's about to leave Standard in four months. Why would you want to devote yourself to playing mainly that specific type of deck? I get that you like to play counters (e.g. your Shudderwock) to Control so what about e.g. Mecha'thun Druid? Yeah, it's going to lose a bunch of good cards as well but it's quite affordable and can easily be mistaken for other Druid archetypes. Also, given that you don't play Wild I think it would be wise to spend the dust on cards which see play for some time. Considering that you play mostly Shaman, Priest and Hunter - do you already own Subject 9? It will be playable even post-rotation, since Secret Hunter is an evergreen and, being a neutral it's quite unique. Just a suggestion, since I don't know about your classic and other classes collection.
I have mechathun druid and subject 9 hunter. Both cool decks.
My collection from from the expansions this year is pretty good. I have nearly every legendary from boomsday and everything good from WW.
I either sit on this dust for 4 months, which sounds super boring, or i craft some cards from last year. Rumble is the only thing I dont have a ton of legendaries from but I got a lot of the ones I wanted from packs and i'm still opening packs from Rumble.
I’m liking the performance of Kingsbane and even pally this expansion. With the combination of these 2 made 5 to legend and 2000 to 450 so far. Even pally seems really strong, Val’anyr is excessive imo. New 4 mana shrines really help.
I love playing Even Paladin and I recommend it. You don't need Val'anyr. Glass Knight will survive rotation although the deck will look different for sure. I play Mojomaster Zihi in mine so I would craft it. Tarim is a great card too especially if you don't mind it rotating out. It can beat just about anything and it's a blast. What ever you do, don't make Kingsbane Rogue. It's cancer. Stay away lol.
I love playing Even Paladin and I recommend it. You don't need Val'anyr. Glass Knight will survive rotation although the deck will look different for sure. I play Mojomaster Zihi in mine so I would craft it. Tarim is a great card too especially if you don't mind it rotating out. It can beat just about anything and it's a blast. What ever you do, don't make Kingsbane Rogue. It's cancer. Stay away lol.
Hmm, I already have Zihi and not having to craft valanyr would be nice. Would only need two legends for it in that case. Decisions, decisions.
I do like the even decks in general like shaman and warlock.
You have Lich King and Crystalsmith Kangor right? You'll need those for the deck.
Yeah I have everything except Glass Knight and Tarim and like an epic or two. Also dont have valanyr but im not sure how essential it is. I do have Tirion and some lists seem to run him.
You have Lich King and Crystalsmith Kangor right? You'll need those for the deck.
Yeah I have everything except Glass Knight and Tarim and like an epic or two. Also dont have valanyr but im not sure how essential it is. I do have Tirion and some lists seem to run him.
Only if you wanna run Chain Gang. I personally don't but some do. I've tried it but I prefer extra slots for Spirit of the Tiger.
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So I have a good chunk of dust from Rumble left over and i'm having trouble deciding how to spend it. I'm thinking of 3 different options
Kingsbane rogue. The deck always interested me but it didn't seem quite good enough for me to craft all the things for it. It seems so much better now so this is the last chance to pull the trigger on it. I generally like anti control decks and i played a few games with the borrow decks feature and it feels fun. I don't play wild because i only have standard cards but I was thinking about starting to play wild after rotation since i have a good standard collection and i know kingsbane is good there. My only concern is the meta might shape in a way that phases it out, but of course there is no way to know this for sure. Opinions on how good this deck is in standard right now? is the polarized nature a problem
The cards i need for it are DK Valeera, Greenskin, Kingsbane, and an epic or two.
Even Paladin. This is a deck i've considered crafting several times but always choose something else. It seems like a fun deck. Pretty straightforward and tempo based. Was performing really well competitively before Rumble came out, not sure how it's place in the meta has changed. I haven't played it so not a lot to say about it.
The cards I need are Glass Knight, Tarim, Val'anyr(seems to be optional but optimal) and an epic or two.
Several misc legendaries. The third option is perhaps the most sensible, but the least sexy. Just filling some blank spots to strengthen my collection already. I'd probably craft Taldaram for cubelock, Oondasta for DR hunter, and Zentimo/Loti for general shaman/druid stuff. I don't actually play a lot of DR hunter or cubelock but I do like the decks and maybe I'd play more cubelock if I had Taldaram. I have this thing where I just won't play netdecks unless I have the best version.
All in all i'm mostly happy with my shaman, priest, hunter collection so I was wanting to play some new classes. I don't really care about rotation in a few months, 3 seasons is a good chunk of time and worth the investment if i like the deck. I'm mostly interested in having a fun time climbing to legend this month. I have a lot of meta decks but the only one i really *love* is shudderwock shaman but I was looking for something a touch stronger.
TLDR; looking for some anecdotal and opinions on the options in terms of competitiveness and fun.
Golden Millhouse Manastorm and you're mostly done
I would not craft anything from the Ungoro, Frozen Throne and Kobold expansion unless you are truly interested and vested to play the deck to feel good, for e.g. Kingsbane for Kingsbane Rogue. (Or you have a certain unexplained love towards the card for lore or attachment reasons because you played Warcraft.) I did that previous cycle and regretted spending the dust for only 4 months of playtime. Crafting something from this cycle (Witchwood, Boomsday, Rumble) and the card could still be there for a year and 4 months. Imagine if you crafted Kingsbane a year ago, you still have a year and 4 months to play the card and you wouldn't have this dilemma now because you already have the card.
While it is impossible for Kingsbane rogue, there are plenty of replacement for the missing cards for an Even Paladin deck. You can sub in more tech options like Black Knight, Mojomaster Zihi, experimenting with Spirit of the Tiger, or second copies of Argent Commander, Avenging Wrath, Windfury Harpy etc. Or take your paladin collection in a different direction and play a Healadain or Control Paladin instead.
Appreciate the responses so far, but as I said, i don't care about the rotation. I just started playing before WW and i bought bundles for the last three expansions and put most of my gold towards them so my collection is pretty strong for those. I want something new to play now and every deck right now has cards from last years soon to rotate sets.
I'm leaning towards kingsbane but i'm just curious how some people whove laddered with it feel about it.
I'm playing it at rank 4 and it's a blast. Definitely not an easy time winning as everyone thinks. I got sick of waiting to craft a deck and went with kingsbane a few days ago.
I don't regret it at all. Then again I'm also playing pirate tempo and odd/big spell mage as backups
Kingsbane is both competitive and fun to play. But I wouldn't dump that much dust in to crafting cards specific for one deck, no matter how fun this one is. Eventually you will get bored of it.
Instead, try to craft an overall good legendaries/epics that are used in variety of decks - like Oondasta or some other neutral classic legendaries. Don't mind rotation that much, 4 months is a plenty of time to have fun with your "new" cards :).
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i vote kingsbane
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Don't think you need greenskin for it and Kingsbane will probably remain a good deck in wild.
I have greenskin and i'm not even playing it in my Kingsbane deck right now.
Think its a safe craft if you like the idea.
I use mine to do the "play x amount rogue cards" quests and sometimes play it just for playing something different for a game or 2 and enjoy it.
Craft Kingsbane it’s fun and makes your opponent hate you
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I wouldn't put such a huge chunk of dust into a single deck, especially when it's about to leave Standard in four months. Why would you want to devote yourself to playing mainly that specific type of deck? I get that you like to play counters (e.g. your Shudderwock) to Control so what about e.g. Mecha'thun Druid? Yeah, it's going to lose a bunch of good cards as well but it's quite affordable and can easily be mistaken for other Druid archetypes. Also, given that you don't play Wild I think it would be wise to spend the dust on cards which see play for some time. Considering that you play mostly Shaman, Priest and Hunter - do you already own Subject 9? It will be playable even post-rotation, since Secret Hunter is an evergreen and, being a neutral it's quite unique. Just a suggestion, since I don't know about your classic and other classes collection.
Thanks for the responses. Seems pretty unanimous for kingsbane rogue and that's kind of what i'm leaning towards. Anyone really liking even paladin in this meta though?
I have mechathun druid and subject 9 hunter. Both cool decks.
My collection from from the expansions this year is pretty good. I have nearly every legendary from boomsday and everything good from WW.
I either sit on this dust for 4 months, which sounds super boring, or i craft some cards from last year. Rumble is the only thing I dont have a ton of legendaries from but I got a lot of the ones I wanted from packs and i'm still opening packs from Rumble.
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I’m liking the performance of Kingsbane and even pally this expansion. With the combination of these 2 made 5 to legend and 2000 to 450 so far. Even pally seems really strong, Val’anyr is excessive imo. New 4 mana shrines really help.
I love playing Even Paladin and I recommend it. You don't need Val'anyr. Glass Knight will survive rotation although the deck will look different for sure. I play Mojomaster Zihi in mine so I would craft it. Tarim is a great card too especially if you don't mind it rotating out. It can beat just about anything and it's a blast. What ever you do, don't make Kingsbane Rogue. It's cancer. Stay away lol.
Hmm, I already have Zihi and not having to craft valanyr would be nice. Would only need two legends for it in that case. Decisions, decisions.
I do like the even decks in general like shaman and warlock.
You have Lich King and Crystalsmith Kangor right? You'll need those for the deck.
Yeah I have everything except Glass Knight and Tarim and like an epic or two. Also dont have valanyr but im not sure how essential it is. I do have Tirion and some lists seem to run him.
Only if you wanna run Chain Gang. I personally don't but some do. I've tried it but I prefer extra slots for Spirit of the Tiger.